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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post Deepu!
She conned someone and when that person pointed it out, they are wrong. In which way I can never understand.
She blamed Ridhima for being a bigger fraud that her, in which way that too I can never understand. At least Ridhima loves Om truly, not like her wanting to trap him by love.
Truth is not a luxury and here she clearly chose to be dishonest. It was her life choice. She seems educated when she used the word idealism, why didn't she find a proper job to save her family. She found joy in conning people... And now she takes out her frustrations on the Oberoi clan. 👏 I don't want to miss her 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I did not like her dig at obros bt i disagree that she need to behave like anika.anika is righteous girl but ishana is con woman with loose morals.her getting not aplogetic is fine .she was also correct about obros empire.but what i did not like that she tried to show that you are more faulty than me.
And she tried to hide her faults by poverty mask.
If she had not given such excuses and had behaved like pro con woman then i would have loved her.but instead she tried to justify herself by showing that uour crimes are bigger than me.

Waise vrunal nailed those scenes.and i m back to being ishkara shipper.even though i did notlike ishana today i aaccept her with faults
Sati savitri hona jaroori nahi
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I hardly think that this is a matter of right and wrong to begin with. Viewing this as unbiased as I can I dont find Ishana or Om completely at fault. I can see where Om is coming from. He has been lied to by a woman whom he tried to be kind to. A normal person wont like it and Om being the idealist he is would hate it. So it was normal of him to shout at her in the harshest way possible.
But her point about poverty was no nonsense. It was unknowingly what Om deserved to hear. Truth is indeed a luxury only the rich can afford. Yes she has a sob story, straight out of the 80s movies, but she is in fact poor and she needs the money to save her sister(I am not saying I like this angle, but the character is made that way. No point in cribbing about what could have been). I have said this time and again, Om is not a realist and he needs a bucket of cold water to understand the pains of the real world. Its so easy for him to say that truth is a choice, but with truth Mona could now very well be in a brothel serving some disgusting man.

Yet Omkara is right in his own stance for she did break his trust and nothing can change that reality. But parvarish has no connection whatsoever on the person each of us decides to be. Didnt dadi give Tej a good Parvarish? and what has he become? Even then Ishana with her excuse of a dad might be an example of Parvarish gone wrong. But love do not see right and wrong does it? No matter how pathetic or wrong your family is love can blind you. You do not mess even with a thief's parents unless you are ready to face their wrath. I found Ishana's reaction natural and for a change logical.

Now the delicate part. The way she commented on his family. Ishana is not mahan, her character is immature. I dont expect anything less than a childish tit for tat from her. So he insults her family and she does the same though she doesnt even have the right to speak back to him. Why would Ishana care about playing it fair? When she called Om an idealist she was right. Om is also a hypocrite cfor the same reason but Ishana is herself a hypocrite too. She lies but then accuses Rudra and Shivaay of doing the same. Ishana was wrong in her analysis of the family and the brothers. But what she told them was what the common people believed the Oberois to be. The oberois through the eyes of commoners. I hated that Ishana called Rudra a lying play boy and Shivaay a ruthless manipulative businessman. This was not the truth but the words did hold some things close to the truth. You dont believe me? Look at the face of the brothers when Ishana points this out. Rudra is hurt but he also has a hint of guilt. Shivaay is clearly upset and taken aback but his face also holds a hint of guilt.

But then there is Omkara who cannot here one word against his brothers. I believe the idealist Om loosens himself when it comes to brothers and hence he is indeed a hypocrite. Om just ignores his brothers' flaws and he himself is guilty of it in the corner of his mind. But his love for his brothers is so complete that he cannot see beyond this love and he snaps. He is right when he says Ishana doesnt know anything, she only knows the half baked truths. But again Om's idealism is his biggest flaw and he vows to stand with truth always which is foolishness. He just sees the world the way he wants it to be.

Ishana truly messed up by bringing in Tej. That I agree. But then that is her character. She is not Anika who would hold up her head with dignity and retort decently. Ishana just wants to have the satisfaction of winning the argument and hurting him or so I would like to believe. I can understand her anger but cannot see what right she holds to be angry.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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It was funny
I mean it is rediculous when a "con girl" talks about virtues and family
Om ... He didn't target any one to rob them
... He didn't plan someone's money involving his fly
Poor fellow he was targeted by a con girl , when he questioned her " she tried to became mahan

What can I say about Ishana's fly ...
Father is an alcoholic and a compulsive gambler ... How dare she brought "Tej , Shivay & Rudre" in to it ...I felt really bad for Om
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Actors did wonderful job
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Both Om and Ishaana are flawed, both of them felt justified in their anger. Things said in anger are to be regretted later. Though personally, I still feel that in terms of morality, Om stood higher.
In other circumstances she might have gained the upper hand. Her points about his family are not unfounded after all They are ugly truths.

