Discussion on some some less explored scenes

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Since its the weekend and we have no episodes and generally we are velle 😆,lets discuss some scenes which were not properly explored in Ishqbaaaz.

During the time of separation of Shivaay and Annika, shivaay lost the zeal to live and was not himself.He was in trauma and was listless.He was not himself.The only thing that elicited a response from him were his brothers' love--at that time Om was also in coma;a double whack for Shivaay !

There was this scene where we see that Shivaay has a glance of Annika after three torturous months. Shivaay goes to the chawl where Annika was staying with her friend Chanda. In front of her house,the great Shivaay Singh Oberoi gets mugged by some goons.The surprising thing was he did not resist them,in fact welcomed the physical beating without any resistance !
WHY ???




I feel that the pain in his heart was unbearable and he welcomed the physical pain in his body hoping that this would mask the terrible yearning in his heart and mind.

What do you think ?



Please discuss (discuss being the operative word) if you are like minded. Bashers and haters please stay away in your own zone.Only peaceful discussions are welcome.If you do not like the post,stay away,don't hijack it and make it a battleground.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very interesting post Rimi👏Well thought!
Actually from the seperation IB has become bhagambaaaz😆
N dare you think we are vella,I sincerely think we are investing time in something we all love so dearly

Coming to the point,

Grief is like living two lives
One where you " pretend" everything is alright
& other is where your heart silently screams in pain

It was a beautiful scene,she looking at her moon trying to find her sun whom she herself withdrew from to let him glow while her sun was finding solace in looking at his moon that had faded away. But when he looked he felt what had happened.At that moment it was not important as to who did what but the fact that they werent together.
Then came a fleeting thought, " Why did I let her go?" coz when u r in love u tend to blame urself for the pain. Therefore he wanted that pain to tell his mind that what he did was wrong!
Once he took the physical pain,his heart said,

"Shivaay, you cannot be healed while you hold on to the pain, you must let it go, so that we are free to let you embrace Anika again"😳

Do I make sense?
Haha sitting under the moonlight guess I m poetic today😃

Edited by Thwisha617 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Res
Hmm nice post rimi 😳 this is one topic where we can go on and on and on 🥱

P.S some ranting/cribbing

1. I wanted Shivaay to know about bakshish thing which Tia said to Anika. He still doesn't know why Anika agreed to Daksh proposal. Anika put her character at stake to save SSO but it was insulted with bakshish. This could have brought up sometime later in the story.

2. Tia getting herself kidnapped again dint come to SSO notice. 🥱

3. Nayantara character is still not closed. Shivaay doesn't know it was his mother who brought her . Anika went through so much because of her again not explored or closed on this

4. Mahi Kamini Shakti Pinky angle is full of loop holes. These are the characters which completely changed Shivika life

5. Shivika separation or in other words forced Shivika separation. Both were broken. Yet nothing explored properly. Shivaay don't have any idea what Anika went through also the other way. Rather we got ragini track.

6. Who was stopping Anika from getting jobs. Why was SSO behind that chawl. Did he ever come to know it was actually Samar her boss whom she met in restaurant. Why are all these left with loop holes

7. That scene where he is looking at her and she looking at moon. It was so beautiful but it lacked continuity 😭 I was so hoping Anika will get a glance of this but sigh no it dint 😭

P.S : is my reply actually relevant? 😕 was this post to list down the less explored scenes or explain on the less explored scenes? 😲

Edited by freebird_91 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hriju321

During the time of separation of Shivaay and Annika, shivaay lost the zeal to live and was not himself.He was in trauma and was listless.He was not himself.The only thing that elicited a response from him were his brothers' love--at that time Om was also in coma;a double whack for Shivaay !

There was this scene where we see that Shivaay has a glance of Annika after three torturous months. Shivaay goes to the chawl where Annika was staying with her friend Chanda. In front of her house,the great Shivaay Singh Oberoi gets mugged by some goons.The surprising thing was he did not resist them,in fact welcomed the physical beating without any resistance !
WHY ???

I feel that the pain in his heart was unbearable and he welcomed the physical pain in his body hoping that this would mask the terrible yearning in his heart and mind.

What do you think ?

OMG Sangy did you just read my mind??????? This scene is my trigger!! I consider it the most under rated scene of theirs.

