Eunuch's Words - Possible Implications.

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Khidki

@Khidki

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

Its to Shivaay the words were directed to according to my POV.

He is the eldest legitimate son I believe..!

Jo hoga WO dikhega nahi

Jo dikhega WO hoga nahi

Hoga aur nahi bhi..!

N also the word Chakravyu was used...!

Hence...

Its related to 3 major things..!

1-Saumya is not what she seems.!

As per spoilers..she is negative.!

Shivaay already brought her not realising the truth.

Jo ho raha hai he can't c..!

2-Its Ranveer.

Yet again, it's Shivaay who believed what he saw.

He saw her taking care of Prinku. But Ranveer was doing the opposite.

Hence ussne Jo dehka wo Hua nahi..!

3- probably Kamini saying She is Shivaay's mom.

I m confused here. Don't know how it wipp go. But maybe it will be related to Kamini.

I think its the third line here , hai bhi aur nahi bhi..! But I still believe he is Pinky's Son.

The last part was spoken about Shivaay.

Here was the six.

Shivaay is considered to be destroyer of the bad. But also he was the one to take on the poison to save the world.

So Shivaay will be angered by what he sees, and maybe to save family, he will take in poison as in suffer..for sake of family and yet come out victorious in the end.

Kyunki, even bad happens for good.

Shivaay ko koi nahi hara sakta...!

Shakti is always with him..!

On a Reality Check, in My View...

Its all about the mind.

And if u believe in such superstitions , you in a way give your energies to it..!

You don't believe it, it never happens..!

It all the game of mind..!

Its Purely My View.

Yours might differ..!

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Hi !! IF swallowed my comment so i have been sulking a little...😆

I feel all up in the fog about the eunuch's premonition. The first suspicion was if the eunuch themselves were planted to scare them, but then why go after Pinky with scare tactics?

Shakti's behaviour since Kameeni's arrival: He has been the typical guy awkward about meeting his ex-gf from his colourful youth. But that's all it is, awkward. Not fearful, or with baggage or residual guilt. If it is true that Kameeni is Shivaay's real mother, then Shakti would know, and would NOT want KK to be ANYWHERE near Shivaay and his family, let alone marry his niece.

Unless, there was a mishap with Pinky's child, when he/she was born, and Shakti + Dadi had replaced him/her with another baby... Then Shakti/Dadi/ Pinky will know...

Do you remember in the early episodes, there was a time when Dadi watched Omkara and Rudra playing like little boys, and wondered if they would fall apart if they knew the secret ... then she decided not to spoil the young ones and let them grow with their innocence.

I wonder what that was about...now..😕.. COuld it be TEJ that was illegitimate? Child of Bua Ma, perhaps, whom Dadi took in as her own? Which is why Omkara is her favourite? Hmmm...

The premonition about Shivaay is foggy and vague.

Going through it problem solving style:

Shivaay's problems:

1. Prinku's pregnancy, and his urgency to settle that issue from getting out. He is handing over the house's gem over to monsters, and he's not realizing it. If only Om had told Shivaay about the whole hit and run fiasco, and how it relates to ACP.

2. The Hit and Run accusation. I hope it's just an accusation to keep Prinku quiet. If Annika finds out the truth, I fear to see how she will handle being blackmailed also...

3. Saumya- Rudra relationship.

Tej must be furious that even here, Shivaay is dictating what his youngest son does in his marriage, after his elder son took his mistress right from under his nose. Tej has every reason to want to hurt Shivaay, but we need more clues about this. His warning words from the eunuch was Gussa ( Anger). And Jhanvi's was Gubrahat (Fear).

Saumya herself is a conflicted soul. The way she was with the family, was not fake. During the drunken wedding, she looked mildly drunk, but more sad and upset. She looked like she was being forced to do this by someone. Perhaps someone has got her brother/mother kidnapped and is extorting her as well? The conflict in her face is unmistakable.

4. Illegitimacy Claim

I have a gut feeling he isn't at all. I still think it is Tej. Because he is the fiercest about inheritance, and he has worked hard to build up the empire from the late Mr. Oberoi. He thinks he is the rightful heir, and wants his kids to inherit.

If he were adopted, but was the one who worked the company up to its heights, i can understand his rage. His fractious behaviour belies an insecurity that doesn't match his bravado..

