This is not old SSO

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Posted: 8 years ago
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He's not the old SSO because the old SSO had humanity. All the Shivkara arguments in the beginning proved that while he might not show it he empathized with others. For him, the world wasn't just black and white it had shades of grey too. He was reserved not emotionally detached or insensitive. He had a difficulty expressing himself and didn't broadcast his feelings or his emotions to everyone, but he had them. He rarely shows his emotions, but he was clearly touched by her gesture when she baked him the cake. He was grief-stricken when Om took drugs again. He was heartbroken when she got engaged to Daksh. He was distraught when she was missing when he woke up after being shot. Or the business award scene where Om, Rudra, and Anika literally had to coax him into being happy. He didn't see the big deal in his success but them being proud of him made him happy, not the actual award. He was blushing when she was picking out a suit for him to wear. His brothers and Anika make him happy. He is not himself anymore because Pinky quite literally stole his half of his happiness.

With Tia, it was indifference, but he cared for her on a human level when she was kidnapped and hurt. Like Anika, he was worried about her baby even though she was lying and trying to trap him. Her child was innocent and didn't deserve to be punished for her sins. Maybe this was Anika rubbing off on him or the truth he discovered about Om's illegitimacy softening up his reaction to pregnant Tia. Now there is a severe coldness mixed with his indifference.

This Shivaay feels nothing. Other than his brothers it doesn't matter what happens and to who.

The scandalous news had no effect him. Her image can be marred and her engagement possibly called off, but his response "oh well relationships are meant to broken she'll live". Severe indifference. Then comes the phone call about her safety as risk and his response""I will send doctor and inform the police". Absolute coldness.

I'm conflicted because I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I laughed at his doctor and police comment. He never was the type to go crusading for strangers, but he didn't even flinch at the thought of a woman being physically abused. Friends? People treat strangers better than this 😆

His reaction was cold and unfeeling. He didn't care to help, but he'll do the bare minimal. When the phone call was cut its normal to imagine the worst, but he didn't even care to follow-up on the situation and he was over it...just like that. He was okay with going on with his day like the call never happened. She could have been in the news for being murdered and he wouldn't even blink. That's a big leap from the man that carried that same injured stranger into his home 3 months ago. I wouldn't be shocked if his dismissal of Ragini is because of Pinky. In the past, he resented her for her treatment of Omru so he ignored her. Now he resents her kindness to a stranger given the way she treated Anika in the past. He subconsciously shuts down and detaches from anything related to Pinky.

There was never a relationship between them, but he at least tried to mask his indifference by limiting their interactions. He was embarrassed by Pinky and at times rude but never openly cruel. Being married Anika made him value her more. He cared when she was sad or upset, but now he doesn't even bother to mask his dislike.

The way he threw the medicine box out of her hand...

The way he completely cuts her off when she speaks to him...

There was a time her fake tears influenced him, but now her real tears and sadness have no effect on him. It shows on his face, in his body language, and his tone when speaks to her. He doesn't want to talk to her, be around, or even look at her. Her presence makes him unhappy and he doesn't even bother hiding it. He is unapologetically apathetic. If he is like this now what happens to them all after he finds out the truth.

This isn't what I expected to happen, but I'm intrigued by this new development. I'm curious to see where all this is going.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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What a detailed and brilliant analysis. I think most of us thought that post separation Shivaay would go back to being the old SSO-not believing in love/NKK factor but the writers really surprised me with this one. He has become so lost without Anika in his life. Like Tej said he has stopped living. Never imagined one day I will see Billu ji becoming a Devdas in love-risking his life by doing bike stunts, paying money to goons to beat him, silently stalking Anika from afar etc Really loving the way they are showing this side of Shivaay.
I am just very annoyed with their pace. Like why are they dragging so much. Hoping from tomorrow onwards we see an advancement in the story.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yellomellow

There was never a relationship between them, but he at least tried to mask his indifference by limiting their interactions. He was embarrassed by Pinky and at times rude but never openly cruel. Being married Anika made him value her more. He cared when she was sad or upset, but now he doesn't even bother to mask his dislike.

The way he threw the medicine box out of her hand...

The way he completely cuts her off when she speaks to him...

There was a time her fake tears influenced him, but now her real tears and sadness have no effect on him. It shows on his face, in his body language, and his tone when speaks to her. He doesn't want to talk to her, be around, or even look at her. Her presence makes him unhappy and he doesn't even bother hiding it. He is unapologetically apathetic. If he is like this now what happens to them all after he finds out the truth.

This isn't what I expected to happen, but I'm intrigued by this new development. I'm curious to see where all this is going.



