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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hammie you are killing me here.my friend ...

Weekend before Christmas ...and so much to deal with. Then we get excellent episodes that I have to see and further your excellent write ups that I HAVE to respond to ...so much to talk about.

Reserving a spot... I have much to say on The Fire of an ice maiden ...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dear Hammie!!

What a great writer you are! You excel in portraying the self-thought of the characters so well. You convert, magically, the priceless and inimitable expressions of the actors into eloquent words that flow like the river ganga. These takes of yours in the past few days have excelled all expectations in their creativity and brilliance. BTW, wonderful title.

I will present a view of the composite episodes for the last few days, as promised. Excuse me, dear Hammie, and all others, if these views are repeated, and if others have already pointed them out. I was not able to read all the takes and responses with the usual care because of several factors out of my control.

The episodes of the past track was very much a modern day Ramayana on fast forward. We first had the "forest-dweller" stage where Viplav and Dhani were hiding from Trip and his men. The abduction scene was very aesthetically crafted in shadow-play, even as Viplav was practicing his love-declaration. Similarly in the traditional Ramayana, Rama is busy trying to please Sita by getting her a golden deer that she wants to have as a pet, while Ravana, the Lanka King drags Sita away. In the epic, Ramayana, Sita is abducted because she crosses a magic line drawn for her own protection by her brother-in-law. In our serial, Dhani, too, has crossed a line etched by the harsh ink of patriarchal norms of exactly how widows should live. In the epic, we have Lord Rama waging a war to rescue her from the clutches of the demon king. Sita then had to "prove" her purity by walking through fire and emerging unscathed, and now Dhani emerges unscathed from the fire of partriarchal wrath fueled by Trip and DT. In some later interpolations of the Ramayana, Sita leaves Rama after being rescued and returns to the forest because despite emerging successfully out of the fire ordeal, some of the subjects of the kingdom cast aspersions on her character. Likewise, Dhani runs away from Vip's proposal for reasons yet to be revealed. I suspect that it is a combination of first being overwhelmed, and then being indoctrinated/brainwashed by DT.

The episodes are wonderfully done, and I am quite in awe as to their quality and consistency. A few things are on my mind in general:

1. Why did Vip choose the same Shiv Mandir, the site of Dhani's terrible witch hunt, as a location to declare his love? Did that have something to do with Dhani running away?

2. I am not looking forward to the day the Trip is bailed out by DT! Imagine his wrath and his urgent need to take badla for each and every beating received by grandson and grandfather combined. What all might he do? And will he still pretend to be the underdog of DT, or will he openly become rebellious?

3. BTW Hammie, the title song is a bhajan composed by a medieval saint by the name of Saint Kabir, who hailed from Benaras, and who is revered all over India. He composed in the local dialect, which is a mix of bhojpuri and urdu. If you wish to read more about him you can do so here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabir

Urdu is spoken as a local language in several parts of North India, by everyone regardless of people's religious beliefs. The kind of urdu we speak is very much mixed with Hindi and whatever local dialect presides over any particular area. The lyrics of the song are very beautiful and haunting.

Looking forward to Monday's episode. FYI: more travel for me on Tuesday and lot of work from Friday onwards. Still wish to participate the best I can. Thank you for your patience. Have a great day!

Edited by aimf - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@ aimf

Looking forward to Monday's episode. FYI: more travel for me on Tuesday and lot of work from Friday onwards. Still wish to participate the best I can. Thank you for your patience. Have a great day!


this is sooo nooot ooonnn! you are still MIA.. ooonnnhhh..
doing a dhani.. doing a runner! ummmhh missing you.. i loved your comment got my dose of praise from you .thank you my favorite bit was that toerag trips beating scene.. will annotate your fantastic comment later on just popped by before i crashed to say, mind how you go ,come back safely to us..much love hammie
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey Hammie! Beautifully written analysis. Loved your takes and comments on the scenes.
I totally enjoyed the episode. MiSha are living up their roles as ViDha.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello Hammie.
What an amazing take on Saturday's episode. I read a lot of posts. But this is sooo dreamy. It is a piece of art. I feel like Viplav now..deeply and madly in love. Episode was gr8 just because of Viplav. Mishal Raheja gave his best to show the love Viplav has to Dhani. That proposal in the mandir was wow. Mishal's eys, smile, voice and bodylanguage ..every thing make it a true felt love confession. I wonder when this man really propose to a woman..will she be able to refuse?

