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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Yes like the old saying "Boys will be Boys", I guess "Gul will be Gul". She is incapable of coming off her Mills & Boon 80's high. Still living in the past.


"You don't want to get on the bad side of Shivaay Singh Oberoi. What do you think will happen next!! Clue - he knows brothers can be a weakness!!" - WOW, like really Gul? 🤢 Yeah brothers can be a weakness! Remember when "sisters" were a weakness? How 2011 of you!


Finally saw that video of Annika being chased by SSO's security and then the man himself appears. WHAT pray I ask is the "celebratory" part of that video? What is this word "Tashan?" My grasp of Hindi is pretty good I think for someone who never knew the language growing up, other than in BW songs my Mom used to play. So I don't quite get it when everyone is so excited for the so-called "Tashan" when what I see is a man hunting down a woman, rounding her up like cattle, threatening her with her brother, and forcing her to save his and his family's "image" in public? ALL this while despising this very same woman, for NOT being from his background and lineage. He is not accepting his feelings for her because he is ashamed of them and consider them to be a weakness. He fell in love, but beneath him. (in his opinion). So he won't acknowledge that feeling.


If Gul thinks that makes him like Mr. Darcy, sorry to burst you bubble Gul it does not! Mr.Darcy struggled with his feelings in private. He never took advantage of Elizabeth or her weaknesses and neither did he ever misjudge her or try to extract any sort of revenge from her. His feelings were HIS problem, and he dealt with them himself. (Even after he knew Elizabeth had bad mouthed him to people after believing Wickham's account of him). Just because Shivaay is obsessed with background and Mr. Darcy was also proud and class conscious does not make them the same! To expect your writers or yourself to be able to create a nuanced and layered character with the kind of sensitivity that the great legend Ms. Jane Austen did is an exercise in futility, and to compare characters created by yourself or your writers to her's is akin to sacrilege. Ms. Austen was a genius and a legend. You people,don't even come within light years of her! (She is my favorite author, if no one could tell after that rant). She is the reason I write even today. She is my inspiration.


Getting back to SSO...What part of Shivaay blackmailing Annika using Sahil as "Bait" is to be celebrated? Gul put it up like it's some trophy? Showing a woman being victimized by a man with power and money into doing his bidding? WOW, what "Nayi Soch!" Congrats Star Plus, hot hot Nayi Soch on HotStar!! Aap loaag cha gaye! (I hope I said that right).


As for Gul...Grow Up! It's high time.


@bold and mr darcy was written in 18th century while shivaay is from 21st century. 200+ year difference and mr darcy is still better, more modern than what her writers churn out! you know what bothered me the most was her main writer going and commenting on her insta post - and saying more she runs away from sso , more she is running towards him!!!!!!

i was like are u serious? are u telling me that he can break the law and emotionally challenge her by holding her brother hostage and we are all supposed to lap it up and think omg so romantic. its not ROMANTIC, its downright disgusting! i think they got confused - torturing a female lead is not romantic and def not a turn on! in reality, shivaay should be in jail, not doing a 24 hour waali shaadi - and where does that exist anyways 😆. she also mocked the judicial system with this.
to gul and her writers, please stop creating wannabe darcys and mr. thorntons in your show, its disturbing to see the best literal gems of the world being butchered like this by some wannabe jane austens 😉
Edited by NYCForever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NYCForever


@bold and mr darcy was written in 18th century while shivaay is from 21st century. 200+ year difference and mr darcy is still better, more modern than what her writers churn out! you know what bothered me the most was her main writer going and commenting on her insta post - and saying more she runs away from sso , more she is running towards him!!!!!!

i was like are u serious? are u telling me that he can break the law and emotionally challenge her by holding her brother hostage and we are all supposed to lap it up and think omg so romantic. its not ROMANTIC, its downright disgusting! i think they got confused - torturing a female lead is not romantic and def not a turn on! in reality, shivaay should be in jail, not doing a 24 hour waali shaadi - and where does that exist anyways 😆. she also mocked the judicial system with this.
to gul and her writers, please stop creating wannabe darcys and mr. thorntons in your show, its disturbing to see the best literal gems of the world being butchered like this by some wannabe jane austens 😉

