Today shivika scene with dialogue analysis/discussion

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Posted: 8 years ago
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First of all I am not favouring CV's 😆 or shivaay-annika. I am a shivika fan. I liked today episode so I just wanted to post my analysis.
I will go with dialogues.

So before I start, we know in yesterday episode annika have tried quite number of tricks to get a reaction from Shivaay but he acted totally normal/unaffected that it did not make any difference to him whether annika is present there or not.

In three months so many things can change and as we know/can see that Shivaay is acting indifferent may be to see if annika gets affected and same way annika is trying to get the same. Yes they were close before but when you meet after three months (that too the way they separated ) so you will think that the other person will have the same feelings still. You will actually take some test of that person or in a way try to find that if it is same as before.

Before leaving annika knew that she has place in shivaay's heart but she broke that (we are not going into that reason or discussion) so now she can not say that if Shivaay hates her/loves her/is angry or whatever until & unless he reacts.

So let's start from today - I didn;t take full dialogues
Blue: Shivaay dialogue
Green: Annika dialogue
black: analysis

kuch log hmari jindgi me aate jarur hai lekin rhne layak nhi hote, actually its really good and I think you should move on, waise bhi aajkal move karna kitna aasan hai its very easy (with smile)

Shivaay said these dialogues in very casual way and even he has a litlle smile. Yes he is trying to act indifferent here and showing that he doesn't care and that's what annika took from this scene that he is totally unaffected.

Then Shivaay leaves with ragini by putting hand on her normally.

iska matlab kahin na kahin shivaay apni jindgi me aage bad chuke hai sayad isliye to unhe koi farak hi nhi pad rha
bahut badi galti kar di maine jo pinky aunty ki bat manke mai shivaay se dur chali gayi, ab mai chah kar bhi shivaay aur apne bich ki duriya khatam nhi kar skti

she is clearly disappointed in herself and accepted that what she did was wrong and she wants to fix that mistake.

Then her monologue in room when she talks to herself.

"mere liye shivaay ki khushi sbse jada important hai lekin sayad unki khushi kisi aur ke sath hai
this is completely true that for his happiness she can do anything. Here note the word "SAYAD". she is uncertain that if he will be happy now with her in his life. From his reaction in the hall, she saw him unaffected so she has doubts that may be now his happiness is not with her and he has really moved on as she said in hall. It does not mean that she took Shivaay's love for granted but in three months so many things can change.
She still had hope deep down and it proved in her next dialogue.

maine OmRU & Dadi se vaada kiya tha ke mai Shivaay ki tadi wapis leke ayungi lekin sayad mai apna vaada pura hi nhi kar payungi kyunki ab mere hone ya na hone se shivaay ko koi farak nhi padta"
he is showing his indifference so she is not sure that if she can bring back his tadi
mai haar nhi manna chahti lekin jeet ki koi umeed bhi to nhi hai mere pas
she said that she doesn't want to lose but she doesn't have any hope or any string to hold on at this point.
bas ek ishara mil jaye mujhe ke shivaay ko abhi bhi hmare rishte ki parwah hai, abhi bhi unke dil me mere liye jagah hai, abhi bhi unhe farak padta hai
She wanted to get some clue/some reaction that the feelings/ehsas/farak they feel for other is still there so that she can fight because if it is not there then there is no point in fighting a lost battle

and as soon as she got that clue, you can the happiness in her/her confidence is back and now she will fight for shivaay come what may.

She has unactually underestimated Shivaay's feeling for her. She knew that he feels for her but from her point his NKK truth could have done more damage to him than her living which was her flaw. She had to understand that why is she not enough for Shivaay. She had to understand that you have to fight for your relationships and should not give up until last drop of hope is there.

PS: I didn't find any of annika/shivaay out of character.

PPS: I have strong feeling that SSO is playing big game and trapping anni in her own farak game.

PPPS: I know most of us are very upset with CV's & me too for the way they used characters for their own good of trp. when they want make annika mahaan, when they want make sso brainless(lol although it is annika most of the time) but they used sso also for their trp. But still I am loving it from 2-3 episodes & looking at the segment I am looking forward to the track

Your views are welcom :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lovely post. I don't think shivaay is playing game here to trap annika. Shivaay used to smart and would dig the truth but after annika was shot he lost his brain and donated to pinky. Only pinky has brains these days.
Coming back to shivaay I think he is just cold because he doesn't want to feel anything anymore he doesn't want to look in the past and live like old shivaay as it is painful and he doesn't want to move on either. If shivaay had 0.01% of brain he wouldn't propose nagini be it as a reaction of jealousy or whatever.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: drama_queen123

Lovely post. I don't think shivaay is playing game here to trap annika. Shivaay used to smart and would dig the truth but after annika was shot he lost his brain and donated to pinky. Only pinky has brains these days.

Coming back to shivaay I think he is just cold because he doesn't want to feel anything anymore he doesn't want to look in the past and live like old shivaay as it is painful and he doesn't want to move on either. If shivaay had 0.01% of brain he wouldn't propose nagini be it as a reaction of jealousy or whatever.


lol from the new promo, Obros are trapping their respective partners in jaal so I am hoping against the hope
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_nonu


lol from the new promo, Obros are trapping their respective partners in jaal so I am hoping against the hope


@ red -is there a new promo??
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Originally posted by: angel_nonu


lol from the new promo, Obros are trapping their respective partners in jaal so I am hoping against the hope


Promo is always different to the episode and this promo is just to make audience aware about the merger that's it. The whole throwing net thing doesn't really mean that shivaay is trying to trp annika. It's just going to be comedy and drag basically gulneet is giving lollipop scene and not exposing pinky to move the story forward
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am enjoying Anika's monologue because we finally are seeing her reevaluating her actions and their impact I also like the fact that she didn't immediately assume that shivaay is still in love with her or welcome her back because she have realized that she was wrong to give up then but if shivaay still have feeling for her she is ready to fight it out this time.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: laola

