Prahlad's teachings against the practice of 'SATI' - Page 2

^^^^Agree. Not all the cultures (like paradanashin, not talking directly to elders) but I just gave the example from RCM. And anyway, the point is that the dialog wasn't required. Simply the gesture even was enough. The message would have been conveyed. Even if the portrayal was not wrong (I have never been that strong on that part of the argument) but was NOT NEEDED and was ARTIFICIAL LOOKING and therefore not very good looking. At least you can agree that Vasudev Devaki scene of the same message was better being without any dialog than this one with unnecessary topic discussion from a divine couple (Dialogs created from a big influencing character of Ramji - and not in a Fanfic creation but a compilation of authentic sources).

Originally posted by: ShivangBuch

^^^^Agree. Not all the cultures (like paradanashin, not talking directly to elders) but I just gave the example from RCM. And anyway, the point is that the dialog wasn't required. Simply the gesture even was enough. The message would have been conveyed. Even if the portrayal was not wrong (I have never been that strong on that part of the argument) but was NOT NEEDED and was ARTIFICIAL LOOKING and therefore not very good looking. At least you can agree that Vasudev Devaki scene of the same message was better being without any dialog than this one with unnecessary topic discussion from a divine couple (Dialogs created from a big influencing character of Ramji - and not in a Fanfic creation but a compilation of authentic sources).

Yes, I agree that the VD scene from SK was conveyed better than this one from ASR...it is often said that actions convey more than words, and instances where either the husband or wife is suffering and the other comforts them through actions like hugging, stroking their head, or letting them place their head on their lap (like in VD's case), is often more comforting than saying things like "It will be alright" or "Everything's going to be fine" etc.😊

In general, ASR had more dialogue than was necessary sometimes...and I thought about this when watching the show and thought that maybe it was because today's audience doesn't understand some gestures...people today talk more than they should😆 and they call some of the gestures onscreen, like eyelocks or whatnot, boring without any dialogue. Again, the creatives of ASR probably catered to these interests, and the dialogues of some of those scenes weren't really bad...they just further explained the scene when it was not really needed.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Yes, I agree that the VD scene from SK was conveyed better than this one from ASR...it is often said that actions convey more than words, and instances where either the husband or wife is suffering and the other comforts them through actions like hugging, stroking their head, or letting them place their head on their lap (like in VD's case), is often more comforting than saying things like "It will be alright" or "Everything's going to be fine" etc.😊

In general, ASR had more dialogue than was necessary sometimes...and I thought about this when watching the show and thought that maybe it was because today's audience doesn't understand some gestures...people today talk more than they should😆 and they call some of the gestures onscreen, like eyelocks or whatnot, boring without any dialogue. Again, the creatives of ASR probably catered to these interests, and the dialogues of some of those scenes weren't really bad...they just further explained the scene when it was not really needed.

Originally posted by: ShivangBuch

Now I think we have enough fun he he. Now we will come back to 'Sati' or we can allow others to agree or disagree on our points of the other topic generated from it. Lol. Yes today's audience needs lot of explanation and pampering may be to keep them interested towards true good lessons of life. I still think fictional characters are better in that with which one can better identify oneself and also wouldn't find strange about an event or dialog to have actually happened in Treta. Unwanted dialogs may have been just to elaborate the message a bit further fine. Question is whether this message itself first of all was required to be given through Ramayan? Anyway. I was just specific to this scene and not in general how ASR has been directed because I haven't watched it for more than a few scattered episodes. Just like for BRC MB examples also where I was specific about the scenes I mentioned and not general because in general I believe that BRC & Dr Raza have grabbed and shown the essence of Geeta too good in dialogs and characterization of Krishna. Just excellent!!

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

No, you're right. ASR did not show too many contemporary messages except the equality of man and woman, husband and wife, etc but other than that they stuck to actual Ramayan most of the time. A mythological show which did show waaay too much contemporary messages is BRC's Vishnu Puraan, which I'm watching right now with my family.

BRC did well with Mahabharat, but I believe his other shows like Ramayan (which I watced a few episodes before being discouraged from continuing) and Vishnu Puraan were not directed well. In Vishnu Puraan, they incorporate a contemporary message into every single one of Vishnu's avatars, and this serial is the one for which I created that father topic, when Lakshmi blatantly said a father's love is less to a mother's. So Vishnu Puraan was majoriy flawed, not only in direction, but also the amount of fiction it showed and how it interweaved so many contemporary messages that were inapplicable to those yugas.

Just yesterday, I was watching older Prahlad, who is now King, giving a bhashaan (did I say that right?) about female infanticide and how it's so prevalent and how it's a sin...yes, I agree that killing newborn girls is a sin, but was that prevalent in the satya yuga, which was supposed to be completely sinless?😲 That's a social message which shows today, like TMKOC and Chidiya Ghar like you said, should display, because it's an issue prevalent today and not back in the satya yuga.

So I do understand where you're coming from, and had ASR showed contemporary social messages like that, of female infanticide and all, I too wouldn't have liked those scenes since such problems did not exist back then, but to an extent, I do not mind some scenes advocating husband wife equality.