I agree. No where close to Mr.Darcy. I love Jane Austen too and no she is nowhere close to her either.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Whats wid Shivaay's MU of ONS or anything? Even if she actually slept wid a guy, he has no f**king right to treat a woman like dis? There is something called as minding it own business. Wat if she even sleeps for money? Uske baap ka kya jaata hai? There is no justification for his behaviour. No wonder why men in India thinks women as their inferior. Gul is really filthy minded for posting dat 'run away' dialogue. If she likes d jerk heroes of her books so be it. Why d hell she is forcing such stories on us? She is d same woman giving beautiful n women empowered shows like Himse Hai Life n Suvreen Guggal but on GEL channels she shows such stupid shows.
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Originally posted by: NYCForever


@bold and mr darcy was written in 18th century while shivaay is from 21st century. 200+ year difference and mr darcy is still better, more modern than what her writers churn out! you know what bothered me the most was her main writer going and commenting on her insta post - and saying more she runs away from sso , more she is running towards him!!!!!!

i was like are u serious? are u telling me that he can break the law and emotionally challenge her by holding her brother hostage and we are all supposed to lap it up and think omg so romantic. its not ROMANTIC, its downright disgusting! i think they got confused - torturing a female lead is not romantic and def not a turn on! in reality, shivaay should be in jail, not doing a 24 hour waali shaadi - and where does that exist anyways 😆. she also mocked the judicial system with this.
to gul and her writers, please stop creating wannabe darcys and mr. thorntons in your show, its disturbing to see the best literal gems of the world being butchered like this by some wannabe jane austens 😉
Hear!!! hear!!! 👍🏼

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster



I am guessing the slap will end all conversations, actually. AND some day, much later, after she has saved every one's lives all over again including Ram Mohan the driver, (and ye toh ensemble cast hai, sab ka sab ki turn aane me time lagega). When other things start to make him doubt his opinion about ANIKA, he will revisit her reaction to this and see it for what it is.



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sorry i had to reply to this 😆😆
nothing will change
ppl love all this
they will show all this
im not even bothering to watch their scenes anymore
I just fast forward it to glimpse of RuMya cz theyre my only hope before she ruins them too 🥱


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Posted: 8 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Yes like the old saying "Boys will be Boys", I guess "Gul will be Gul". She is incapable of coming off her Mills & Boon 80's high. Still living in the past.


"You don't want to get on the bad side of Shivaay Singh Oberoi. What do you think will happen next!! Clue - he knows brothers can be a weakness!!" - WOW, like really Gul? 🤢 Yeah brothers can be a weakness! Remember when "sisters" were a weakness? How 2011 of you!


Finally saw that video of Annika being chased by SSO's security and then the man himself appears. WHAT pray I ask is the "celebratory" part of that video? What is this word "Tashan?" My grasp of Hindi is pretty good I think for someone who never knew the language growing up, other than in BW songs my Mom used to play. So I don't quite get it when everyone is so excited for the so-called "Tashan" when what I see is a man hunting down a woman, rounding her up like cattle, threatening her with her brother, and forcing her to save his and his family's "image" in public? ALL this while despising this very same woman, for NOT being from his background and lineage. He is not accepting his feelings for her because he is ashamed of them and consider them to be a weakness. He fell in love, but beneath him. (in his opinion). So he won't acknowledge that feeling.


If Gul thinks that makes him like Mr. Darcy, sorry to burst you bubble Gul it does not! Mr.Darcy struggled with his feelings in private. He never took advantage of Elizabeth or her weaknesses and neither did he ever misjudge her or try to extract any sort of revenge from her. His feelings were HIS problem, and he dealt with them himself. (Even after he knew Elizabeth had bad mouthed him to people after believing Wickham's account of him). Just because Shivaay is obsessed with background and Mr. Darcy was also proud and class conscious does not make them the same! To expect your writers or yourself to be able to create a nuanced and layered character with the kind of sensitivity that the great legend Ms. Jane Austen did is an exercise in futility, and to compare characters created by yourself or your writers to her's is akin to sacrilege. Ms. Austen was a genius and a legend. You people,don't even come within light years of her! (She is my favorite author, if no one could tell after that rant). She is the reason I write even today. She is my inspiration.