I will have to disagree on the bold part though. I think this was a regular thing for Shivaay. I believe he kept a watch over her throughout those 3 months because the thought of him to just leave Anika without making sure she is okay/safe is so unbearable for me. (HS ji if you are seeing this somehow then please make them talk about their 3 months separation 😳) Coming to the scene I love how its shot and what it symbolizes. Separated from each other, both of them are lost in a sea of despair and want to look for hope. She looks at Moon while Shivaay looks at her, because for him she is his moon ❤️



The scene that followed it was equally heartbreaking. Shivaay was on a path of self destruction because he had literally lost his jeene ki vajah. He couldn't live without her but he also couldn't forgive her. Just like you described, the pain in his heart became too much and he thought maybe the physical pain would over power it but ofcourse it didnt work 😭 Kudos to HS for such deep writing 👏

Thanks Sangy for this brilliant discussion post and will surely come up with more such under rated scenes later :)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Thwisha617

Very interesting post Rimi👏Well thought!

Actually from the seperation IB has become bhagambaaaz😆
N dare you think we are vella,I sincerely think we are investing time in something we all love so dearly

Coming to the point,

Grief is like living two lives
One where you " pretend" everything is alright
& other is where your heart silently screams in pain

It was a beautiful scene,she looking at her moon trying to find her sun whom she herself withdrew from to let him glow while her sun was finding solace in looking at his moon that had faded away. But when he looked he felt what had happened.At that moment it was not important as to who did what but the fact that they werent together.
Then came a fleeting thought, " Why did I let her go?" coz when u r in love u tend to blame urself for the pain. Therefore he wanted that pain to tell his mind that what he did was wrong!
Once he took the physical pain,his heart said,

"Shivaay, you cannot be healed while you hold on to the pain, you must let it go, so that we are free to let you embrace Anika again"😳

Do I make sense?
Haha sitting under the moonlight guess I m poetic today😃


Twisha you write so well dear. You make full sense and I loved what you said.😊
@ red bold : 👏⭐️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi friends... geny sent for me...😆
I remember this scene, was very painful to see the sheer misery in their faces, wanting to reach out so much and yet unable to take the first steps towards reconciliation.

He was at Ragini's house that day, and he felt her.. like a sudden deep staggering breath he felt her proximity. He didn't see her but that distinct sense her presence invoked in him was there. Her little moon charm reached his hand just to tell him that their paths did cross.

He sensed her, but why didn't She? Why was he the only one plagued with this sense of acuity? It angered him, and he threw the moon charm away. Angry that he couldn't put her away as easily as she did him...

But he couldn't let it go. He found himself outside her chawl, he knew exactly where she was all the time. He arrived angrily, wanting to take over the place she lived at. But all the rage flew when she appeared at her window.

The look in his eyes when he saw her. 😭 a mix of deep love and the sheer amount he missed her. She was all he could see, but her eyes were fixed in melancholy at the moon. She didn't sense him there, she didn't turn to him.

Angrily he decided to hurt himself. She usually sensed when he was in trouble. He paid goons to beat him up and she did sense his pain but she didn't come to see.

Was it all a lie? Did she not sense me at all? How could I have been so wrong about her? Turning from the empty window sill, he left...

She watched the moon, and he had seen his.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShivaayAnika

OMG Sangy did you just read my mind??????? This scene is my trigger!! I consider it the most under rated scene of theirs.

I will have to disagree on the bold part though. I think this was a regular thing for Shivaay. I believe he kept a watch over her throughout those 3 months because the thought of him to just leave Anika without making sure she is okay/safe is so unbearable for me. (HS ji if you are seeing this somehow then please make them talk about their 3 months separation 😳) Coming to the scene I love how its shot and what it symbolizes. Separated from each other, both of them are lost in a sea of despair and want to look for hope. She looks at Moon while Shivaay looks at her, because for him she is his moon ❤️



The scene that followed it was equally heartbreaking. Shivaay was on a path of self destruction because he had literally lost his jeene ki vajah. He couldn't live without her but he also couldn't forgive her. Just like you described, the pain in his heart became too much and he thought maybe the physical pain would over power it but ofcourse it didnt work 😭 Kudos to HS for such deep writing 👏

Thanks Sangy for this brilliant discussion post and will surely come up with more such under rated scenes later :)


Vrinda 🤗

Self destruction is the word I was looking for !
It's rarely do we see such nuanced scenes in Indian soaps. Thanks Harneet Singh 👏

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7

Hi friends... geny sent for me...😆

I remember this scene, was very painful to see the sheer misery in their faces, wanting to reach out so much and yet unable to take the first steps towards reconciliation.

