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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: xaviara

I really believe that even though the whole thing was planned by ShivOmRuAni, the emotions and angst Shivika went through during the whole plan was very much real.



Even though they were supposed to be pretending, am sure most of the time Shivika knew that the things being discussed and actions taken were not pretend, thus the recent angst between them. Anika knows Shivaay very well, so she knows she cannot afford to fall in love with Shivaay, knowing he will never fall for someone like her. I think she sincerely believes that whatever Shivaay feels for her is because of his responsibility towards her, since he did force her to get married, to save his family.

And that is why I feel Anika will want to leave after the exposure happens. Tia's truth will be out, so media will now sympathize with the Oberoi's about why Shivaay had to lie about being married to Tia, while he was married to Anika. There is no reason for her to stay back in OM, especially knowing the way Pinky feels about her. Even after Tia's exposure I don't see Pinky's opinion about Anika changing. She might be great full to Anika for helping out Shivaay and helping their family once again, but she won't accept Anika as her DIL. She would still want a DIL who is from a very well off and influential family, How Shivaay will stop her, that remains to be seen. But I highly doubt that the pain, anger and helplessness reflecting in Shivika's eyes and their words is pretense.





Love your comment Xavi .

@bold

There have been subtle scenes where Shivaay is seen reacting to his mother's continual hatred of Annika. He should realize that she is the biggest cause pushing Annika out the door.

I'd love to see him manage his mom with tact about Annika. I love that about Shivaay.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: xaviara

Also, remember the scene where Anika leaves OM after Shivaay is shot and he goes after her to bring her back? We never got to know how Shivaay convinced her to come back, since that bit for never showed. We all thought that it was just bad editing, but what if Shivaay convinced her to come back, so she can help in exposing Tia, and if she wants to can leave afterwards? He is not blind, he can see how much Pinky's taunts and behavior is affecting Anika, so much so that she is willing to give up on their relationship, whatever it is. I think that day Shivaay had realized that his handling of his mom has not been as effective as he thought. We can see that in the scene after he brings her back, when he says 'Do you see me crying, even though I'm in the worst position possible, because I have to choose between two most important women in his life, his mom and his 'zimmedari' I think from that day onward Shivaay knew he was on borrowed time where Anika was concerned, because he knows she would want to leave once Tia is exposed.


I was just thinking about this too😆 ...

It'd be really awesome if they show what exactly happened when he brought her back that day. The drama with NBs has been relentless since then.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: kulsum_5

Agree.. who cares about tia exposure.. I m really looking forward to shivika story after this drama.. I guess shivay was really angry when anika told shivay to marry tia.. I guess he never expected.. Frm anika that she will ever include this twist.. And thank you scene make sense.. And shivay describing anikas look without looking at her.. And anika's reaction when she heard this concvo.. Drama karte karte.. Such me they realized their love.. I really wish anika to leave OM.. agar shivay cant see her as mother of his children then whats the use of staying in OM.. i guess that scnene was not random.. Even if tia is exposed then pinky will still refuse to accept her as DIL.. NKK.. welcome back.. the real shivika story begins.. Now.. Excited.. 😳


OMG ...

when he went back to get Annika after discharge from hospital, when she said No, she won't come back with him, do you remember what he said?

"I need you"

We automatically thought it was a romantic phrase. What if it wasn't, but it was actually a request for help to expose Tia and Mrs K.

And that's why she willingly came back, faced Pinky's wrath despite promising to leave.

😲
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Gosh thank you

You have opened my mind. Till now i was only thinking of Anika's feeling her sadness her hurt and her pain. Oh i thought of Shivaye's love bur it never occured to me that he could be unsure

I mean the man is wall right so maybe i forgot that he can have his own share of pain and hurt

I love him but didn't give him another thought

You have made me realise that yes Anika does not give him much of a reactiom. She bottles up her feelings and he wants a reaction. He needs it and thats why all the games to bring out a reaction in the guise of memory loss plan

I understand it so much better now


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7



OMG ...

when he went back to get Annika after discharge from hospital, when she said No, she won't come back with him, do you remember what he said?

"I need you"

We automatically thought it was a romantic phrase. What if it wasn't, but it was actually a request for help to expose Tia and Mrs K.

And that's why she willingly came back, faced Pinky's wrath despite promising to leave.

😲




And this is exactly what I've been thinking since this whole memory loss drama started. I am still not sure about the Faraq game though...just like many of us. I want to believe that Faraq game brought out their hidden emotions which they couldn't express in their "real" life & hence used this memory loss track for them to give some stage but then again knowing how much Shivaay & Anika both can control their emotions I am not sure they'll just ignore this whole thing as part of memory loss drama or will decide to address this. I am more skeptical after ShivKara conversation in DBO.
Let's hope the writers pleasantly surprise us (highly unlikely though)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Anisa.
Emotions have been on quite a journey when the OLVs were updated one after the other. What a ride! 😆

Coming to your post, I agree Shivaay is more physically expressive in his love. He does these little things that provide a signal to Anika that billu does feel something for her. And they do acknowledge this, too. Many times, they've talked about this "thing" between them that refuses to go away.

