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Posted: 6 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: ananhita

Zara and kabeer are not completely divorced yet, can kabeer still marry another woman without the third talak?


The short answer would be yes.
They don't need a third divorce to marry other people if the idda time passes and kabeer doesn't revoke the talaq she is free to marry if she wishes they are considered divorced third time just means she is no longer his wife permanently he can't return her or remarry her she has to be married to someone else if the marriage fails or the husband dies she would be able to go back to him if they choose . But as of now they are pending divorced unless that idda period passed too if the idda is over he has to have a new nikah with people to witness the marriage but still counts as second talaq. Even if they weren't divorced he could still marry but that's opening a whole new can of worms highly doubt they will go that route unless they want a tremendous uproar
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Houstonmom


The short answer would be yes.
They don't need a third divorce to marry other people if the idda time passes and kabeer doesn't revoke the talaq she is free to marry if she wishes they are considered divorced third time just means she is no longer his wife permanently he can't return her or remarry her she has to be married to someone else if the marriage fails or the husband dies she would be able to go back to him if they choose . But as of now they are pending divorced unless that idda period passed too if the idda is over he has to have a new nikah with people to witness the marriage but still counts as second talaq. Even if they weren't divorced he could still marry but that's opening a whole new can of worms highly doubt they will go that route unless they want a tremendous uproar


Exactly...this are all gossips and nothing else... yesterday spoiler was kabir and Rukhsar nikah... today they have added Zara's pregnancy...
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Posted: 6 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Sanjhari


Exactly...this are all gossips and nothing else... yesterday spoiler was kabir and Rukhsar nikah... today they have added Zara's pregnancy...


It's honestly becoming a joke now. Something that they started off so beautifully and well written is going all haywire with all this nonsense.

But one thing I disliked is that we just got few (2-3 episodes) of some good moments before they jumped back into the next problem.

But I'm wondering if anyone will remind the two of them that they are still divorced?

I mean they should have atleast got married before Kabir leaves for Dubai.

I'm actually surprised Hamdaan kept her with him for so long considering her obsession with Kabir.

And I'm wondering how does Kabir get her freed as Dubai police is quite strict in such matters and won't tolerate anyone not getting the justice.

Or does Ruksaar have contacts there too and this all is just a whole big trap to lure Kabir from his marriage before they get remarried?

It can be that Zeenat is along with her sister and is acting all this.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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The fishy thing is that it all started after that stupid inspector showed wedding card to Miraj
If it's their plan, anything can happen
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sanjhari

The fishy thing is that it all started after that stupid inspector showed wedding card to Miraj
If it's their plan, anything can happen


I haven't watched the episode.. which inspector showed him the card?

As in the main head who usually reprimanded imran and Reema saying let them do their work?

I wonder when will someone make link and discover that it was Ruksaar who planted Miraj in the first place and that both need to be eliminated. And what's with Kashan character? Why is he even on screen? He is barely present and he can't even contribute to anything nor make his wife understand
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chillichick


It's honestly becoming a joke now. Something that they started off so beautifully and well written is going all haywire with all this nonsense.

But one thing I disliked is that we just got few (2-3 episodes) of some good moments before they jumped back into the next problem.

But I'm wondering if anyone will remind the two of them that they are still divorced?

I mean they should have atleast got married before Kabir leaves for Dubai.

I'm actually surprised Hamdaan kept her with him for so long considering her obsession with Kabir.

And I'm wondering how does Kabir get her freed as Dubai police is quite strict in such matters and won't tolerate anyone not getting the justice.

Or does Ruksaar have contacts there too and this all is just a whole big trap to lure Kabir from his marriage before they get remarried?

It can be that Zeenat is along with her sister and is acting all this.




Here I have a random thought that they would drag this track fro the next 30 days of their Talaq... before their 2nd marriage. This is again to create the adrenal Rush for the 3 Talaq and Time Bomb...

Else Kabeer don't need to show Concern to Ruksar. Anyone showing any big concern for Ruksar is so very surprising. It doesn't end with her trying to kill Zara and put false allegation on Kabeer.

She agreed for this marriage as an option to have a better life rather be in jail. Now she is more than a Murderer. Siraj died bcoz of her. Attempt to murder on Zara. Responsible for Nilofer death. Miraj in-planting; actual intention is death of Zara.

She planted Nilofer and Miraj. Bcoz of Miraj what all happened. Zara Almost died. Kabeer and Zara where held as Captive. Hasmi and Miraj want to kill both of them and to kill Shabaz as well. So WHY WHY WHY WHY... UNACCEPTABLE...

