Why do people like Vansh exactly? - Page 2

Rrahul’s character is the only one properly formed. He has reasons for his behaviour. We may not like those reasons but do they exist.

I think the issue lies with the writers and their inability to get the audience to care for Riddhima and Kabir. There is no reason given other than Vansh is a criminal. There are many criminals in the world. Why does this one matter so much? If the audience doesn’t understand the motives there’s no way they will relate to or like the character.

I enjoy the show for the riansh chemistry and I want to know the actual story because there has to be one.

Originally posted by: Lipstickqueen

Rrahul’s character is the only one properly formed. He has reasons for his behaviour. We may not like those reasons but do they exist.

I think the issue lies with the writers and their inability to get the audience to care for Riddhima and Kabir. There is no reason given other than Vansh is a criminal. There are many criminals in the world. Why does this one matter so much? If the audience doesn’t understand the motives there’s no way they will relate to or like the character.

I enjoy the show for the riansh chemistry and I want to know the actual story because there has to be one.

@bold

Exactly my point if anyone fail to understand the storylines then what can we do

After all it's a story about a Maphia not some random love story 🤔 So you have to understand the basic differences and pls don't mix the real and reel story . We audience should understand that vansh is just a fictional character . So chill guys 😎

Two word answer: Guilty Pleasure. 😆

There are 3 kinds of heroes who have been ruling ITV since the past 5-7 years:

1. The rich, toxic, grey shaded anti-hero, that man-handles the heroine until she changes him to a softer guy. Such men are generally good with their own family but they love to harass, torture and semi-molest the heroine till cupid strikes. Forced marriages are also a common trope. Usually very handsome actors are roped in to play these parts so that s*xual tension can be created between the lead pair which the audience love to watch.

Eg. Arnab Singh Raizada (IPKKND), Shivay Singh Oberoi (IB), Akbar (JA), Uma (TSMSP), etc.

Vansh belongs to this category, though he hasnt man-handled his wife yet.

2. Goody, goody, over-mahaan heroes that would do anything for their either bratty or ambitious wives. Usually average looking talented actors are roped in to play these roles.

Eg. Suraj (DAB), Ishaan (Sasural Genda Phool), etc.

3. Rich, handsome, cool dude + spoilt brat who womanises but doesn't molest. Basically, a loveable jerk.

Eg. Rudra from IB.

There are many other types as well like Ruhaan from Silsila, Anurag from Kasauti Zindagi Kay 2, etc. but the above 3 are the main categories. Thus, naturally, the Indian audience that comprises a huge number of young women prefer the edgy good-looking, rich toxic male and loveable jerk over the nice, simple guy next door heroes.

I have rarely seen balanced heroes in a Hindi show. There was one show named Raja Beta which starred the same actor Rrahul Sudhir who plays Vansh. There, the guy was handsome, rich, a doctor and a nice guy with a spine. And that show didnt get past a little over 200 episodes, and the forum of that show has barely 3 pages. Imagine, it is the same guy Rrahul Sudhir! This goes to show that grey, anti-heroes are more in demand than good, nice guys.

Now, coming back to Vansh, why do people like him?

It is the X-factor.

Personally, I'd never marry a guy like that. He is a criminal. But the overall presentation of the character is cool. He is sharp, witty, interesting. I agree that his dialogues are sometimes OTT and at times, Rrahul Sudhir hams. The guy has immense potential, he was excellent in Raja Beta and Twisted 2, but here the role demands him to be larger than life which he sometimes messes up. But overall, he has a great screen presence, fantastic voice and awesome chemistry with the female lead. The s*xual tension between the two characters is palpable. This is what has earned Vansh so many fans.

Afterall these cheesy ITV shows are all about entertainment, and even though none of us would marry a Vansha in real life, it gives people guilty pleasure. 😆

Originally posted by: Rein123

I just started watching the show and I already get that everything here is just so over the top for a thriller as compared to season 1. Now coming to Vansh, his dialogues are just blah... his character is like the usual abusive Male lead that treats the female lead like a punching bag, classic case of a toxic relationship. What exactly do people like about him and why is he being glorified exactly? He is a criminal, kills people mercilessly and is ruthless. He seems to be borderline negative yet people find that hot???

And Ridhima is so weird, just because her boyfriend asked her to go and infiltrate VRS house and marry him, she agreed to do so? Like marriage is a big joke and that guy Kabir claims to love Ridhima but he actually made her participate in his crazy pursuit of VRS and endangered her life. All the three characters are so messed up.