But just for a moment, set aside these external factors. Strip the issue down to its basic core. Looking at it solely from the perspective of Om the Victim and Ishaana the Con Artist, I find that it is impossible to symphatise with her.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Why do you want to justify Ishana? Ishana my dear is a flawed character not a grey character. Eveythhing she does will and won't be right! What she did was wrong and at some point she'll be completely wrong but that's the thing that's completely new and refreshing! While Omkara is all preachy and stuff with all the truth ka saath nai chodunga and all which is kinda annoying (still love him nonetheless) Ishana on the other is flawed ,a liar and thief ( won't call her a con because come on 😆 ) anyway this is just a role reversal of Shivika in my opinion with the guy all Mahan and the girl completely flawed! (I know Omkara wasn't always like this and stuff so I'm talking in the present)
Peace!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Lachu-

I hardly think that this is a matter of right and wrong to begin with. Viewing this as unbiased as I can I dont find Ishana or Om completely at fault. I can see where Om is coming from. He has been lied to by a woman whom he tried to be kind to. A normal person wont like it and Om being the idealist he is would hate it. So it was normal of him to shout at her in the harshest way possible.

But her point about poverty was no nonsense. It was unknowingly what Om deserved to hear. Truth is indeed a luxury only the rich can afford. Yes she has a sob story, straight out of the 80s movies, but she is in fact poor and she needs the money to save her sister(I am not saying I like this angle, but the character is made that way. No point in cribbing about what could have been). I have said this time and again, Om is not a realist and he needs a bucket of cold water to understand the pains of the real world. Its so easy for him to say that truth is a choice, but with truth Mona could now very well be in a brothel serving some disgusting man.

Yet Omkara is right in his own stance for she did break his trust and nothing can change that reality. But parvarish has no connection whatsoever on the person each of us decides to be. Didnt dadi give Tej a good Parvarish? and what has he become? Even then Ishana with her excuse of a dad might be an example of Parvarish gone wrong. But love do not see right and wrong does it? No matter how pathetic or wrong your family is love can blind you. You do not mess even with a thief's parents unless you are ready to face their wrath. I found Ishana's reaction natural and for a change logical.

Now the delicate part. The way she commented on his family. Ishana is not mahan, her character is immature. I dont expect anything less than a childish tit for tat from her. So he insults her family and she does the same though she doesnt even have the right to speak back to him. Why would Ishana care about playing it fair? When she called Om an idealist she was right. Om is also a hypocrite cfor the same reason but Ishana is herself a hypocrite too. She lies but then accuses Rudra and Shivaay of doing the same. Ishana was wrong in her analysis of the family and the brothers. But what she told them was what the common people believed the Oberois to be. The oberois through the eyes of commoners. I hated that Ishana called Rudra a lying play boy and Shivaay a ruthless manipulative businessman. This was not the truth but the words did hold some things close to the truth. You dont believe me? Look at the face of the brothers when Ishana points this out. Rudra is hurt but he also has a hint of guilt. Shivaay is clearly upset and taken aback but his face also holds a hint of guilt.

But then there is Omkara who cannot here one word against his brothers. I believe the idealist Om loosens himself when it comes to brothers and hence he is indeed a hypocrite. Om just ignores his brothers' flaws and he himself is guilty of it in the corner of his mind. But his love for his brothers is so complete that he cannot see beyond this love and he snaps. He is right when he says Ishana doesnt know anything, she only knows the half baked truths. But again Om's idealism is his biggest flaw and he vows to stand with truth always which is foolishness. He just sees the world the way he wants it to be.

Ishana truly messed up by bringing in Tej. That I agree. But then that is her character. She is not Anika who would hold up her head with dignity and retort decently. Ishana just wants to have the satisfaction of winning the argument and hurting him or so I would like to believe. I can understand her anger but cannot see what right she holds to be angry.


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This is gold. Impressively analysed. Very close to what I feel. So I'm just copying the whole damn post. 😆

@bold - She doesn't hold any right to be angry. Except for the fact that she cannot see pass someone insulting her family, that's all. And that, as you said, is natural.

I think they were just trying a false attempt at redeeming her character from all the nonsense that's been going on. For me at least, this is a step in the right direction. There could be a lot of points in her argument that I would disagree with. Poverty isn't an excuse for anything. Zilch, zero. Look at Anika, she's brilliant at figuring her way out potholes. But then everyone doesn't have the same chances either. What would Anika have done without Dadi's miraculous aid at the last moment? Moreover, it's kind of invariable that they wanted a flawed character for someone who is as 'idealistic' as Om. Kind of the opposite of Shivika. I like watching two strikingly varied love stories. How boring would it be otherwise?

Personally, I also think we tend to over-analyze and crib about everything. Therein lies the problem. If only the CVs thought as much before setting up a scene, we probably wouldn't have so many confluent disagreements. Wherever they're trying to go from now on, I hope they know what they're doing.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes she wasn't right in ripping Rudra & SSO apart but I have to say that vrushy really acted well and as I've mentioned in my post it's good riddance to bela mala so we might just see worthwhile scenes now

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