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Posted: 6 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Houstonmom

I think more then anything we need answers and clarification. We are hooked on the point that ruksaars iddah is incomplete making this nikah invalid . So all these intimate scenes between ruksaar and kabeer are considered zinna(adultery) which is a huge sin ! How can a mulla who is a community role model be shown in compromising scenes knowing or not? It's unacceptable for a show that revolves around Islam.
Showing kabeer making duaa before the scenes with ruksaar throwing herself at him when she shouldn't even be in a setting like that to begin with because of the doubt of validity of the relationship is an insult to Islam and Muslims as this show is supposed to be representing the difference between custom and religion. For several weeks we have been sitting and waiting but nothing is being done to clarify if the 3monthhs and 25 day iddah accepted was a mistake or not . So resentment is building heavily.
Now we have entered the point of discrespect if you don't know enough about the religion you have absolutely no business making a drama that is representing wrong information to an audience that is influenced by what your showing!

Mr khan being the only Muslim actor on set you should know better! Saying the marriage is invalid in interviews then acting out these disgusting scenes is inexcusable .



Yep they have made a complete mockery of Islam especially in this track and have caused so much confusion in regards to iddah especially for those viewers who are non Muslim. They are just gonna show what they wanna show in the name of trps and don't care about the sentiments of the audiences or how much we stress that we do not want to see this kind of rubbish.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: flat_everest

Seriously..

This gurl shipsy s a directors actor no doubts
But cornering d female lead and reducing her into a examiner and pyar m pagal is bot gelling with me too
Ghai saab , please Answer



I find Shipsy lacking versatility. She nails the creepiness but she is unimpressive in emotional scenes. Haven't watched much of intimate scenes with Adnan but from whatever little clips and pics I have seen, she clearly looks stiff and uncomfortable.

Eisha clearly has been reduced to a sidekick with this Ruksar track. I wonder if the makers still remember that the show is about Zabeer and not about their darling Ruksar.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zaabir



Yes I want an answer to this too Mr Chai. Adnan and Eisha are such brilliant actors who bring Zara and kabeer to life onscreen that watching them is so magical. I just adore these two talented people. How ever this track is wasting their hard work and talent as they have been side lined.



There are so many of us like who got attached to the show because of the leads, and makers very well know it. Now even the channel is endorsing the brand 'Zabeer' but unfortunately the makers are adamant on ruining the essence of the show and Zabeer with a third wheel angle.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Most of us here echo the same thoughts! I was going to write an open letter to the team after seeing how disappointed everyone was after the ridiculous epi! As well as the spoilers and upcoming segments show no sign of doing away with Rukhsar! Thank you for writing this. I honestly believe that viewers have the right to express their opinions because after all a show is made to entertain viewers. I think they shouldn't forget that we are the customers. It's not easy to make a show that is loved by audiences so when CV's have this opportunity they should be open to constructive criticism. We as viewers obviously want the show to progress and be successful so when we say we don't want to watch something it means that we don't want it. When people are openly stating their opinion CV's should reflect on what is going wrong and fix it. Real life is already full of a whole lot of negative things people need to deal with so when we watch something it's a little time to destress but when the show itself turns dark and negative there's no point watching to stress yourself out more. Young Audiences love the lead pair. Adnan and Eisha's acting as well as chemistry is mindblowing. Introducing villain after villian and turning the show creepy is not going to help as it will go the typical cliched Indian stories which are illogical. Honestly this Rukhsar track is outright cheap! If writers are running out of ideas or are having a writers block just browsing our comments will give a million ideas for the progression of the story. If such a wonderful show is going downhill that means everyone's hard work is also being wasted on things we do not want to see. Instead of wasting a whole episode on Rukhsar's obssessive and mentally sick behaviour, I would have been extremely happy with one full episode based just on Zara and Kabir's confrontation, their conversation and their insecurities.
But instead we get to see really cheap and forced scenes of Rukhsar and Kabeer.🤢
[DIV]Please try and understand that kabeer and Rukhsar scenes are extremely repulsive we can't bear to watch them for a second. They make me want to puke. Just like how Rukhsar is forcing Kabeer you guys are forcing us to bear with this unnecessary nonsense. Before it's too late please listen to the opinions of the viewers. No we aren't trying to tell you that you are not doing your job properly, of course you must be but it's just that this track isn't going down very well with young audiences. It's just making a mockery of zaabir's pure relationship. I understand that our ranting and expression of frustration is not going to reduce CV's love for Rukhsar as the spoilers clearly indicate we are going to get more pukeworthy forced touchy-feely, fake romantic scenes ooff Kabeer and Rukhsar.As a loyal Zaabir fan and a fan of their beautiful relationship, I request you guys not to put us through this level of torture. Keep Rukhsar do whatever you want with her but please spare us thw horror of these ugly scenes. (No offense to the actors but the character of rukhsar is too dark and evil to be tolerated. Adnan is doing a fab job with his acting.) We are hanging on for Zaabir. Before you loose your show and it's loyal viewers please filter content like this as it can have crazily