Getting back to SSO...What part of Shivaay blackmailing Annika using Sahil as "Bait" is to be celebrated? Gul put it up like it's some trophy? Showing a woman being victimized by a man with power and money into doing his bidding? WOW, what "Nayi Soch!" Congrats Star Plus, hot hot Nayi Soch on HotStar!! Aap loaag cha gaye! (I hope I said that right).


As for Gul...Please Grow Up! It's high time.

This!! 👏👏👏
Mr. Darcy and Mr. Thronton (Sorry have to mention him I'm a big big North and South fan), they struggled with their feeling internally.. All their clashes with the female leads were due to conflicting ideas and big egos.. BUT They never ever disrespected the FL even during MUs or when they were hurt.. Their love did not just turn on/off randomly.. Their NKK(Naam-Khoon-Khandan) principle did not turn on/off randomly.. Just the fact that they fell in love with the FLs or were attracted to them did not change them, but the FLs influence on them slowly slowly made them see the flaws in the NKK philosophy and deflated their ego .. The growth in their characters was consistent.. Once they learned something, the next day their brains remembered what they had learned unlike Mr. SSO 😆
Edit: On second thoughts this comparison is unfair..
Kahan Raja Bhoj aur kahan gangu teli..😆
Edited by blackorwhite - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Yes like the old saying "Boys will be Boys", I guess "Gul will be Gul". She is incapable of coming off her Mills & Boon 80's high. Still living in the past.</font>


<font size="2"><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">"You don't want to get on the bad side of Shivaay Singh Oberoi. What do you think will happen next!! Clue - he knows brothers can be a weakness!!" </font>- <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">WOW, like really Gul? 🤢 Yeah brothers can be a weakness! Remember when "sisters" were a weakness? How 2011 of you!</font></font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New
Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Finally saw that videoof Annika being chased by SSO's security and then the man himself appears. WHAT pray I ask is the "celebratory" part of that video? What is this word "Tashan?"My grasp of Hindi is pretty good I think for someone who never knew the language growing up, other than in BW songs my Mom used to play. So I don't quite get it when everyone is so excited for the so-called "Tashan" when what I see is a man hunting down a woman,
rounding her up like cattle, threatening her with her brother, and forcing her to save his and his family's "image" in public? ALL this while despising this very same woman, for NOT being from his background and lineage.He is not accepting his feelings for her because he is ashamed of them and consider them to be a weakness. He fell in love, but beneath him. (in his opinion). So he won't acknowledge that feeling.</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">If Gul thinks that makes him like Mr. Darcy, sorry to burst you bubble Gul it does not! Mr.Darcy struggled with his feelings in private. He never took advantage of Elizabeth or her weaknesses and neither did he ever misjudge her or try to extract any sort of revenge from her. His feelings were HIS problem, and he dealt with them himself. (Even after he knew Elizabeth had bad mouthed him to people after believing Wickham's account of him). Just because Shivaay is obsessed with background and Mr. Darcy was also proud and classconscious does not make them the same! To expect your writers or yourself to be able to create a nuanced and layered character with the kind of sensitivity that the great legend Ms. Jane Austen did is an exercise in futility, and to compare characters created by yourself or your writers to her's is akin to sacrilege. Ms. Austen was a genius and a legend. You people,don't even come within light years of her! (She is my favorite author, if no one could tell after that rant). She is the reason I write even today. She is my inspiration.</font>


<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Getting back to SSO...What part of Shivaay blackmailing Annika using Sahil as "Bait" is to be celebrated? Gulput it up like it's some trophy? Showing a woman being victimized by a man with power and money into doing his bidding? WOW, what "NayiSoch!" Congrats Star Plus, hot hot Nayi Soch on HotStar!! Aap loaagcha gaye! (I hope I said that right).</font>


<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">As for Gul...Please Grow Up! It's high time.</font>




I second u.what u write r soo true.so i'll not only told
Gul to grow up,but also told the indian audience to grow up.
Logical post 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Navin I agree but can I admit that I took happiness in watching the precap?