However, despite that feeling that was acknowledged so long ago, Anika hesitates to show her love. Because even though they admit about the existence of this attraction, billu has insulted her despite that so many times that the fear of rejection is ingrained in her brain. How many times has he had a perfectly lovely moment with her and majorly rejected her the next morning? Shivaay does have an inkling of where Anika's feeling are inclined, as per the hospital track.

So this is why, I feel, Shivaay will have to be the one to take the first step. He must tell Anika he's willing to spend the rest of his life with her and give her the status she deserves. Even if not in so many words. Just the actions would do. Because right now, she's in limbo about where they stand. She wouldn't even mind it if he doesn't outright tell her he loves her. Just the surety of having him by her side will be enough for her, for the time being.

And this is where NKK comes in. It's the only thing holding billu back. He's looks ready to commit to Anika for a lifetime, at this moment. His prejudices are the only thing standing in the way. That, along with, a small, simple signal from Anika.

Coming to the OLVs. I'm happy to know Tia's leaving. However, the writing is so muddled and "sir se utarana" type ke I'm not fully able to digest it. I mean, are you trying to tell us ke everything was fake? Even Rohit? 🥺.

What about the "did you like it?" That cannot have been fake - not because I'm some hormonal romantic - but because it looked too darn genuine for it to be fake.

I dunno but the way they've executed this is so sloppy and lazy, that I'm talking this with a pinch of salt. May be it's because I'm professionally a writer. I can't digest laziness in consistency, bad coherence and messy plot. Esp unfaithfulness towards character. That's a HUGE TURN OFF for me. So while I'll take it, I'm not fully happy about it.


The way he keeps trying to get a reaction out of Annika, tells me of an urgency stemming from frustration. Tia is about to be exposed and Annika was planning to leave after.

THIS. Despite the fact that this was all a game, I think somewhere along the way, the line between pretence and genuine feelings became muddled for both of them. That's why Shivaay did so much chance pe dance. Otherwise, the NBs knew ShivIka weren't getting along, there was no reason to force her to sleep on his bed or for Anika to make him jealous.

One user pointed out that CVs want us to to look at this situation in a Big Brother like way. Since ShivIka were being watched 24/7, they can't always be pretending. Aslee personality bahir a hee jaatee hai 😆. I think I'll embrace that explanation.

So I believe that under the guise of the ML, Shivaay and Anika did express their real feelings and because they were protected by this bahana of the fake ML, they were even freerer because neither one could question the other, afterwards. They would just chalk it down to the plan. "Main toh sirf Tia ka such samney laaney ke liye ker raha tha/rahee thee"

How smart are our billu and billi 😆

ML might have been a plan, but Annika probably scared/ confused him with the unpredictability of what exactly she was doing.

Or Perhaps he stumbled upon her ruse when Rudra returned, because he was right there at Gulmohar Rd, and didn't take any action.

He didn't actually. He's said in the OLVs that everything - right from the fight that led to Anika falling - was engineered by them. Sorry, if I've spoilt it for you. Lol.


One thing though, Annika was staring at the statue intently, methinks Khanna told her something.

Whether he told her or not, I do agree he knew something. Khanna was about to reveal something important to Shivaay. I felt that was so because they showed him to be quite consistent in his insistence.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm REALLY sorry that's a huge-ass post 😳
Promise will keep it shorter the next time.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Risha--

I'm REALLY sorry that's a huge-ass post 😳

Promise will keep it shorter the next time.

Write away... no quota here😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


Love your comment Xavi .

@bold

There have been subtle scenes where Shivaay is seen reacting to his mother's continual hatred of Annika. He should realize that she is the biggest cause pushing Annika out the door.

I'd love to see him manage his mom with tact about Annika. I love that about Shivaay.



@blue : Thanks 😳 I am a huge fan of your posts, so its a pleasure having a discussion with you.😊

@bold: I love this about Shivaay too, because its unusual these days to see on Indian TV a hubby standing up for his wife in front of his mother !! This is one of his qualities I love about him is that he stands up for what is right.

But as you mentioned Shivaay doesn't realize that his defending Anika or standing up for her is actually making Pinky hate her even more. Once in a scene Shivaay had said that his mom loves money more then his son. Even if I do agree with what he said to some extent, I also feel that Pinky has a lot of complexes about herself, maybe that is why she has been adamant about having a DIL like Tia, who is smart, beautiful, educated and cultured. Pinky has always been of the opinion that Shivaay doesn't love her or appreciates her because she isn't as cultured, stylish and educated like Jhanvi, so when Shivaay defends Anika and gives her importance Pinky, her confidence in herself shatters even more, because if its not about style, education and class, then why doesn't Shivaay give her any time or importance?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


I was just thinking about this too😆 ...

It'd be really awesome if they show what exactly happened when he brought her back that day. The drama with NBs has been relentless since then.




I really hope they show us a flashback of that scene too, because the more I think about it, the more I feel that is when the idea for this whole plan started in Shivaay's mind. He may have had his doubts about Tia since she claimed she is pregnant with his baby, but I feel he made this plan because the attacks on him and Anika were increasing every day, and he couldn't afford to let Anika leave. So maybe his 'I need you' was for his plan, but I also feel he used reverse psychology on Anika to make her come back home, knowing that if he told her to stay because her life was in danger, she wouldn't have stayed, but if he told her he needed her, she would not be able to say no, since she can never say no to anyone asking for her help.

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