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Posted: 14 years ago
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I heard that the 16,100 women whom Narakasur kidnapped and Krishna later married were re-incarnations of the women during Treta Yug who all wanted to marry Ram, but he refused them all because of his Ek Patnivrat vow and promised them that he would marry them in another avatar...is this story actually written somewhere, like in the Bhagwat Puraan or Brahma Vaivarta Puraan, or is it just hearsay?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Just hearsay. There was nobody in the Ramayan who wanted to marry Rama, except Surpanakha.

Incidentally, Narakasura is discussed @ length in the DBSK forum, since it's the active track right now. The CVs have decided to skip Krishna's 5 other wives.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Just hearsay. There was nobody in the Ramayan who wanted to marry Rama, except Surpanakha.

Incidentally, Narakasura is discussed @ length in the DBSK forum, since it's the active track right now. The CVs have decided to skip Krishna's 5 other wives.



What about Chandraprabha'a story? Is that here say too?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I've only seen Chandraprabha's story in the ASR serial - have never read about it anywhere. Ahiravan & Mahiravan do appear in Krittivas, but there is no Chandrasena there, and the entire story was different, except for the part about Rama & Lakshman being abducted. A lot of people have asked in which version does Chandrasena appear, but I've never seen an answer on that one. Does anybody know whether Chandraprabha or Mahiravan appear in the Adhyatma Ramayan?
Point is that even if medeaval authors of the Ramayan, like Tulsidas, Krittivas, Ramdev, et al had written about this, it couldn't have been retroactively included in the Puranas, which were written much earlier (unless of course, they were tampered with.) So it leaves open that question. Once, in the Ramayan forum, there was some discussion about Vedavati appearing b4 Rama after Ravan's death and wanting to marry him, and even Brahma requesting it and Sita approving it, but Rama still declining. That doesn't even make sense since Sita was Vedavati reborn. But in any case, there weren't 7 other women in the Ramayan who wanted to marry Rama, much less 16,100. 😆
In short, there are no pre-existing reasons why Krishna had to marry anybody: he simply did it b'cos the invitations came, either from the women involved themselves, or from their fathers.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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According to Sremadbhagwad Mahapuran he married them because no one was ready to accept them . Not their fathers and not the society

It was actually the same thing which happened to Seeta
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What same thing happened w/ Sita? 😕
The first statement, I'm assuming you're talking about the 16,100 women of Narakasura?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

What same thing happened w/ Sita? 😕

The first statement, I'm assuming you're talking about the 16,100 women of Narakasura?



yes I am talking of the 16100 queens

By Seeta I mean that she was sent into vanvas because people didnt want a lady as queen who had stayed in the house of another man

Same held for these 16100 women. All doors were closed for them because they had stayed in the house of another man

At that time Lord Krishna rescued them, symbolic meaning is that when all doors close on a person the door of the Lord stays open

The difference between Ram and Krishna was that Ram was not a purna Avatar while Krishna was

Krishna is Narayan and Narayan is Krishna

And to Narayan all souls are equal and his door is open to all
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Rama was every bit as much an avatar as Krishna was. Difference was that as king, he decided that he had to follow the wishes of the people, including unreasonable ones. By contrast, since Krishna was not the ruler, he could marry anybody he liked, and nobody saw that as undermining the public morality, since he was neither the king, and also, since he was known to be a god, it was understood that just b'cos he was allowed to do something didn't imply that others were as well.
Dwaraka people had no opinion on Krishna's wives. Only issue here - at that time, if a woman was thought to be defiled by someone else, not just in body, but also in mind and spirit, the doors on her were closed. That's how it was w/ Amba - she never loved anybody but Shalva, but b'cos Bheeshma had abducted her, and he'd be perceived as accepting Amba as a gift from Bheeshma, he couldn't accept her. Vichitravirya refused to accept Amba as well since her heart and mind were on Shalva, while Bheeshma couldn't marry her either b'cos of his stupid vow. And while Amba was pure in all 3 aspects, the Narakasura women had been used by him, and so nobody was expected to accept them.
Since Krishna wasn't making any of them the queen, he could safely marry them all w/o raising eyebrows. Also, their status as his secondary wives also helped in this regard.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^ Krishna married them though, so would they be his 'secondary wives'? Is there such a thing? Though the first eight of his wives were his chief queens, wouldn't the other 16,100 also be his queens since they were his wives?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Arrey I didnt mean Ram ji was not an Avatar, please thats not what I said

I only meant that he was born with only 14 kalas of Vishnu while Krishna was born with all 16 kalas
@ Janaki they all had status of Rani while the eight had status of Patrani
Edited by NandiniPS - 14 years ago

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