I don't understand Dhani. I don't want to spoil my happiness after watching the episode and reading your amazing take on it. But you see Hammie..Dhani is stupid..why should she run away? If she loves him she will be happy? If not ..she could tell him. She was never tight lipped in front of him any time..why now? Unless ..as you assumed ..DT spoke to her before.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: aimf

Dear Hammie!!

What a great writer you are! You excel in portraying the self-thought of the characters so well. You convert, magically, the priceless and inimitable expressions of the actors into eloquent words that flow like the river ganga. These takes of yours in the past few days have excelled all expectations in their creativity and brilliance. BTW, wonderful title.

I will present a view of the composite episodes for the last few days, as promised. Excuse me, dear Hammie, and all others, if these views are repeated, and if others have already pointed them out. I was not able to read all the takes and responses with the usual care because of several factors out of my control.

The episodes of the past track was very much a modern day Ramayana on fast forward. We first had the "forest-dweller" stage where Viplav and Dhani were hiding from Trip and his men. The abduction scene was very aesthetically crafted in shadow-play, even as Viplav was practicing his love-declaration. Similarly in the traditional Ramayana, Rama is busy trying to please Sita by getting her a golden deer that she wants to have as a pet, while Ravana, the Lanka King drags Sita away. In the epic, Ramayana, Sita is abducted because she crosses a magic line drawn for her own protection by her brother-in-law. In our serial, Dhani, too, has crossed a line etched by the harsh ink of patriarchal norms of exactly how widows should live. In the epic, we have Lord Rama waging a war to rescue her from the clutches of the demon king. Sita then had to "prove" her purity by walking through fire and emerging unscathed, and now Dhani emerges unscathed from the fire of partriarchal wrath fueled by Trip and DT. In some later interpolations of the Ramayana, Sita leaves Rama after being rescued and returns to the forest because despite emerging successfully out of the fire ordeal, some of the subjects of the kingdom cast aspersions on her character. Likewise, Dhani runs away from Vip's proposal for reasons yet to be revealed. I suspect that it is a combination of first being overwhelmed, and then being indoctrinated/brainwashed by DT.

The episodes are wonderfully done, and I am quite in awe as to their quality and consistency. A few things are on my mind in general:

1. Why did Vip choose the same Shiv Mandir, the site of Dhani's terrible witch hunt, as a location to declare his love? Did that have something to do with Dhani running away?

2. I am not looking forward to the day the Trip is bailed out by DT! Imagine his wrath and his urgent need to take badla for each and every beating received by grandson and grandfather combined. What all might he do? And will he still pretend to be the underdog of DT, or will he openly become rebellious?

3. BTW Hammie, the title song is a bhajan composed by a medieval saint by the name of Saint Kabir, who hailed from Benaras, and who is revered all over India. He composed in the local dialect, which is a mix of bhojpuri and urdu. If you wish to read more about him you can do so here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabir

Urdu is spoken as a local language in several parts of North India, by everyone regardless of people's religious beliefs. The kind of urdu we speak is very much mixed with Hindi and whatever local dialect presides over any particular area. The lyrics of the song are very beautiful and haunting.

Looking forward to Monday's episode. FYI: more travel for me on Tuesday and lot of work from Friday onwards. Still wish to participate the best I can. Thank you for your patience. Have a great day!



Hi Aimf,

Wow Wonderful eye sight about Modern day Ramayana Vs Epic ramayana .. thank you for knoweledge transfer . book mark to read some of your eye sights ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@sam
Thank you so much. Absolutely love your posts too! It is nice to see you here as a regular visitor. Thanks for taking the time to drop by and comment.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: tarun1234567

wonderful analysis hammie...i thoroughly enjoyed the episode to the core...😃


yes tarun certainly my fav episode.. stupendous effect.. thanks for reading and commenting on my take tarun
love hammie
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocobrownies


hi choco..😊
What a profound way of assessment..!! Hammie..! 👏..well the episode was my inpspiration
Loved your vision for a wonderful episode..Best part of saturday's episode..VIP's priceless oath as her future wife among the crowd stole the spot ..U have expressed beautifully ongoing invisible emotions conveyed b/w DL and VT...Shawl scene looks very symbolic, inidcated upcoming changing equation b/w every status from DT to VT...we too got a most awaited confession which looks energetic yet excitable nothing goes beyond but a typical lover boy expressed his unconditional love..❤️
ohhh for sure.. may be should have called it.. "the mantle of love" loved your thoughts on it too ..thanks for commenting,mate.. much love hammie..

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sura123

Thanks Hammie for the awesome analysis. I throughly enjoyyed the episode..


hi sura..thanks for reading and commenting on it much love hammie

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