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: annikaa
Its to Shivaay the words were directed to according to my POV.
He is the eldest legitimate son I believe..!

Jo hoga WO dikhega nahi
Jo dikhega WO hoga nahi
Hoga aur nahi bhi..!

N also the word Chakravyu was used...! Loosely translated " LABYRINTH"
Shivvay has to work his way out of this labyrinth using the 'signs' he sees as the Kinner said

Hence...

Its related to 3 major things..!

1-Saumya is not what she seems.!
As per spoilers..she is negative.!
Shivaay already brought her not realising the truth.
Jo ho raha hai he can't c..!
Agree with this point. She will not be who she seems so that fits here.
Shivvay brought her back to OM, hence the responsibility and Onus is on him to now make sure that the Oberoi's are safe because of his decision.

2-Its Ranveer.
Yet again, it's Shivaay who believed what he saw.
He saw her taking care of Prinku. But Ranveer was doing the opposite.
Hence ussne Jo dehka wo Hua nahi..!
You are right again.
He has seen Ranveer only show his good side to him and we all know what his true intentions are. Also, the pregnancy will end up being fake so that applies here.

3- probably Kamini saying She is Shivaay's mom.
I m confused here. Don't know how it wipp go. But maybe it will be related to Kamini.
I think its the third line here , hai bhi aur nahi bhi..! But I still believe he is Pinky's Son.
Here I feel he is an Oberoi and Pinky's son but might have been through a surrogate mother. Hoga aur nahi bhi. Just a wild guess that someone else carried the embryo is that was even possible during those days.

The last part was spoken about Shivaay.
Here was the six.
Shivaay is considered to be destroyer of the bad. But also he was the one to take on the poison to save the world.

So Shivaay will be angered by what he sees, and maybe to save family, he will take in poison as in suffer..for sake of family and yet come out victorious in the end.

Kyunki, even bad happens for good.
Shivaay ko koi nahi hara sakta...!
Shakti is always with him..!

On a Reality Check, in My View...
Its all about the mind.
And if u believe in such superstitions , you in a way give your energies to it..!
You don't believe it, it never happens..!
It all the game of mind..!
True I agree that these things play on the mind but the 'Guru' looked psychic in my opinion the way he was feeling the aura of the house and people. One thing I found very strange was that he did not move towards Annika or even acknowledge her presence. That to me was a little weird but either it was a blopper or was left out on purpose.

BTW I believe in the higher Psychic ability that some people have

Its Purely My View.
Yours might differ..!

😊

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LTLFan

@LTLFan

Trailblazer

Posted: 8 years ago

I think some words of eunuch was edited out. Jhanvi said bhagwaan khoon ke aansoo royega. But eunuch did not say it na? Also she said shivaay hai na tera naam! For what she said it i did not get.

Ofcourse all related to lies around him. Ek bhi pakad nahi payega? Saumya negative nikli toh i don't think he can find it. Itni cute little girl ke baare me aisa kaise soch sakta hai when he believes ACP even though he made prinku pregnant before marriage acc to him still he thought like pinky jawani ki galati probably.😆

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Khidki

@Khidki

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: asya34

Surrogate Mother Tabhi Hoti Thii?🤔

I won't call it psychic ability rather a stronger intuition or 6th sense.. I believe in that as well its under the subject of mind power...

There is much our brain can do...still its under research and I thoroughly believe its true...6th sense,telepathy..etc.

N everyone has the ability..u have to just explore it to make it stronger.. !😊

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dattu21

@dattu21

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

Nice Post!

About Acp Randhawa, I think it will create conflict between Shivika because Anika may come to know about prinku & Acp blackmailing + fake pregnancy, As usual, Shivaay won't believe her!

Regarding Kaamini as SSO mother, I don't think it will happen!yeah, of course, a fake illegitimate issue will come but Kamini as Shivaay mother, I don't think!

For Soumya, If She is -ve, It will be very interesting to see how Rudra & Shivika will handle it!

I also think (as Anisha said in her post) that Shivaay might lose himself & Anika will come out as his shield!

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tanvismile

@tanvismile

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 8 years ago

I don't think tez has anything to do with illegitimate. It's going to be within omkara, shivay and rudra because if tez becomes illegitimate the entire linage becomes outsiders. That's omkara and rudra. So that's isn't possible.