I have kept myself away from the show since the news of kabeer's 2nd nikkah started making rounds. Watched Zabeer's wedding and the revelation and that's it. And being a non muslim I cannot comment anything concrete about the religious and cultural aspect of the show. But the way they have managed to reduce the strong headed FL to a mere bystander, the screen time of the vamp and the intimate scenes of ML and vamp had me furious. So the post.

But pls, go ahead and make a post about the current track, would love to read it. IF anyway has become irrelevant because of platforms like Instagram and Twitter. But sadly #IshqSubhanAllah on twitter is more of an appreciation corner. U just can't dare to criticise the show there.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veronica13

One thing that I find common between Rukhsar and all of us is that we are both obsessed with something. Rukhsar is obsessed with Kabeer and we are obsessed with this show.

We all are regretting to having wasted our time on this show and I reckon there is no end to Rukhsars character either. I wish I stopped watching this show after that Farz night of Kabeer and Zara. Who would've thought makers are going to bring back Rukhsar as Kabeer's wife!!
Let's be honest,we saw this coming and this is going to happen for a long time. It's an Indian serial and all they care about is TRPs. The sensible ones will boycott it but there are aunties who love watching such drama's. They just love watching leads having a miserable life. I wish the makers thought a little about the younger generations too and give us something sensible to watch. Indian shows have come a long way and there is more to explore for them. But if they stick to the same old crapy lame contents and marketing they won't be setting a standard even in near future. I hope the makers realise this soon!! Sooner the better.
Coming back to ISA, it would be great if we stop watching this show for some time atleast if you guys don't wanna end up like Rukhsars obsession with Kabeer😆..it's never too late!!
And I feel even if we complaint , nothing will happen coz major part of audience still love watching such unrealistic shit stories.



I swear if I had any idea of the 3rd wheel angle, I would have kept myself away from the show. No matter what the explanation is, the nikkah of kabeer and Ruksar makes no sense to me at all. And on top of it they are shoving their intimate scenes on us. Not interested!!
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Posted: 6 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Puruuu

Yes it was coming but i never thought like this it would come. I knew sometime it will be that she will come back again and their will be erruption between the leads.
We all knew she will come back but like this, we never thought.


When the leads were getting married, and that laal khat wali rasam ke baad hi. Zara and her mother used the word sauten for her always. Ki is masle ko sauten kehte hain. But that time only i had a thought in the back of my mind ki ye track aayega.
It was hardly 10-12 episodes then so i was not that attached to the show and the leads

With their journey i completely forgot about rukhsar and this sauten thing. Who would have thought that it will come like this atleast not me.

In the segments it is shown that zara is still very insecure of kabeer having second wife.
And that i would say is shown nicely. Even zara dream when rukhsaar was playing thumb game with kabeer. I liked it.
I just hope the track is shifted to zara insecurities but this dumb male lead needs to understand that he needs to do alot before he mends this relation.

God knows dono ko mentos kab bajegi, and they will get on the track of how to nullify the nikkah.
But i guess hamdan alive thing will be the track.
Because shariya board peer sahab sab maan chuke hain that rukhsaar is his wife. So if they now bring annulment then toh ye qazi and peer sahab ki bestee type hogi. The only way out is either she dies or humdaan is alive.



To be honest, I'll be disappointed if the nikkah is annulled because of Humdan being alive. That would only mean that Kabeer actually has accepted her as his wife and didn't do much to sever all his ties with her. That he was ok of her being his second wife for the rest of his life and let Zara suffer. So I want him to take charge of the situation and get himself out of the mess.

U know, I was actually thinking of watching today's episode after so long. But the recent spoiler has put me off big time. He is actually seen carrying Ruksar in his arms in Zara's imagination. Now this is something that I cannot stomach. Why do you even come up with scenes Mr. Ghai?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Houstonmom

I think more then anything we need answers and clarification. We are hooked on the point that ruksaars iddah is incomplete making this nikah invalid . So all these intimate scenes between ruksaar and kabeer are considered zinna(adultery) which is a huge sin ! How can a mulla who is a community role model be shown in compromising scenes knowing or not? It's unacceptable for a show that revolves around Islam.
Showing kabeer making duaa before the scenes with ruksaar throwing herself at him when she shouldn't even be in a setting like that to begin with because of the doubt of validity of the relationship is an insult to Islam and Muslims as this show is supposed to be representing the difference between custom and religion. For several weeks we have been sitting and waiting but nothing is being done to clarify if the 3monthhs and 25 day iddah accepted was a mistake or not . So resentment is building heavily.
Now we have entered the point of discrespect if you don't know enough about the religion you have absolutely no business making a drama that is representing wrong information to an audience that is influenced by what your showing!