He was at Ragini's house that day, and he felt her.. like a sudden deep staggering breath he felt her proximity. He didn't see her but that distinct sense her presence invoked in him was there. Her little moon charm reached his hand just to tell him that their paths did cross.

He sensed her, but why didn't She? Why was he the only one plagued with this sense of acuity? It angered him, and he threw the moon charm away. Angry that he couldn't put her away as easily as she did him...

But he couldn't let it go. He found himself outside her chawl, he knew exactly where she was all the time. He arrived angrily, wanting to take over the place she lived at. But all the rage flew when she appeared at her window.

The look in his eyes when he saw her. 😭 a mix of deep love and the sheer amount he missed her. She was all he could see, but her eyes were fixed in melancholy at the moon. She didn't sense him there, she didn't turn to him.

Angrily he decided to hurt himself. She usually sensed when he was in trouble. He paid goons to beat him up and she did sense his pain but she didn't come to see.

Was it all a lie? Did she not sense me at all? How could I have been so wrong about her? Turning from the empty window sill, he left...

She watched the moon, and he had seen his.


Brilliant Anisa!
You opened a new way of thinking. Shivaay let the goons hurt him because he knew Annika always sensed when he was hurt and in danger ! God! How unique is Ishqbaaz !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: freebird_91

Res

Hmm nice post rimi 😳 this is one topic where we can go on and on and on 🥱

P.S some ranting/cribbing

1. I wanted Shivaay to know about bakshish thing which Tia said to Anika. He still doesn't know why Anika agreed to Daksh proposal. Anika put her character at stake to save SSO but it was insulted with bakshish. This could have brought up sometime later in the story.

2. Tia getting herself kidnapped again dint come to SSO notice. 🥱

3. Nayantara character is still not closed. Shivaay doesn't know it was his mother who brought her . Anika went through so much because of her again not explored or closed on this

4. Mahi Kamini Shakti Pinky angle is full of loop holes. These are the characters which completely changed Shivika life

5. Shivika separation or in other words forced Shivika separation. Both were broken. Yet nothing explored properly. Shivaay don't have any idea what Anika went through also the other way. Rather we got ragini track.

6. Who was stopping Anika from getting jobs. Why was SSO behind that chawl. Did he ever come to know it was actually Samar her boss whom she met in restaurant. Why are all these left with loop holes

7. That scene where he is looking at her and she looking at moon. It was so beautiful but it lacked continuity 😭 I was so hoping Anika will get a glance of this but sigh no it dint 😭

P.S : is my reply actually relevant? 😕 was this post to list down the less explored scenes or explain on the less explored scenes? 😲


Ujju 😆

I get you. We are in the same boat;I too crib on some things left halfway in Ishqbaaaz. We will discuss those too baby 🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lovely post! Separation and angst well shown!
@freebird - I have the same set of questions plus many more loose ends! It is just not enough if Shivaay knows about Pinky's hand in the kidnap drama! (Another major loophole there was once the real Shivaay was in OM, why didn't Pinky warn Kamini and gang?)

Also ShivayAnika - if indeed he was watching over her chawl for all those 3 months, he shd know she was struggling for money! (Not that her dresses implied that she was in want of cash!)

But the pain he felt and wanted to feel more was - he thinking she had destroyed something beautiful between them! Think - he the great SSO had finally met his match and was willing to give himself to her- in effect - surrender himself - leaving aside his NKK and all his tadi - and she goes and attacks his one Achilles heel - one vulnerable spot - the birth secret of his dear brother Om.
Even if she had said something abt his parents, he could have pardoned her but she did the unthinkable! Made his hard kept secret public for all the world to see!

So, he just couldnt forgive himself for still wishing if only she hadn't! That plus his heart still yearning for her was what made him invite the goons to hit him so that physical pain could maybe dull his mental ache!

Another thing that always is contradictory with how CVs show his character is they show him with much less common sense than what he is capable of at other times! Before Annika's penultimate showdown, there were man clues leading to it. Her supposedly fake fight over the choice of jewelry Pinky gave! Her video taping him for memory sake, her appearing disturbed - all these pkus her uncharacteristic display of anger should have rung enough warning bells in him!

In fact, the minute she started her well orchestrated drama, he should have taken her aside to their room,
. Instead they washed all their dirty linen in public or he let her!

Also, what was his act of vandalizing that chawl board with samarjeets name? So many loopholes!

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