I am sure Shabaz would be careful here at least. Shabaz is always Careful, calculative and Cunning. Don't Shabaz Know about zeenath and Ruksar. I am telling this from the beginning Shabaz never wanted Ruksar as his Bahu. Also I am sure somewhere He would Play his cards to swoosh Ruksar from his Family. He now knows how dangerous Ruksar could be No How dangerous she is . Kabeer was always shown as a dumb idiot.

I want ruksar to go jail and thrown in an asylum.

Not just Dubai but from Any middle eastern countries Police are too Strict. A person commiting a crime and escaping in any which was is not possible. That too when it comes to foreigner.

So its a big Joke and a blooper that Kabeer go and Bring Ruksar from the Police and that too a Life sentence accused.

Its better we forgive the creatives for this mess.. and Blooper. They might not have though something better. Ok we forgive you... Ruksar is back here... Accused, Answerable to Hamdan and Family. Widow ... Has to observe iddha. Before that She has to clean this accusation on her for killing Hamdan. Even for domestic Violence she cant kill him right. She can make a police complaint. Murder is a Murder.

Also she have a Previous history of Murder attempt on Zara. So Ruksar is not an innocent. Deadly women have connections with killers and Smugglers... Shabaz wants such a Bahu. Zeenath Zeenath... See how innocent your sister is...if someone comes in her way she would kill that person. Bole bale... Ladki...






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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheerinbanu




Here I have a random thought that they would drag this track fro the next 30 days of their Talaq... before their 2nd marriage. This is again to create the adrenal Rush for the 3 Talaq and Time Bomb...

Else Kabeer don't need to show Concern to Ruksar. Anyone showing any big concern for Ruksar is so very surprising. It doesn't end with her trying to kill Zara and put false allegation on Kabeer.

She agreed for this marriage as an option to have a better life rather be in jail. Now she is more than a Murderer. Siraj died bcoz of her. Attempt to murder on Zara. Responsible for Nilofer death. Miraj in-planting; actual intention is death of Zara.

She planted Nilofer and Miraj. Bcoz of Miraj what all happened. Zara Almost died. Kabeer and Zara where held as Captive. Hasmi and Miraj want to kill both of them and to kill Shabaz as well. So WHY WHY WHY WHY... UNACCEPTABLE...

I am sure Shabaz would be careful here at least. Shabaz is always Careful, calculative and Cunning. Don't Shabaz Know about zeenath and Ruksar. I am telling this from the beginning Shabaz never wanted Ruksar as his Bahu. Also I am sure somewhere He would Play his cards to swoosh Ruksar from his Family. He now knows how dangerous Ruksar could be No How dangerous she is . Kabeer was always shown as a dumb idiot.

I want ruksar to go jail and thrown in an asylum.

Not just Dubai but from Any middle eastern countries Police are too Strict. A person commiting a crime and escaping in any which was is not possible. That too when it comes to foreigner.

So its a big Joke and a blooper that Kabeer go and Bring Ruksar from the Police and that too a Life sentence accused.

Its better we forgive the creatives for this mess.. and Blooper. They might not have though something better. Ok we forgive you... Ruksar is back here... Accused, Answerable to Hamdan and Family. Widow ... Has to observe iddha. Before that She has to clean this accusation on her for killing Hamdan. Even for domestic Violence she cant kill him right. She can make a police complaint. Murder is a Murder.

Also she have a Previous history of Murder attempt on Zara. So Ruksar is not an innocent. Deadly women have connections with killers and Smugglers... Shabaz wants such a Bahu. Zeenath Zeenath... See how innocent your sister is...if someone comes in her way she would kill that person. Bole bale... Ladki...




If the writers ever want to give justice to what all Kabir and Zara have suffered, the best they can do is by disowning Zeenat as bahu and permanently cutting ties with Ruksaar.

This is the best punishment Zeenat can be given.

She is always flying high as she is the bahu and no one can say anything to her but the moment her deeds are out and the family disowns her, it'll be fun to see her start out on her own.

The actual reaction by each of the family member except Zeenat should have been like - what's new in this?

I mean practically she's a loose psychopath who honestly needs to be treated to. Her instinct to kill anything and anyone who come in her way is not normal.

Just because the writers want to create the rush of the ticking bomb of divorce they'll give us viewers endless days of torture but in 2 days they'll wrap up the good times and the romance as they dive into their next journey..