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AparnaChinnu

@AparnaChinnu

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: annikaa
Its to Shivaay the words were directed to according to my POV.
He is the eldest legitimate son I believe..!

Jo hoga WO dikhega nahi
Jo dikhega WO hoga nahi
Hoga aur nahi bhi..!

N also the word Chakravyu was used...!
Hence...

Its related to 3 major things..!

1-Saumya is not what she seems.!
As per spoilers..she is negative.!
Shivaay already brought her not realising the truth.
Jo ho raha hai he can't c..!

2-Its Ranveer.
Yet again, it's Shivaay who believed what he saw.
He saw her taking care of Prinku. But Ranveer was doing the opposite.
Hence ussne Jo dehka wo Hua nahi..!

3- probably Kamini saying She is Shivaay's mom.
I m confused here. Don't know how it wipp go. But maybe it will be related to Kamini.
I think its the third line here , hai bhi aur nahi bhi..! But I still believe he is Pinky's Son.

The last part was spoken about Shivaay.
Here was the six.
Shivaay is considered to be destroyer of the bad. But also he was the one to take on the poison to save the world.

So Shivaay will be angered by what he sees, and maybe to save family, he will take in poison as in suffer..for sake of family and yet come out victorious in the end.

Kyunki, even bad happens for good.
Shivaay ko koi nahi hara sakta...!
Shakti is always with him..!

On a Reality Check, in My View...
Its all about the mind.
And if u believe in such superstitions , you in a way give your energies to it..!
You don't believe it, it never happens..!
It all the game of mind..!

Its Purely My View.
Yours might differ..!

😊

Shivaay's problem is he always believe wat he saw...

He simply believes it without a recheck...and he wnt listen to wat his heart says...

Ya saumya and ranveer is connected to wat the prediction is but I don't think it will be the real problem because the prediction is more related to shivaay...if it's ranveer it is more affecting Prinku and if it is saumya she only landed..

She is negative but it will be revealed bit by bit because her track will be big and it wnt cause much in 10 days...so ranveer and saumya is not the real predictions...they are using this to confuse us and they will show something unexpected...

But kamini...I really doubt...from her interview it is clear that her target is shivaay...so wat ever going to happen it will be related to kamini and it will surely break shivaay...

Like u said shivaay is the destroyer but he also consumed poison to save the world...but at the right time parvathi saved shiva by grabing his throat in order to prevent the swallowing of poison...like that anika will protect shivaay

No force can harm shiva when shakti is with him

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meetaa_13

@meetaa_13

Explorer

Posted: 8 years ago

These hints are pointing towards Soumya only

Wo jayegi par jayegi nahi

There was a spoiler where they mentioned abt Soumya disappearing during Prinku's Sangeet..i m sure she is here to take revenge..but why is Shivay the target I can't figure out

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_Tabs_

@Tabsfully

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#10

Ooh Hey, I made a post on the same...

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4818397

here's the summary:

Next 10 days are going to be harsh for the elder son of this family. Where is he?

Whatever you see is different from the one playing in background. Your eyes will be at failure to witness the reality...

^^ this is the paraphrased/gist of what the Kinner said to Shivaye.

So far, SSO is considered the "eldest son" BUT what if he is illegitimate as the spoilers are suggesting..

" harsh for the elder son of this family"

wouldn't that mean whatever the kinner said, was for the actual eldest Oberoi son, which would be Omkara?

Or despite the fact that Shivaye is illegitimate, but to the family he is still the oldest son of the family...which would make the Shivaye whom the kinner directed his/her words toward...which would mean the illegitimacy track real. SSO is actually illegitimate.

Another version to this scenario would be that Shivaye is convinced he is illegitimate ( there are reports and maybe another video / another dai maa's confession, etc) and so he leaves the Oberoi mansion but that is where he is wrong...

." Your eyes will be at failure to witness the reality..." He is fooled into thinking that he is illegitimate but he is not...and then he'll find out later that he is legitimate. The only purpose of this will be like the fake memory loss track, it'll make Shivaye break his NKK mindset.

Option :1: it is directed toward Omkara

Option 1.5: Omkara will find out he is illegitmate? 😆

Option 2: it is directed toward Shivaye... he will find out he is illegitimate

Option 3: Shivaye will think he is illegitimate but he isn't..