Love,logic and self respect :/???

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Everyday on this forum i see posts related to self respect and love and logic.I want to ask one thing,Every love story has equal partners? Or in every love story there is self respected girl or boy who leave the person they love because of their self respect? Or is there any logic in love?
Yeah we can have different perceptions about it.I have never fallen in love but i have many crushes.I don't get it how people fall in love?I mean if someone is caring about you or possessive about you.You like that person but love?? But love is different thing.
I have seen few people who just love selflessly even though the other person is not giving him/her that kind of love.
People change when they love or may be their true selves come out and why every argument,treatment or situation ends on leave me alone or i'm leaving you or go hell out of here note.
Is it the solution to every problem?

I don't know if my post is making sense😆.But in short i want to know ur perception of love and i want to say everyone react differently around their loved ones.
Sorry if i offended anyone

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey buddy, So I am just like you. Not yet hit by Cupid's arrow meaning vo ' violins in the background' wala pyaar Nahi hua Abhi.
But there is always this one person whom we love so much more than anyone in our life. And we don't agree with them on lot of matters but we still stick around. When it comes to them we still bow down. May be for some of us it's our mom or dad.
Yup I agree we are mandatoryly bound to love them. It's our factory setting to love them. But sometimes u might have noticed that even though you know that this person is wrong, u stick by them. You choose them over the world & sometimes over yourself too.
My mom is my that one person. I would do whatever she asks, even when it is totally opposite to what I wanna do or even what I sometimes stand for. Bcoz I love her.
Would I do this for someone who hasn't put themselves through a life threatening nine months period just to bring me in this world. I can't tell. May be I will.
Now coming to the thing we have at our hand. Anika. Do I understand her love for Shivaay? No, I call their relationship toxic for Anika, atleast untill that dumbhead knows her worth & act on it. And no that she almost dying in his hand may have sped the realization but he is not there yet.
Would I let my friend be in her situation where she is going all 'khud ke pair pe khulhadi', nope. But will I not act like the way she is acting? I don't know. May be I will. Bcoz that's what love is. You are ready to do anything for this person to be happy. And love is Selfish, I believe it. Bcoz seeing them happy is what is gonna make me happy. So I am indirectly working on my happiness.
And don't get me wrong. I am a feminist. And yes, if the roles were reversed & Shivaay was on Autolysis mode with Anika in Shivaay's position, I would feel the same about him.

Sorry this is getting long. But What you said about argument & quarrels & leaving alone. I believe it is not difficult to Love someone. The difficult part is to maintain that relationship. That's where most of us fail. Love has nothing to do with it. There, right there it becomes about priorities.
Edited by poemssyndrome - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: poemssyndrome

Hey buddy, So I am just like you. Not yet hit by Cupid's arrow meaning vo ' violins in the background' wala pyaar Nahi hua Abhi.
But there is always this one person whom we love so much more than anyone in our life. And we don't agree with them on lot of matters but we still stick around. When it comes to them we still bow down. May be for some of us it's our mom or dad.
Yup I agree we are mandatoryly bound to love them. It's our factory setting to love them. But sometimes u might have noticed that even though you know that this person is wrong, u stick by them. You choose them over the world & sometimes over yourself too.
My mom is my that one person. I would do whatever she asks, even when it is totally opposite to what I wanna do or even what I sometimes stand for. Bcoz I love her.
Would I do this for someone who hasn't put themselves through a life threatening nine months period just to bring me in this world. I can't tell. May be I will.
Now coming to the thing we have at our hand. Anika. Do I understand her love for Shivaay? No, I call their relationship toxic for Anika, atleast untill that dumbhead knows her worth & act on it. And no that she almost dying in his hand may have sped the realization but he is not there yet.
Would I let my friend be in her situation where she is going all 'khud ke pair pe khulhadi', nope. But will I not act like the way she is acting? I don't know. May be I will. Bcoz that's what love is. You are ready to do anything for this person to be happy. And love is Selfish, I believe it. Bcoz seeing them happy is what is gonna make me happy. So I am indirectly working on my happiness.
And don't get me wrong. I am a feminist. And yes, if the roles were reversed & Shivaay was on Autolysis mode with Anika in Shivaay's position, I would feel the same about him.

Sorry this is getting long. But What you said about argument & quarrels & leaving alone. I believe it is not difficult to Love someone. The difficult part is to maintain that relationship. That's where most of us fail. Love has nothing to do with it. There, right there it becomes about priorities.


According to me,I love my parents and my sis too much because when i was going through very tough phase of my life they supported me.I have never understood their position in my life before that phase.I completely agree with you.If my friend would be at position of anika i would tell her to divorce him and live her life happily.But i don't know if i fell in love (I mean in selfless type of love) would i do it or would it be easy to do as i would advice her?
exactly loving is easy but maintaining relationship is difficult.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post...!!
I'm not an expert either.. But I guess it's not possible to love a person who does not respect you for who you are..!! 😳
This is the same thing said by Annika before marriage..!!

But now looks like she has conveniently forgot about that.. SSO's misunderstanding has been cleared, but her's was not (i.e. she is obsessed with SSO)..!! It seems that she has forgot everything...!!

