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Posted: 8 years ago
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The only issue I am seeing is with Tej, till recently he wasn't an evil character per se...he even liked the Shivaye was like him in the business sense and was proud of him then why would he be jealous of him?

seems like the CVs got bored and chose Tej randomly
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Tabs_

The only issue I am seeing is with Tej, till recently he wasn't an evil character per se...he even liked the Shivaye was like him in the business sense and was proud of him then why would he be jealous of him?

seems like the CVs got bored and chose Tej randomly

Tez cannot be illegitimate because that will affect omkara and rudra so tez isn't illegitimate.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: annikaa

Its to Shivaay the words were directed to according to my POV.

He is the eldest legitimate son I believe..!

Jo hoga WO dikhega nahi
Jo dikhega WO hoga nahi
Hoga aur nahi bhi..!

N also the word Chakravyu was used...!
Hence...

Its related to 3 major things..!

1-Saumya is not what she seems.!
As per spoilers..she is negative.!
Shivaay already brought her not realising the truth.
Jo ho raha hai he can't c..!

Saumya turning grey may not be an issue of great significance..going by the past episodes she might have turned grey to teach Rudr a lesson... I do not think she is related to Kapoors or Ashok.. If she turns out to be one of them ...then Gul Khan and her writers better come up with a valid explanation


2-Its Ranveer.
Yet again, it's Shivaay who believed what he saw.
He saw her taking care of Prinku. But Ranveer was doing the opposite.
Hence ussne Jo dehka wo Hua nahi..!

I think it is related to Raveer Kameeni Daksh trio...Ranveer has some earned brownies points by taking a stand against Daksh - this could be first step to lure Shivaay into the Charkavyuh. Shivaay has let his guard down for the time being thinking that Daksh is in jail..
Shivaay is drawn further deep into circle of deceit by the fake romance witnessed between Ranveer and Priyanka...

3- probably Kamini saying She is Shivaay's mom.
I m confused here. Don't know how it wipp go. But maybe it will be related to Kamini.
I think its the third line here , hai bhi aur nahi bhi..! But I still believe he is Pinky's Son.

I dont think she will say that she is his mom...but it might be implied by someone whom Shivaay trust implicitly ( who that is, is a question mark) and based on that bit of info he might not even bother to verify the facts... It will be Annika who would take up that responsibility find out the Shivaay's paternity.

The last part was spoken about Shivaay.
Here was the six.
Shivaay is considered to be destroyer of the bad. But also he was the one to take on the poison to save the world.

So Shivaay will be angered by what he sees, and maybe to save family, he will take in poison as in suffer..for sake of family and yet come out victorious in the end.

Kyunki, even bad happens for good.
Shivaay ko koi nahi hara sakta...!
Shakti is always with him..!

The eunuch says there will be enough signs as hints to choose the right path...So let us wait and watch ...AS we go along we might get some idea where all this is leading to ...

maybe the whole thing is a setup..even the Eunuch and his forewarning...( this was highlighted by AnnzSageflower in her post)

On a Reality Check, in My View...
Its all about the mind.
And if u believe in such superstitions , you in a way give your energies to it..!
You don't believe it, it never happens..!
It all the game of mind..!


Its Purely My View.
Yours might differ..!

😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Tabs_

The only issue I am seeing is with Tej, till recently he wasn't an evil character per se...he even liked the Shivaye was like him in the business sense and was proud of him then why would he be jealous of him?

seems like the CVs got bored and chose Tej randomly




Tej was jealous of shivaay in a normal way. He even express it infront of everyone. He did nothing wrong against shivaay or no planning plotting. All decisions are taken by shivaay even of tej's kids and tej has no say in anything even though he is supposedly the patriarch of the family, senior male member. Obviously he will be irked. Nothing wrong, just weak character as he did not earn the trust of family members like shivaay.


But now after DBO he is going to be made more negative as the actor himself told😕. They need not even make him negative or black, they can just turn situation around and make tej take advantage of it. Lets see what CVs do.