Let's hope Shahbaz surprises us this time too and finds a way to protect Zara and Kabir or rather Kabir's chance at becoming Sheher Qazi.

Technically Ruksaar is the biggest enemy as all the others are just her offshoots. All were created and planted by her in some way or the other.

And Zeenat is blaming Kabir and Zara that they married her sister into such a family and place but what about the fact that her sister is hell bent on self destruction?

And didn't Zeenat too agree that Hamdan was a good guy, else would she let this marriage happen?

Writers, creators hope they actually see some reason and logic and give us something different other than the usual age old fighting villians and then recreating them.

This soap has a lot of potential and it shouldn't waste it on such trivial matters.

Sure in real life we do encounter villians/enemies but not on such a basis where our lives are threatened and few others are killed in the process
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Posted: 6 years ago
#28
Has everyone gotten amnesia and forgotten what she's done. And Kabeer? Seriously man! Why is he going? Kashaan and Zeenat should be the ones going to save her. He's more of her relative than Kabeer.
Kashaan's presence should have some reason and this could be it. It seems odd that Zeenat would be flying with Kabeer instead of Kashaan.

CVs want Rukhsar back, but damn they could have waited until after ZK were married.
I've said this in another post of mine, other shows have marriages/remarriages going on for weeks.

One rasm of theirs would take a week at least, I loved ISA for not dragging as watching one track happening for weeks is repetitive and boring but their remarriage rasms could have gone for at least one or two days. We only got like 15 minutes of the mendhi *rolling eyes*

2 days of happiness is so less compared to the next couple of weeks of having to jhelofy Rukhsar and her drama.

I really really don't want ZK going through the third divorce nor Kabeer marrying Rukhsar. That would kill ISA for me.
That track of a man having two wives and crap is so repetitive, boring and stupid. ETAs and two wives thing is being glorified in the name of romance. ISA was the only drama I'd hooked onto after 7 years because of the concept, story and characters. I'd be so annoyed if they kill ISA by getting Kabeer married to another whilst still being married to Zara.

I know in Islam they're allowed to do second marriages an all, but there has to be strong reasoning behind it and Rukhsar still has to do Iddat of 4 months and 10 days. I hope she's pregnant so it would be nearly a year of Iddat.

Anyway, in my view and the society surrounding me, these days modern Muslim men don't think of second or third wife thing. In the older generation second and third wife was more common than now. Nowadays it's divorce over the silliest reasons.

P.S - no offence to anyone.
Edited by LilMissBossy - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: LilMissBossy

Has everyone gotten amnesia and forgotten what she's done. And Kabeer? Seriously man! Why is he going? Kashaan and Zeenat should be the ones going to save her. He's more of her relative than Kabeer.
Kashaan's presence should have some reason and this could be it. It seems odd that Zeenat would be flying with Kabeer instead of Kashaan.

CVs want Rukhsar back, but damn they could have waited until after ZK were married.
I've said this in another post of mine, other shows have marriages/remarriages going on for weeks.

One rasm of theirs would take a week at least, I loved ISA for not dragging as watching one track happening for weeks is repetitive and boring but their remarriage rasms could have gone for at least one or two days. We only got like 15 minutes of the mendhi *rolling eyes*

2 days of happiness is so less compared to the next couple of weeks of having to jhelofy Rukhsar and her drama.

I really really don't want ZK going through the third divorce nor Kabeer marrying Rukhsar. That would kill ISA for me.
That track of a man having two wives and crap is so repetitive, boring and stupid. ETAs and two wives thing is being glorified in the name of romance. ISA was the only drama I'd hooked onto after 7 years because of the concept, story and characters. I'd be so annoyed if they kill ISA by getting Kabeer married to another whilst still being married to Zara.

I know in Islam they're allowed to do second marriages an all, but there has to be strong reasoning behind it and Rukhsar still has to do Iddat of 4 months and 10 days. I hope she's pregnant so it would be nearly a year of Iddat.

Anyway, in my view and the society surrounding me, these days modern Muslim men don't think of second or third wife thing. In the older generation second and third wife was more common than now. Nowadays it's divorce over the silliest reasons.

P.S - no offence to anyone.