I think losing Anika broke something inside him that can't be fixed without her...yes, he still reserves that special corner of affection for his brothers and the rest of his family but beyond that, he is supremely apathetic. In some ways, I think Anika took his humanity with her when she left...since she was the one that made him expressive over time in terms of expressing his emotions, his feelings, losing her killed that inside him...One gets the sense that without her, nothing else matters in the world to him...his family has always been a seperate entity for him for whom he'll keep on functioning, keep on protecting them etc. etc...but Anika gave his life purpose beyond his familial obligations...and without her, he sees no other purpose now, finds everything futile...in some ways he's given up on life itself...that is what Tej and Pinky keep pointing out as well.


This development is the only saving grace of this badly executed separation track...otherwise the rest of it is very contrived😆...Shivaay's apathy towards everyone, in particular Pinky provides for some entertainment.


I guess they are going for some kind of karmic irony vis a vis him being so indifferent to Pinky...after all she did to supposedly get her Shivaay back from Anika, now she's left with nothing...a Shivaay who is even more indifferent to her than he was before Anika entered his life...because his compassion, kindness, his humanity all went away with Anika...Anika was the instrument that helped facilitate all those emotions...now she's gone, so are the emotions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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That is beautifully written 👏 Always love your insight about Shivaay and ShivKara! 😆
The only thing I'm semi happy about in this entire track is SSO and his reaction post the separation till now.. 😆

Anyways, let's see aage kya hota hai! 😊

EDIT: Your post just made me re-realize why I like Shivaay the character.. 😊 He is real..He is human.. He has flaws(like all of us) but he had good qualities as well.. He is like us.. fighting within himself.. making mistakes.. learning.. evolving.. 😊
Edited by blackorwhite - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Totally agree with you.
This is not the SSO we know.He was arrogant ,stubborn...but when his family was concerned he was. a caring person.A true family man..
When Anika entered his life he turned to her Shivaay more who valued every ones emotions.Her tears always pierced his heart...
He was falling in love with her...He was wishing to begin a new life with her erasing the bitter old memories...it was a growth in his character.
But now the slope of graph is decreasing and it is negative now...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful analysis. He has indeed changed. 💔
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yellomellow

This Shivaay feels nothing. Other than his brothers it doesn't matter what happens and to who.

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I wouldn't be shocked if his dismissal of Ragini is because of Pinky. In the past, he resented her for her treatment of Omru so he ignored her. Now he resents her kindness to a stranger given the way she treated Anika in the past. He subconsciously shuts down and detaches from anything related to Pinky.

.. He is unapologetically apathetic.

If he is like this now what happens to them all after he finds out the truth.

Lovely writeup!

@bold I like that they have Shivaay as a lost soul after Annika's departure - he did try to act normal for like a day, didn't he? and got nowhere! And isn't this what Annika asked Pinky when she was leaving? "In spite of losing Shivaay, I will have his thoughts, memories and his 'ehsaas' with me always - what will you have?" Pinky's got just a shell of her son with the rest of the family barely tolerating her.

@italics This is where the drag fest starts to take a toll.. we get it that the new bhai-behen in town are here and will have some part to play.. but the writers need to give an indication (and soon) as to what the direction is.. weeks of random mish-mash of scenes is not going to work.

Edited by sky-if - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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m also happy that the makers didnt show that sso forgot all the changes anika made within him...he isnt behaving like nothing has changed but he is behaving like yes things have changed and becoz of that i dont want to remember u(anika)...
Im glad they didnt destroy his growth which he gained till now...anika's impact on him hasnt been demolished and thats really good...and when he get to know the truth he wont wait a moment to make anika his...becoz the only thing that is stopping him to bring anika back is his family ...his idiology of being the adarsh beta and bhai.

A song to state his condition -
Lo man liya humne hai pyaar nahi tumko
Tum yaad nahi humko hum yaad nahi tumko
Lo man liya dekha hai nahi tere kandhe ka woh til
Lo man liya toota hi nahi tere hatho se mera dil <3

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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is brilliantly analyzed! I am so glad they are exploring different shades to Shivaay's character! Was not expecting that the makers would consider this aspect but really happy about this development.They did not make him revert back to his old form. Anika brought changes to his life and now with her absence, its becoming hard for him to cope up.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Brilliant Analysis of SSO character!

When Anika went out of Shivaay's life, she also took away the reason for Shivaay to live with her. Now Shivaay is living for the sake of it. Other than Anika, after Lapse he is only shown caring for OmRu. That's it!
He is completely heart broken and shattered from inside after their last fight. I think he is still looking for the reason why she left him but on the same time he is also attempting to forget her which he obviously can't.

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