Did someone said Kabir is bad bcoz of his Vansh obsession?? No right !! so far now we don't know what exactly is the problem between Kabir and Vansh so, no comments on that but using Riddhi as a pawn is just damn Selfish of Kabir. Kabir is taking his professional fight as personal which is def not the way to do ur job...

Vansh who is Smuggler should be Ruthless and Heartless but as per the story till now its clearly evident that he has certain Values and will follow it no matter what, one of them is Family and Trust. Vansh is someone who will not hurt anyone unless they start it, Just like Riddhi did he hurt her in the first place ?? No it was Riddhi herself who became a part of his family just seek revenge for her so called bachkana pyaar..

Vansh has been shown as a criminal but so far what do we know about his criminal activities and the extent of it ???Nothing much

For me i like Vansh for his Smartness and transparency compared to Kabir and Riddhi..

Bcz he is thorough Gentlemen u see 😎😆

He is the star of IMMJ like Deep was even better Everything abt him attracts not to forget his good looks ☺️ his personality his secretive nature his smart thinking ability to sense danger before it occurs and by the way who said he is criminal 🤔 o wait That dumb nut shell Kabir 🤪 Do I viewer look like Ridima to you 🤣

Honest opinion Abt show when I first saw promo I didn’t liked it neither I was attracted to watch it in the first place the pair looked 👎🏼 to me but I always do give it a shot wats in store in the show for us viewers 👍🏼 when I watched Kabir be it good or bad actor didn’t got that charm that we love to watch n appraise on the other hand Vansh made entry I loved it Car scene was

Than seeing both pair scenes my root for Riansh 👍🏼only rid bir 👎🏼 🤢 It’s like low class versus high class 😆

It’s not yet disclosed whether Vansh is actually criminal or not but considering the fact show spark n charm is Vansh Rai Singhania hope to see him not 👍🏼

I like Vansh and Ridima as a pair their onscreen different personality attracts their chemistry the scenes just makes me want more.

Vansh is one character I want to know about his past his journey to win over his enemies 👍🏼

Originally posted by: AbhayKapoor12

I don't get why do people owe explanation to others and get judged for what they like or not?

If someome loves vansh, they are entitled to and don't owe you any answer.

If someone like kabir, they don't owe any answer to me because i don't like that guy.

If someone like ridz , they don't owe any answer to someone who don't like her

Still i will tell you.

I like Rrahul's acting and his dialogue delivery. They way he speaks them and i like the dialogues. Different perspective.

I can differentiate between fiction and reality. And i like grey leads. I wish they make ridhima some grey role too , but she is your typical ott female lead. I don't associate my morals with a drama and it's characters. I see fiction as fiction.

Infact he is much better than kabir who sold out his gf for mission.

I loved murderer Mohana from nazar who ate her husband and then wanted her son's life.

I loved shesha from naagin the most who killed her sister for a guy.

So i like ur so called abusive, toxic leads. I don't find them abusive. They are just interesting to me than simple characters. If i want to watch simple characters, i can watch any crap.

Vansh is neutral to his character sketch. He is mafia don for lord sake. Mafias can do anything without caring about law. And the only one he killed was female officer who in turn wanted to get him caught or killed. Although it is not even sure so far. It was fair game. Tit for tat.

It was kabir and ridhima who came into his life, his house. Did he sent them invitation to come ?

Ridhima had chance to run but she got married for her lame boyfriend. The same cop who was ready to sell his partner for mission.

Vansh is true to his role as mafia. I must say pretty tame. Mafias don't give you chances. But the other 2 characters are far worse.

Anyways people should leave their judgement on others and stop demanding explanations from them, why does they like someone or not.

Thank u.

I’m not judging you, if you like Vansh or Kabir that’s fine, I’m just trying to understand what is so great about him as a character and how exactly is he different from the usual typical guy that treats people like objects and punching bags and how exactly do people even find him opposite a simple girl romantic when in all manners it’s... never mind.

Mohona was a daayan, she was never expected to love anyone or not was she glorified in any manner. And no Mohana was negative not grey.

@bold yeah they can, that’s why we call them criminals. And also the fact that Vansh gives Riddhima way too many chances is what makes him laughable. If he was actually true to his role he would have just kicked her out unless he believes in keeping his enemies closer, but given how he eliminates them this is very inconsistent with his character. And I never said that the other 2 characters are better in fact I have also said that they are worse given that they are the protagonists.

I have been a fan of several grey characters too, I liked Maya from Beyhadh 2, but the only thing is she was driven by a purpose and that was revenge.

I liked Damon from the vampire diaries too inspite of him killing so many humans because from what I understand that wasn’t him but his biological nature that forced him to do so in order to survive and not get killed by others.