For the sake of TRP, Annika is clutching to her sindoor/mangal sutra... she forgot about who she is and she has her own life, knowing very well that this marriage means nothing to anyone (except dadi and herself 😆)... and she is supposed to leave OM one day..!!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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In my opinion, you have to love yourself before you can love others. Her behavior disappointing because the pacing is horrible, but TRP is king and its working. Everyone seems bipolar except Pinky who has been consistent throughout.

The precap was just...


The writers should have kept Sahil out of this. It wasn't too long ago he used him as a pawn. I love her, but I really hope she gets kicked out soon 😆



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very interesting post. I have never fallen in love before either so have no clue how we are supposed to behave when we fall in love with someone, the self-less kinds like Annika...

I have come to accept now that Annika is a woman who is desperately in love...this desperate trait of hers was hard for me to come to terms with me before. Especially cuz I myself have never fallen for someone so hard...and don't think I can. We have seen glimpses of her desperate side before, mainly in the ONS false alibi she gave was pivotal in demonstrating her self-less love. It is OKAY to fall desperately for someone despite knowing they would never accept you (like in the case of Annika). Dil pe koi zor nahi hota. I must learn to judge Annika without limiting boundaries on myself like if I can relate to her or not.

So the question then arises, does giving precedence to love&lover over self-respect make anyone a doormat when they are desperately & seflessly in love? Depends. In my opinion, it doesn't make Annika a doormat cuz I interpret this as a window period where the lover waits for their lover to come around. Why tarnish your own love like this by not giving your lover one chance to prove himself? Like I said already, I don't relate to this at all but I can see her POV. Once the waiting period ends, she will then make a decision. And then, if she doesn't leave, she will be a doormat. Yes. And I do think Annika will leave finally and we might get a brief judaai period...

Annika must be a much more emotionally mature person than me cuz it is a sign of maturity to not take such decisions on a whim. I would probably leave on a whim but that's just me. Also, Annika is a person who has had such a dearth of relationships (deep ones, not just love) in her life. She has only ever had a brother. So i can understand her hanging on ever so desperately to Shivaay...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: YoonHiChala

Very interesting post. I have never fallen in love before either so have no clue how we are supposed to behave when we fall in love with someone, the self-less kinds like Annika...

I have come to accept now that Annika is a woman who is desperately in love...this desperate trait of hers was hard for me to come to terms with me before. Especially cuz I myself have never fallen for someone so hard...and don't think I can. We have seen glimpses of her desperate side before, mainly in the ONS false alibi she gave was pivotal in demonstrating her self-less love. It is OKAY to fall desperately for someone despite knowing they would never accept you (like in the case of Annika). Dil pe koi zor nahi hota. I must learn to judge Annika without limiting boundaries on myself like if I can relate to her or not.

So the question then arises, does giving precedence to love&lover over self-respect make anyone a doormat when they are desperately & seflessly in love? Depends. In my opinion, it doesn't make Annika a doormat cuz I interpret this as a window period where the lover waits for their lover to come around. Why tarnish your own love like this by not giving your lover one chance to prove himself? Like I said already, I don't relate to this at all but I can see her POV. Once the waiting period ends, she will then make a decision. And then, if she doesn't leave, she will be a doormat. Yes. And I do think Annika will leave finally and we might get a brief judaai period...

Annika must be a much more emotionally mature person than me cuz it is a sign of maturity to not take such decisions on a whim. I would probably leave on a whim but that's just me. Also, Annika is a person who has had such a dearth of relationships (deep ones, not just love) in her life. She has only ever had a brother. So i can understand her hanging on ever so desperately to Shivaay...



I really Iike the way you said stuff here. Yup most of the times that's what we have to do. We have to see the other person's POV. May be she is desperate. But we have to give it to her. We live in these cozy environment with almost all the people being not only nice to us but they go all the way to make us happy.
Maybe she is just desperate for love. Uska banta hai yaar. Uske pass koi bhi Nahi hai. May be this is just window period.
U r absolutely correct about she being emotionally mature. But I feel this that once she will leave it would be really difficult for Shivaay to bring her back.
Edited by poemssyndrome - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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According to me,In love with someone,we never lose our self respect "by" that person,but we can lose our self respect "for" that person.i think am confusing u.i will give one example.if our parents are in danger we can sacrifice anything even our self-respect (here losing is not "by" parents dey never allow us to do dat, but by others)to save our parents if the situation demands.we can love a person who doesn't love us.but we can't luv the person who doesn't respect our& our feelings and emotions.If we still do that it is not luv.if u luv and respect yourself,then only u can luv anyone.pls don't search for logic,definition of love,self respect in serials.they can mislead us.bcz may be writers or directors may not be mature enough to understand these things or they don't care about spoiling their meanings for the sake of trp.particularly in ishqbaaz the characters are not consistent,they change according to the trps.here any girl in anika's place will not stay in OM after forced marriage.she will run away far from dat person to protect themselves in future or take revenge or just lead their own life thinking that is one nightmare in their life &just move on.if that person changes and apologise for "wat he have done" & try to rectify " that mistake" and then that girl can think to forgive him or not.but any girl can't trust him easily to stay in that relationship.it takes a lot of time to trust dat person again.

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