Everyone knows that this slap ( and probably the other one that Dadi will give him in the near future) its only a momentary respite before a whole lot of pain and humiliation that Ani will have to face in the future, no matter how bravely she deals with it!! Both of them will stay pigheaded and offer no explanations and that sickening MU will stay on.
I was happy because when Shivaay comes to know the truth of it all, this thappad would play in his head atleast half the number of times that I did yesterday and he would realize what an ass he was being!

Gul is really something man!! In just a few episodes, she converted Shivaay , a guy with the only major flaw of having an obsession for NKAK ideologies and a slightly inflated ego into an airheaded idiot who questions the morals of woman he loves, calls her a s***, presumably kidnaps a young boy and after chasing her like some feudal lord in a BMW, forces a contract marriage on the woman , threatening her with blackmail...

Its like she went, my hero is such a saint so lets make him irredeemable by making him do stuff that will, anywhere else except in my show, land him behind bars!!And while you are at it writers, throw in two slaps. The audience will love that and watch the rest of the episode!!
I hate myself because the last part is not completely wrong!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nayi soch is subjecting women. It is Anika slapping Shivaay, it is her blackmailed into a marriage with a man who has no respect for her, who would rather be a jerk than be human and give the benift of the doubt. He won't think of her as a human now, he'll taunt her, humiliate her at every given moment and do whatever he can go make her life hell. Anika on the other hand will slap, cry, ignore, do the best she can because it's her brother's future on the line and sometimes give him as good as she gets. This misunderstanding will last till the end of time and will ruin so many characters in the process. WHY?! How hard is it to come up with something original? You're gonna treat women like crap on tv and go on and talk about how we shouldn't be treated this way. Kuch tou original kar, Gul! It's sad that you and some people think it's okay if she slaps him, he manhandles her, some so called "Tashan" and sooner or later he'll find out and realize his mistake. I'm tired of same things being repeating under a different label. You have good actors and a good situation, you could create something completely different and new, but nahi. Sasta aur tikau it is.
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Originally posted by: -Afia-

Nayi soch is subjecting women. It is Anika slapping Shivaay, it is her blackmailed into a marriage with a man who has no respect for her, who would rather be a jerk than be human and give the benift of the doubt. He won't think of her as a human now, he'll taunt her, humiliate her at every given moment and do whatever he can go make her life hell. Anika on the other hand will slap, cry, ignore, do the best she can because it's her brother's future on the line and sometimes give him as good as she gets. This misunderstanding will last till the end of time and will ruin so many characters in the process. WHY?! How hard is it to come up with something original? You're gonna treat women like crap on tv and go on and talk about how we shouldn't be treated this way. Kuch tou original kar, Gul! It's sad that you and some people think it's okay if she slaps him, he manhandles her, some so called "Tashan" and sooner or later he'll find out and realize his mistake. I'm tired of same things being repeating under a different label. You have good actors and a good situation, you could create something completely different and new, but nahi. Sasta aur tikau it is.




+1 to everything you said. Gul and co think this "Sells". The never ending drama of marrying someone without informing one's family and then the taunts and the insults the woman has to suffer. A person who never even ASKED to be there in the first place and was blackmailed into it, has to listen to insults from everyone! THAT is what sells and gets TRP according to the makers of this show.

So ironic and hypocritical that they did a so-called "Women empowerment" track, and did a lot of big bashan's etc. But at the end of the day, when it came to living up to it, just went with the typical, Hero MU heroine, call her characterless, then she slaps him. He blackmails her to marry him. His family and he treat her like she forced herself into their house. She gets insulted even by random people who visit their house etc etc. This is suppose to be #Entertainment?

I don't know what is Nayi Soch in all this. This is even worse than Purani Soch! LOL. What I found worse than everything, was how Gul Khan was putting that video of Annika being chased down and cornered by 5 cars and a bunch of intimidating men as if it's some cool thing. Showing Shivaay's bullying behavior as Oh So Cool! "Dont get on the wrong side of Shivaay" etc. Using her Brother to compel her as something to "Boast" about? I was more offended by her tone and her bragging even more than the Actions!

A woman, celebrating a man blackmailing and bullying a woman into marriage against her will? How can she even have any shame to talk of woman empowerment after all that? But then until there are plenty of women willing to defend such actions and also celebrate them, producers like Gul will always have someone to sell their brand of regressive, packaged as "Christian Grey" to!
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