I liked Shesha in the beginning but the minute she betrayed Shivanya I lost all respect for her, and she was never grey but negative towards the end.

If you like such characters just because of the actors screen presence then I can’t say much.

Originally posted by: s_lover

This is the first post from me on this forum.

First let me ask you some questions because I am curious to know did I missed something. where it was mentioned he killed so many people? How you know that so called agent team is really working for country? Where it was mentioned that he is traitor for country? When he behaved abusive or manhandled female lead? I never saw him pushing and pulling like so called male leads on ITV

When did Vansh abuse as in verbally or mentally abuse Riddhima? All the time unless you can’t see it even though it’s right in front of you.

You never saw him push or pull her down? I literally saw him aim a knife at her. Forcefully marry her and what else do I need to add exactly,

How do I know that so called agent is working for the country? I don’t, maybe he is not, and your point is what exactly? I don’t like Kabir either.

Where it was mentioned that Vansh is a traitor? He himself said it when Kabir went to raid his boats, and then one of his men who consumed poison just to avoid talking because according to him, if he were to become a witness against him, Vansh would make his life a living hell. He pushed Neha down the tower, so that amounts to murder and Aryan his brother calls his deals cold blooded so you can guess what it hints towards.

Well not much to write for me.I think everyone has their own likes & dislikes with strong sentiments from both the sides=FOR & AGAINST.

Characters whether grey/positive or negative & even neutral are the products of every writer's imagination.Such authors can get inspired from the overall society around us or from the thriller/romance books of well known authors.

Yes Grey characters have their own appeal & they cannot be specified under one category.They might be Psychopaths or just heartless with normal behaviours.In real lives such kind of people have been successful too whether in corporates or cut-throat politics.However their unpredictable nature around people & criminal activities puts them into the long arms of the law deservedly.One thing I forgot to mention that they exist within the Underworld too eulogized in Bollywood/Hollywood through movies like Godfather or Once Upon a Time in Mumbai or through TV series like Narcos.

So such kind of people are good in the fictional world & not real life.Women might be able to change them through their love in fiction but perhaps not in real life.

If such kind of people were to exist in real life then we need women of independent streak bold enough like Anika/Ridzi or Swara who are assertive & possess special qualities.Fate must play its part too-God's Blessing.

Shivaay changed due to Anika who made him saw that there's more to money/Power or status in life.Sanskaar's misconceptions were perhaps cleared by Swara & love blossomed between them.

Shaurya's life got completely changed due to the entry of Mehak but his unpredictability caused cracks within their relationship.

As for whether Grey ML's love their spouses.Yes Shivaay loved Anika intensely but lost her many times due to his stupidity.Ansh of Nazar was not that kind of a grey character inspite of being a Davansh but had his own shades including Supernatural powers.Ansh loved Piya but even he lost her twice due to his thick head.

Even Ajay of the Baazigar loved Priya but killed Seema for his revenge purpose which was never morally valid.

Not every ML is Maahir or Ritik who loved their wives blindly even though they might be avenger Naagins out to destroy their families-Shivanya & Bela.

We have grey shaders on the female side too like Maya of Beyhadh or Durga of EHT along with the Pooja of Sarvagunn Sambhava.

VR has stated that he will be like Ridzi's shadow yesterday during that Dora tying scene.Arohi's love failed to change Deep can Ridzi's love do the trick?

VR is his own guy with his own cruel mindset.He's secretive about his past & intentions both.Mafias like him don't change their stripes completely.Love can cause only subtle changes.

Vansh like Deep is both complex & hot-headed.He sees things as per his own whims.Ridzi has to work hard to change him.The Spy has to unlock Mafia's true heart embedded within the cold body.

If we tried to find logic while Watching drama then why its faclled fiction Vansh Ridz kabeer are just an outcome of writer imagination in reality to do spying u don't send an untrained girl and A mavia guy won't let her enter this simply. Three characters are depicted with two faces no one of them are pure K has his selfish motives Ridi is foul in love V is a dark Grey character. But is this their truth or this what the writer want us to believe about them till now. As I think each truth has two sides let all of the three true sides unfold and then we can judge and build a true assumption about them.

for me Vansh is the X factor of this show , his character is so interesting, he has so many layers not one dimentional character....and we watch for entertainment and so far his character is very entertaining.

What i like abt his character is his brain , he is shown smart bcoz in other shows sometimes they say a character is intelligent but all u see is his /her dumbness but in Immj2 Vansh is truly intelligent.And also i love his one liners.

i personally watch for fun and it should be the case for everyone ...its a fictional character it isnt going to harm anyone😂....And we should differentiate between real and reel.