I am enjoying Anika's monologue because we finally are seeing her reevaluating her actions and their impact I also like the fact that she didn't immediately assume that shivaay is still in love with her or welcome her back because she have realized that she was wrong to give up then but if shivaay still have feeling for her she is ready to fight it out this time.




so true. and I am too happy that she didn't assume that if he had feelings for her then he will still have after how she broke his heart. But she accepted her mistake then she thought that may be his happiness is something else now as he acted fully indifferent but still she has hope and was trying to get a hint/clue bcoz she didn't want to lose and once she got that, her happiness knew no bound. It was like she got whole world and now she is all ready to fight for it. However SSO will act indifferent or will announce his eng but she will fight for them both. Now then both will hurt each other, try to make other to accept the farak and will come closer.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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sorry for this but @angel - dont agree with you
anika has been completely butchered whether we accept or not. she is such level of an idiot that instead of going and saying sorry to the guy whose heart she broke - she is doing another round of tandav on it and on top of it has issues with him having a friend - hadd ho gayi hai


anika is insecure is the easiest pass to give CVs - she had so many oppurtunities to feel insecure but chose the time when he was really laying his heart out for her. and she still cant understand why he is so indifferent to her? bhai aise pyaar se toh pyaar na ho toh acha hai - i am not seeing much of a difference between her and ragini right now 😆 - pun intended - he is a toy for her too

PS: these random nonsense comic scenes are not going to help leverage their position for lack of script - just saying
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NYCForever

sorry for this but @angel - dont agree with you

anika has been completely butchered whether we accept or not. she is such level of an idiot that instead of going and saying sorry to the guy whose heart she broke - she is doing another round of tandav on it and on top of it has issues with him having a friend - hadd ho gayi hai


anika is insecure is the easiest pass to give CVs - she had so many oppurtunities to feel insecure but chose the time when he was really laying his heart out for her. and she still cant understand why he is so indifferent to her? bhai aise pyaar se toh pyaar na ho toh acha hai - i am not seeing much of a difference between her and ragini right now 😆 - pun intended - he is a toy for her too

PS: these random nonsense comic scenes are not going to help leverage their position for lack of script - just saying


😊 you don't have to. We are here to share our opinion and respect others 😊

@Bold: I agree that they have used annika infact I would say Shivaay as well as per there accordance. They made SSO total brainless in this track and anni full mahaan.
But I think telling truth at this stage when he is already broken is not a good idea. He didn't give any reaction or any clue that he is looking for her sorry or her explanation.
Issue with having a friend ?? I didn't get this? From episode it didn't look like annika have issue with rags being Shivaay friend. She doesn't have any idea of rags being his friend. She just know rags from what she read in newspaper.

@Italic: I will start from toy part. I think from my view it is completely unfair to even compare annika with rags. Shivaay has done the same things during Om truth blackmailing and annika was very much in love at that time. Why we are feeling more here bcoz we saw that he was going to marry her. Here only annika insecurities havn't played the role but SSO NKK have also played the role. yes he made clear to her that her NKK doesn't matter to him but it was about HIM NKK not her. Here She failed to understand that his love for her is more than his NKK. in fact OmRu also failed to guess that.
After 3 months now when she saw that what he has become she realised her mistake and trying to rectify it. But she can not assume that he still have feelings for her. Yes she understood that he is being indifferent to her bcoz she broke his heart. She accepted this in episodes that shivaay have made walls around him and how will she broke them.

See telling truth would mean that Pinky will be exposed and we know that he will totally disown Pinky.
If she tells truth then she will have that guilt that bcoz of her mother-son duo got ruined. Pinky jaisi bhi ho but usne Shivaay ko paala hai and Shivaay loves her. For girl like annika who didn't had any motherly love all her life, she can not take that guilt. Yes if pinky blackmails now then she should say that ok go and tell because it is Pinky-shakti truth so they should be the one breaking the truth to him.
She is trying to get shivaay back which Shivaay can clearly see(If CV's are not planning to make him more dumb) so he will know that what she did there must have been some reason and frankly I want him to dig and find the truth by himself rather than anyone else telling him.
I don't see that Shivaay is even ready/or in a state to listen to any explanation. Annika can see he is already living like dead man so firstly she is trying to get him out from that shell bcoz telling truth can do more damage then after that he might ask her the reason & will have see what she does then.

If she tells him the truth then don't you think he will still be hurt? Ok he will know that annika loves him and is with him but still Pinky is his mother whom he had loved all his life. Indifferent behaviour with pinky doesn't mean Shivaay doesn't love her and won't be hurt after knowing her truth. So rather than giving him more pain she is trying to get his anger/his tadi/his old self.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Truly a brilliant and a much needed positive post 👏
I also agree that they are very much in character. They will obviously make mistakes and if they dont and everything is perfect then there cant be any drama. Hence I feel we should give this track a chance because all of this will lead to the much awaited love confession of Shivika and also Anika being no1 in Shivaay's life.
Coming to the scenes, Anika's insecurity is very much valid. She is a person who thought love was never possible for her and when it happened, she fell for a guy whose life revolved around the principles of NKK, none of which Anika had. Now even though Shivaay accepted Anika without NKK, he still didnt put her above it or atleast didnt show it. His own NKK still mattered to him very much. He couldnt believe that his mother could stoop so low and chose to ignore all the signs. So yes this whole arc will also break his NKK illusion.
And yes it does seem like SSO is upto something or knows something. Not too sure about this because my predictions keep on changing with every episode 😆

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