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7

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Hi !! IF swallowed my comment so i have been sulking a little...😆

I feel all up in the fog about the eunuch's premonition. The first suspicion was if the eunuch themselves were planted to scare them, but then why go after Pinky with scare tactics?

Shakti's behaviour since Kameeni's arrival: He has been the typical guy awkward about meeting his ex-gf from his colourful youth. But that's all it is, awkward. Not fearful, or with baggage or residual guilt. If it is true that Kameeni is Shivaay's real mother, then Shakti would know, and would NOT want KK to be ANYWHERE near Shivaay and his family, let alone marry his niece.

Unless, there was a mishap with Pinky's child, when he/she was born, and Shakti + Dadi had replaced him/her with another baby... Then Shakti/Dadi/ Pinky will know...

Do you remember in the early episodes, there was a time when Dadi watched Omkara and Rudra playing like little boys, and wondered if they would fall apart if they knew the secret ... then she decided not to spoil the young ones and let them grow with their innocence.

I wonder what that was about...now..😕.. COuld it be TEJ that was illegitimate? Child of Bua Ma, perhaps, whom Dadi took in as her own? Which is why Omkara is her favourite? Hmmm...

That could be really a good one given the fact Tej is nothing like his mother or brother...

The premonition about Shivaay is foggy and vague.

Going through it problem solving style:

Shivaay's problems:

1. Prinku's pregnancy, and his urgency to settle that issue from getting out. He is handing over the house's gem over to monsters, and he's not realizing it. If only Om had told Shivaay about the whole hit and run fiasco, and how it relates to ACP.

2. The Hit and Run accusation. I hope it's just an accusation to keep Prinku quiet. If Annika finds out the truth, I fear to see how she will handle being blackmailed also...

Annika being blackmailed - unlikely ..She knows Shivaay wouldn't be at peace if something of that kind of an accident happens..So she would outrightly reject it....

3. Saumya- Rudra relationship.
Tej must be furious that even here, Shivaay is dictating what his youngest son does in his marriage, after his elder son took his mistress right from under his nose. Tej has every reason to want to hurt Shivaay, but we need more clues about this. His warning words from the eunuch was Gussa ( Anger). And Jhanvi's was Gubrahat (Fear).

Saumya herself is a conflicted soul. The way she was with the family, was not fake. During the drunken wedding, she looked mildly drunk, but more sad and upset. She looked like she was being forced to do this by someone. Perhaps someone has got her brother/mother kidnapped and is extorting her as well? The conflict in her face is unmistakable.

Romi Saumya connection ???? They are childhood friends...if you look at it from that angle she could be a Kapoor ...but other factors ...she looked genuine during her stay at OM, her advice and concern during a family fight etc ... point that she is not...


4. Illegitimacy Claim
I have a gut feeling he isn't at all. I still think it is Tej. Because he is the fiercest about inheritance, and he has worked hard to build up the empire from the late Mr. Oberoi. He thinks he is the rightful heir, and wants his kids to inherit.

If he were adopted, but was the one who worked the company up to its heights, i can understand his rage. His fractious behaviour belies an insecurity that doesn't match his bravado..

Tej is most flip -flopped character in this show. His insecurities stems from his inability to earn respect or love his sons...His sons do not share his passion for the business or anything that is of importance to him...I guess he feels he feels jealous of the bond between the younger obros as he doesnt share the same with his brother Sakthi ...he sees Sakthi as a pacifist, shunning his responsibility to run the business...( business empire of this kind cannot be made without some ruthlessness, certain things being shoved under the carpet...some blood on hand)Even Dadi says that Tej's style of running the business was very different from his father ...He rightly thinks his son should take over the reins of Oberois.