Sweetheart never apologize for giving your opinion 😊
Pretty sure this psychopath will kill her own unborn child if it means staying away from kabeer even longer. Almost positive this Dubai trip a trap! Up until now no one makes any connections to any crimes unless the villain admits it himself even then they don't have a recording to prove it . What I hate most is the writers changing their minds every few episodes. After the first talaq kabeer took Zara back the night before their time was up. Never consummated the marriage but he clearly said it verbally. Then all of a sudden they are forced into a second talaq as if the reunion never happened. They they drove us crazy with the 7 day time frame for the second talaq if kabeer could prove her innocence with in 7 days . 7 days for reducing magically into 5 and low and behold they are devorced against their will someone please explain to my tiny brain how someone can have a conditional timed talaq that happens against the couples will? He has to tell her I so and so devorce my wife ... of course that never happened and Zeenet apparently is the score board holder judging when the day starts and finishes saying the Islamic day is over at sunset. Come on seriously 😳 . Ok what ever we moved on they are in love and want to continue enjoying the functions acting so inlove not wanting to mess up each other's names that are so precious till he gets a call from his long lost friend that has them jumping through hoops of fire this whole time absentmindedly rubbing off the henna onto his cloths as if it's dirt 😡 to add insult to injury he defends ruksaar asking why would she do this? 😕 😳 was he in acomma when Zara proved to him that ruksaar tried to damage her reputation ,get her kidnapped and when all else failed tried kill her . Forget that what about the fact that she tried to rape him personally? Nope ruksaar isn't capable of murdering her husband at all poor thing is being framed 😡 .
If they add polygamy to this circus that's it beautiful story down the drain.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: Houstonmom


Sweetheart never apologize for giving your opinion 😊
Pretty sure this psychopath will kill her own unborn child if it means staying away from kabeer even longer. Almost positive this Dubai trip a trap! Up until now no one makes any connections to any crimes unless the villain admits it himself even then they don't have a recording to prove it . What I hate most is the writers changing their minds every few episodes. After the first talaq kabeer took Zara back the night before their time was up. Never consummated the marriage but he clearly said it verbally. Then all of a sudden they are forced into a second talaq as if the reunion never happened. They they drove us crazy with the 7 day time frame for the second talaq if kabeer could prove her innocence with in 7 days . 7 days for reducing magically into 5 and low and behold they are devorced against their will someone please explain to my tiny brain how someone can have a conditional timed talaq that happens against the couples will? He has to tell her I so and so devorce my wife ... of course that never happened and Zeenet apparently is the score board holder judging when the day starts and finishes saying the Islamic day is over at sunset. Come on seriously 😳 . Ok what ever we moved on they are in love and want to continue enjoying the functions acting so inlove not wanting to mess up each other's names that are so precious till he gets a call from his long lost friend that has them jumping through hoops of fire this whole time absentmindedly rubbing off the henna onto his cloths as if it's dirt 😡 to add insult to injury he defends ruksaar asking why would she do this? 😕 😳 was he in acomma when Zara proved to him that ruksaar tried to damage her reputation ,get her kidnapped and when all else failed tried kill her . Forget that what about the fact that she tried to rape him personally? Nope ruksaar isn't capable of murdering her husband at all poor thing is being framed 😡 .
If they add polygamy to this circus that's it beautiful story down the drain.



This is something which confused me. If Kabeer had been raazi in that Eid episode and accepted Zara back, I had assumed that would mean first talaq is cancelled as some of the things I had read the man could either say it verbally or consummating once again. Either way, the first talaq is cancelled.

So it was confusing when they said this is second talaq.

Talaq is very tricky and they should really done a lot more research. I had searched up time-bound talaq to see if there was such a thing but could not find anything.

I've read a few hadiths and the translation which state that talaq said out aloud in the form of anger, coercion and something else is not considered a talaq.

That's the thing, ISA have not tied loose ends whichever track they have brought. They seem to leave it open ended. I had thought Zara might tie up the dots as she doubted Miraj and after the revelation of Rukhsar would have them doubting Miraj as she had invited him to invest in Kabeer's project. But no one has a light bulb moment and accept anyone and everyone into their homes and allow them to stay.

I was annoyed when Kabeer offered to keep Miraj in their home, fair enough he's a friend but given he's a maulvi and there is na mehram women in the home I would have liked for him to not offer him a place to stay.

I really want the Rukhsar and Miraj drama to end already. I really wished Zara had spoken up after their honeymoon and had Rukhsar kicked out of the house. Or I'd have liked they show Zeenat taking a stand and making Rukhsar see sense, she's been the daughter in law for many years she should have learned by now that she should not mess with Shahbaz Ahmed or Kabeer.

Seriously, what is the purpose of Kashaan?




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