Really upset with some of the viewer's response

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Posted: 7 years ago
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On the matter of women having the right to pray in mosque, and that too, separate from men, is correct, hence zara is right. I just want to point out islam's true rulings on this. Islam gives women the right to enter the mosque to offer their prayers, but women must have a separate prayer area in the mosque from men. Also islam says that it is preferred for a woman to pray at her home for her own convenience as women do household chores and everything plus if she wants to take her own safety of stepping out of the house into account, but it is permissible for a woman to pray at the mosque regardless as allah does not prohibit women from his holy house.

The reason why I am saying this is because it actually angers me to see people on youtube and on social media commenting that kabeer is right and zara is wrong. It makes me think "What islam have you people even been learning all these years?" If there is anybody here thinking that kabeer is right too, or if you see anybody on social media commenting that kabeer is right, please do ask them which islam have they been studying all these years, and tell them the above correct rulings on this issue. I'm just getting sick and tired of modern day muslim men pulling apart islamic teachings and only choosing to interpret and practice one part of the teachings of islam without taking all the wordings and rulings into account. Modern day muslims seem to pick and choose which parts of islam they want to believe and practise, and quite often, it is done in a way to take muslim women's rights or to prohibit them in a way islam and neither allah has.

Unfortunately, most mosques nowadays are also ignoring and forgetting the true ruling on this issue and don't even make facilities for women to pray in. Personally, you don't get the same peace and happiness from praying namaaz at home as you do in the masjid. If islam has given women rights, why are modern day muslim men somehow misinterpreting or ignoring certain rulings in order to prohibit women in ways islam doesn't? it's wrong and I'm happy that this track and this show seems to have properly researched islamic teachings. I wish I could say the same for a lot of the muslim viewers watching the show who are against some of the things they are showing in the show despite clearly not having accurate knowledge on islam themselves.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great post.
I definitely agree that Zara is right.
But i dont understand Kabeer's problem here. he being a sensible maulvi, should keep his ego aside and focus on the valid points that Zara is laying out.

but lets just wait for the episode to air rather than jumping to conclusions here.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think they are both right.
I know it's cus I always see two sides if the story. But kabeer is right because he wants to protect her (all those ruks Saazish's/ siraj-ghazal fiasco/ that Dhaka from the precap) all this is getting too much. He is right to the certain extent in his attempts to protect her, he's wrong for stopping her when Allah hasn't stopped her.

And zara is also right but in terms of getting her rights and completing her wishes to pray in the mosque. But they dont need to make this such a big issue they could sort it out between themselves. No need to drag the fam in this. She should do What she thinks is right according to God's Words but keep her safety in mind.

But Idk why this track and views are reminding me of that sunnahand farz convo from the HM track. If praying in mosques isn't farz on women why are they fighting. Cant they calmly put their views across like how she explained to kabeer about sunnqh and farz.

Looking forward to this track!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@TM👏

#RightToPray -it's a broader fight


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: aqua.m7

I think they are both right.

I know it's cus I always see two sides if the story. But kabeer is right because he wants to protect her (all those ruks Saazish's/ siraj-ghazal fiasco/ that Dhaka from the precap) all this is getting too much. He is right to the certain extent in his attempts to protect her, he's wrong for stopping her when Allah hasn't stopped her.

And zara is also right but in terms of getting her rights and completing her wishes to pray in the mosque. But they dont need to make this such a big issue they could sort it out between themselves. No need to drag the fam in this. She should do What she thinks is right according to God's Words but keep her safety in mind.

But Idk why this track and views are reminding me of that sunnahand farz convo from the HM track. If praying in mosques isn't farz on women why are they fighting. Cant they calmly put their views across like how she explained to kabeer about sunnqh and farz.

Looking forward to this track!


The sawaab (reward) of praying in mosque is far greater than praying at home, but because islam takes women's safety, responsibilities and health into account, a woman gets just as much reward by praying in the home. However, islam never takes the right of entering a mosque to offer her prayer in a house of allah (mosque) away from a woman, but merely gives women more options and leniency when it comes to offering prayers than men, hence why islam gives women the option of praying at home and still getting the same sawaab as men who pray at mosque. But as I said, a mosque is the house of allah, and you feel peace there and closer to the almighty, so why would a woman not want to offer her prayers in a mosque due to the spiritual ambience of a mosque, and islam would never refuse and prohibit its worshippers from the mosque, especially not on the basis of gender, but men know that women can't pray anyways when on their periods, especially that women can't go to mosque during that time, so somehow they believe that women aren't allowed in mosque at all, whether they are on their periods or not.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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^well said!
Men and their thinking!😡😡

I'm just wondering r there women only praying areas in mosques in India? Because if so this wouldnt have become a full blown fight

I know there are mosques in my country that have women only praying areas, I've prayed there.

If anyone wants to pray they go and pray, I don't get why kabeer is saying "you want to be a leader" dude she's not saying she wants to lead the prayers.

So separation is on the cards?

P.s I've seen you in the kdb forum. We haven't really spoken before but I always stalked your great posts lol😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Excellent post.


The basic issue with all the propaganda regarding Islam is that its only misrepresented by men. The only translations of Quran available are by men, the only detailed descriptions are by men . Its the Quran that has given such clear cut rights to women that even a male narrative cannot twist them, but a lot of minor issues, e.g sharing a mosque have been manipulated by religious leaders and politicians for personal gains, and the sad part is the public, without learning and educating themselves follow these people.

This topic has been wonderfully presented in ISA. Islam has given a leverage to muslim women to pray at home, but its NOT a compulsion! .. They are allowed to pray in mosques, i loved Zara's argument .. na parhne main .. aur na parh sakne main farq hai .. unhain ijazat honi chaiye, us k baad wo parhen na parhen unki marzi ..

Thats the hit point !! .. Islam has given them a right and men cannot thake that away .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yup that's true about the mosque in London. Haven't seen it yet.
Aww no need to say thanks,
You, kinza and nandini come up with the best posts on this forum!
And back in the kdb forum I loved how you grilled punnu and his idiotic behaviour.😆😆

Btw r u in India? Or the UK? Just asking cus I wanna confirm whether Eid is tomorrow or not? Lol my mum's got her seeviyan prep ready😆
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