As usual enjoyed reading your analysis...😊😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi !! IF swallowed my comment so i have been sulking a little...😆

Oh I can so realte to that..!
I always paste it on clipboard before posting now..u never know😆

I feel all up in the fog about the eunuch's premonition. The first suspicion was if the eunuch themselves were planted to scare them, but then why go after Pinky with scare tactics?

Shakti's behaviour since Kameeni's arrival: He has been the typical guy awkward about meeting his ex-gf from his colourful youth. But that's all it is, awkward. Not fearful, or with baggage or residual guilt. If it is true that Kameeni is Shivaay's real mother, then Shakti would know, and would NOT want KK to be ANYWHERE near Shivaay and his family, let alone marry his niece.

I totally agree..!

Unless, there was a mishap with Pinky's child, when he/she was born, and Shakti + Dadi had replaced him/her with another baby... Then Shakti/Dadi/ Pinky will know...
I don't think so,
I remember Daadi saying Billu has got eyes like his Daada...! Enough to tell...he is an Oberoi..!🤔

Do you remember in the early episodes, there was a time when Dadi watched Omkara and Rudra playing like little boys, and wondered if they would fall apart if they knew the secret ... then she decided not to spoil the young ones and let them grow with their innocence.

seems like I have to watch it again...
Maybe Rudra is Shivaay's own brother and not Omkara's.
Or maybe Tej n Shakti had a third brother who died with his wife...when all the kids were young!???
The typical family secrets shown in serials😆

I wonder what that was about...now..😕.. COuld it be TEJ that was illegitimate? Child of Bua Ma, perhaps, whom Dadi took in as her own? Which is why Omkara is her favourite? Hmmm...

Oh yes. might be Quiet possible.
Some spoilers say that, Bua Maa has a sad past that will turn her negative, maybe his son and DIL were the ones to die...but I m quite sure Omkara is Jhanvi's son..for some reason..!


The premonition about Shivaay is foggy and vague.

Going through it problem solving style:

Shivaay's problems:

1. Prinku's pregnancy, and his urgency to settle that issue from getting out. He is handing over the house's gem over to monsters, and he's not realizing it. If only Om had told Shivaay about the whole hit and run fiasco, and how it relates to ACP.

Yes he should have, he is busy now..!😆

2. The Hit and Run accusation. I hope it's just an accusation to keep Prinku quiet. If Annika finds out the truth, I fear to see how she will handle being blackmailed also...

She isn't going to be scared I feel, she will say "Main jaanti hoon Shivaay aisa nahi kar sakta... 😆

3. Saumya- Rudra relationship.
Tej must be furious that even here, Shivaay is dictating what his youngest son does in his marriage, after his elder son took his mistress right from under his nose. Tej has every reason to want to hurt Shivaay, but we need more clues about this. His warning words from the eunuch was Gussa ( Anger). And Jhanvi's was Gubrahat (Fear).

Tej is angry...
Agree

Jhanvi is more feared due to her breaking marriage I guess

Saumya herself is a conflicted soul. The way she was with the family, was not fake. During the drunken wedding, she looked mildly drunk, but more sad and upset. She looked like she was being forced to do this by someone. Perhaps someone has got her brother/mother kidnapped and is extorting her as well? The conflict in her face is unmistakable.

Yes.

4. Illegitimacy Claim
I have a gut feeling he isn't at all. I still think it is Tej. Because he is the fiercest about inheritance, and he has worked hard to build up the empire from the late Mr. Oberoi. He thinks he is the rightful heir, and wants his kids to inherit.

If he were adopted, but was the one who worked the company up to its heights, i can understand his rage. His fractious behaviour belies an insecurity that doesn't match his bravado..






This illegitimate thing is getting us all in a whirlpool of weird theories...

If only all of this turns out to be, as fake as her ML...

Kyunki..

We r all thinking like..
Jo dikh raha hai WO Hai nahi...

What if Jo Dikh raha hai wahi hai..!😆

Hum Sab ko CVs papu bana rahe hain..!🤣
Edited by annikaa - 8 years ago

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