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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

I don't know this answer, and in any case, I'd like others to try it, so that it's interesting. So for now at least, I'll pass.

To your question, I think a lot of people did a partial reading of the story, and then showed him getting killed by everyone who surrounded him. BRC, for instance, showed Karna putting his sword thru him, and Shakuni then stabbing him, but that's not what happened. I haven't seen how RS SK showed it - I tend to avoid Abhimanyu vadh scenes, since he's one of my favorite characters 😭

I'm not aware on whether SB describes his killing - in fact, there is a great deal that SB misses about Krishna's Mahabharata activities. As an example, the only place Satyaki is mentioned, IIRC, is the Yadava fratricide. The Mahabharata describes in detail the relationship b/w Satyaki's grandfather Sini and Somadatta and how the former defeated the latter and prevented him from marrying Devaki. But there is nothing in SB about it.

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

I think SB is more about Krishna himself than Mahabharata, so it focuses more on Krishna's story during his early years and then in Dwaraka.

Oh, RSK's Abhimanyu death was the most gruesome one I ever saw by far!🤢 It did show all six warriors killing him at once, before Karna finished the deed in the end by driving a sword through him...or maybe it was Duryodhan, I don't remember, but there's this one telugu movie called Daana Veera Soora Karna that is Karna-centered, and it showed Karna killing him upon Duryodhan's orders. I guess people have their own perception of the death, or want to show it as gruesome as possible to show the Kauravas in a worse light.

But if Abhimanyu's death wasn't unjust and it was one warrior to on warrior as per war ethics, then why was Arjun so infuriated upon hearing it, and made a vow to destroy Jayadrath and all the Kauravas for their unethical fighting?

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Oh, it was unjust all right - first of all, Jayadrath cut off all his allies so that Abhimanyu was trapped alone in that vyuha. And then, the way he was disarmed was completely against the rules. Had Shrutakarna not killed him while he was unconscious, they may well have killed him the way it is shown.

Had the Pandavas and the rest of the forces accompanied Abhimanyu, he'd have been safe - warriors like Satyaki & Bhima would have seen to it. Both of them saved Dhrishtadyumna from Drona and Ashwatthama umpteen number of times, so here too, they'd have prevented Abhimanyu from getting disarmed, much less killed.

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Janaki

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Oh, it was unjust all right - first of all, Jayadrath cut off all his allies so that Abhimanyu was trapped alone in that vyuha. And then, the way he was disarmed was completely against the rules. Had Shrutakarna not killed him while he was unconscious, they may well have killed him the way it is shown.

Had the Pandavas and the rest of the forces accompanied Abhimanyu, he'd have been safe - warriors like Satyaki & Bhima would have seen to it. Both of them saved Dhrishtadyumna from Drona and Ashwatthama umpteen number of times, so here too, they'd have prevented Abhimanyu from getting disarmed, much less killed.

Oh okay, so they did disarm him together...I guess serials and movies take it a notch higher and show them all killing him together. It's a deviation I don't mind actually, because even had they not killed him together, they pretty much made him incapable of defending himself, which is the same.🤬

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varaali

@varaali

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
I'm not aware on whether SB describes his killing - in fact, there is a great deal that SB misses about Krishna's Mahabharata activities. As an example, the only place Satyaki is mentioned, IIRC, is the Yadava fratricide. The Mahabharata describes in detail the relationship b/w Satyaki's grandfather Sini and Somadatta and how the former defeated the latter and prevented him from marrying Devaki. But there is nothing in SB about it.

In fact Srimad Bhagavatham skips the entire War, since it was written after Vyasa composed Mahabharata. SB records those incidents of Krishna's life which had not been covered in Mahabharata. Same with Hari Vamsa.

Edited by varaali - 13 years ago

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varaali

@varaali

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath
Thanks Vrish!

My question: What was the first vyuha in which Dronacharya arranged the army when he became commander-in-chief?

Since no one has answered it till now, I will give it a try . Drona's first Vyuha was Sakata (cart formation)

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proteeti

@sambhavami

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

Aah...Chakra Vyuh ?

Awesome Thread !

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

Hey guys,

Sorry for disappearing! There are so many threads on IF that I go to that I just forgot about this one.

Varaali, you could be right, but the MB book I follow says that Drona's first vyuha was the eagle formation. I don't know the sanskrit name for it.

Anyone else can ask the next clue.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Okay, here's the next one...

In whose care did Yudhisthir leave both Parikshit and Vajra when the Pandavas decided to retire following the Yadava fratricide?

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Vibhishna

@Vibhishna

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Posted: 13 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Okay, here's the next one...

In whose care did Yudhisthir leave both Parikshit and Vajra when the Pandavas decided to retire following the Yadava fratricide?

Not sure about this one but will try to guess.

Kripacharya or maybe Sage Sandilya?

Among the elders I do not know who were left and who left (for the forests).

By the way, I'm back. 🤗 Again. 😉

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