Mr khan being the only Muslim actor on set you should know better! Saying the marriage is invalid in interviews then acting out these disgusting scenes is inexcusable .



This show was set out to clear the misconceptions about Islam. As a non muslim I can vouch that it has only managed to make us even more confused. Thanks to the forum and social media we could clear a lot of doubt because of the discussion here. But imagine the plight of people who are not on any social media. They must be believing whatever the makers are tossing at them.

I was wondering if Islam says to throw one's life away and put one's spouse to living hell to help a criminal? Aren't criminals bound to face repercussions of their actions ? , Why is Meraj in jail in that case. Let him also walk Scot free. Isn't he a human?

Coming to the iddat part, I don't expect much from the makers. They don't give proper closure to any track. A lot is still hanging in the air, Siraj, Meraj and Ruksar's connection is still not explored.

They abruptly ended Zabeer's talaq without giving any proper justification. The list goes on...

Adnan himself seems confused going by his interviews. Initially the nikkah was not valid as per him, then he implied that the nikkah will be annulled. And now in his interviews he is saying ' Meri dono biwiyan'. 'jayaz nikkah' and all. That makes me believe that they are constantly making changes in the scrip to suit their convenience.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: beastmaster



To be honest, I'll be disappointed if the nikkah is annulled because of Humdan being alive. That would only mean that Kabeer actually has accepted her as his wife and didn't do much to sever all his ties with her. That he was ok of her being his second wife for the rest of his life and let Zara suffer. So I want him to take charge of the situation and get himself out of the mess.

U know, I was actually thinking of watching today's episode after so long. But the recent spoiler has put me off big time. He is actually seen carrying Ruksar in his arms in Zara's imagination. Now this is something that I cannot stomach. Why do you even come up with scenes Mr. Ghai?





I get you, but if the nikkah has to be invalidated due to iddah, then they should have done this by now.
If zara will figure out this loophole then not only kabeer is dumb but qazi also.
Ya to abhi tak jo ho rha tha vo without board involvement hota.
Kabeer ke character ko to jo mann karta hai kardete hain.
Why i want humdaan alive is because this will show that rukhsaar is irreedamable.
She knows she is doing sins but doesnt care at all.
They have dragged it too much.

I dont mind that thumb game and kabeer carrying her as this is just to show zara insecurities.
But jo overlydragged suhag raat thi vo nai hona chaiye tha.
Everyone is praising that kabeer was doing dua all the time in twitter. Instead they should have also shown that how he get into that room. His misery should have started long before. Not when she was trying to come near to him. His confusion and hesitance to even enter the room.
I will not be surprised if they mishandled that sharbat poison thing also.
Itne loopholes hain. I want to see today episode when she will be falling but i ll skip her non sensical dialogues.
Plus i want to see how kabeer will reassure zara today.
Kabeer unconvincing lagta hai ab merko
Pehle bhi kam hi lagta tha ab to bilkul bhi nai lagta convincing.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: amberyall

so totally agree with you "beastmaster"


Thank u dear 😊
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Posted: 6 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Puruuu

I genuinely thought that with this nikaah information coming out.
Ayesha reema imran kabeer ko sunanyenge but nothing happend.

Alina bhi time paas karti hai.
She fears marriage because of what her brother has done with zara.
Kabeer ko koi sunata kyun nai hai. Alina ko bolna chaiye apne bhai ko, i mean would these ahmesd have accepted if this would have happen with alina.
Kya kabeer kuch nai karta tab

And even if things are trying to sort out in the leads now but zara should not take her khula back till rukhsaar chapter is over.
Khula ki talwaar ab kabeer par honi chaiye jaise talaq ka darr zara par tha
Ek vajah dedi jayaz to bas she is gone out of his life.

I dont understand people on twitter, they love kabeer so much that all they do is justify his doings.



That's the thing, your MIL can love you but when it comes to picking sides most of them will choose their own sons over their DILs. No one can empathise with your situation more than your own mother. Ayesha was concerned more for her son than Zara. That's why I prefer Salma. She might be strict with Zara but her daughter's wellbeing is her top priority.

I wish Zara had an elder brother who could thrash Kabeer for breaking his darling sister's heart. Qazi saab se toh kuch hota nahi hai.

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