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Posted: 13 years ago

Karna had approached drona for dhanurvidya before the competion? Is that true or is that another one that brc pulled out of the hat?
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Posted: 13 years ago
That one was true, and the reason he moved to Parashurama.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Its possible that Karna could have gone in search of Drona for his education and then asked Parashuram as he was turned down by the former.

From what I remember, Amba, Ambika and Ambalika's sister went to Parashuram to get justice when Bheeshma rejected her and a battle between the teacher and student ensued in which Bheeshma was victorious. Parashuram could have been living in the forests / river near Hastinapur.

Does that mean Karna was near Hastinapur when the competition was announced? I read a story that he went back to his home after he was cursed by Parashuram, the brahman and the Earth Goddess.

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Posted: 13 years ago
Earth godess? That's a new one for me. What curse did Bhoomi devi curse him w/, and why?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Earth godess? That's a new one for me. What curse did Bhoomi devi curse him w/, and why?


Oh it's one of the several legends related to Karna. Once while he was wandering, he came across a child crying. On being asked why, the child replied she had spilt the ghee she was carrying in a cup and now hr mother would scold her. Karna, being Karna, offered the child not one, but ten cups of ghee in lieu. But the child was adamant, she wanted Karna to retrieve the ghee that had fallen on the ground. A bemused Karna scooped up a fistful of mud and with superhuman strength squeezed it. The ghee that had been absorbed in the mud began to drip and the child happily collected it in the cup.

But someone else was not so happy- and that was the Earth Goddess. She pointed out that in the process of satisfying the child, Karna had squeezed to death the thousands of micro-organic creatures inhabiting the mud he had scooped.

She then cursed him that she (Earth / mud) would be the cause for his death.


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Posted: 13 years ago
Poor Karna! On one hand, the death of all combatants in the Kurukshetra war is deemed necessary to reduce the burden on Bhulok. OTOH, a few microorganisms getting killed earns Karna a curse of defeat.

Actually, this curse would have been redundant w/ that of the cow-owning Brahmana, right?
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Posted: 13 years ago
Maybe Bhumi Devi didn't know the brhamana cursed him ? 😆 Or another curse, just to make sure Karna does not escape alive? 😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
I had read a slightly different version.

Bhumi Devi cursed Karna for causing her excruciating pain for the sake of a child (or a few drops of ghee) when Karna squeezed the Earth.


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Posted: 13 years ago
New question on Ghatotkacha - as is well known, Krishna used him to use up Karna's Shakti, so that Karna couldn't use it against Arjun. Thereby necessitating his sacrifice.

But looking @ this from the enemy point of view, how was that the only weapon that could kill him? Earlier that night, Ashwatthama killed Ghatotkacha's son Anjanparva, and Ghatotkacha fell upon him vowing revenge. He was however unable to defeat or kill Ashwatthama.

Now, as is known from the way the war went later, Ashwatthama had 2 ultimate weapons. One was the Narayan-astra, which he used following his father's death (this was actually one of the few things shown well & accurately in RS-SK), while the second was the Brahmashira, which he tried to use against the Pandavas, and then diverted against Uttara.

Now, either of these could have killed Ghatotkacha. Of course, in the case of the Narayan Astra, Krishna could have had him and everyone else surrender to the weapon, and thus save himself to still be available for the Shakti. But the Brahmashira - Ghatotkacha would have been killed by that as well, and had Arjun used his own Brahmashira against that, the end result would have been that he'd have been forced to recall it (like he was later), and Ashwatthama would still have been free to divert it towards Ghatotkacha.

So how did the Kaurava strategists miss this seemingly obvious way of getting rid of Ghatotkacha w/o crippling Karna's ability to slay Arjun?
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Posted: 13 years ago
Probably because Ashwatthama was aware at that time about the rules of using that weapon and its possible consequences. So he was never going to use it if its use was at the wrong time looking at its side effects. But he eventually used it for personal revenge when he lost all his senses and was fighting as if fighting his final battle without any morality.

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