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Originally posted by: lola610

Glad you liked... same with yours, she used Devi Yogmaya's pics to perfection... looks really powerful 👏 It is indeed from RCM, which in turn got it from Adhyatma. That stuti, bhaye pragata Kripaala, is sung at most temples I've been to on both Ram Navmi and Janmashtami.
I'm about to start posting my stuff but still hadn't put text on that wedding sig which is the first in the "series" 😆

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I know, just love both our requests and am so glad we decided on Janmashtami as our theme.😛

Was Adhyatma Ramayan written before RCM? In that case, why does RCM get more recognition and fame?

Originally posted by: lola610

It was, and it was in fact Tulsidasji's main source for the variations and the devotional tone in general. IMO a credible source indeed; it was written by Ved Vyas himself. As for why RCM is more popular, it is because that was the first time the text was translated into the vernacular and made accessible to common people who weren't literate in Sanskrit.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Really? It was written by Veda Vyas himself?😲 I honestly never knew that! In that case, I wonder why there are differences between VR and AR since both were written by saints that received the darshan of God. I am in particular talking about Chhaya Sita vs real Sita...such a big difference shouldn't exist if two gifted saints with divya drishti wrote the same epic.😕

Originally posted by: lola610

The disparities are certainly intriguing. In my opinion, they arise due to a difference in the intended audience, not in the divinity or authenticity of the author. Aadikavi Valmiki wanted to write the story in a way that would suit a secular audience, so that they would be able to imbibe the qualities of the characters without rolling their eyes every time a miracle is described. Ved Vyasji, having learned the lesson that Naradji taught him in the 1st Skand of the Bhagavat when he was depressed after writing MB, could no longer write without expressing the devotional truths of the story and be content.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

That makes sense...other than the Agni Pariksha confusion, RCM/AR and Valmiki Ramayan don't have many differences...Adhyatma Ramayan just adds to VR and gives the characters more divinity if you know what I mean. I guess Valmiki humanized his characters a bit more than Veda Vyas so that less learned people could understand the tale and also learn from the characters...whereas Veda Vyas and Tulsidas interweaved more divine interventions into their story to teach us that nothing happens without God's grace...every single act of a human being is pre-planned by God only, so they had Saraswati Ma sitting on Manthara's tongue, Shri Hari appearing to Kaushalya Ma, etc.

Agreed, though I'm not sure it can categorically be declared whether the later authors purposefully interweaved them, or Valmikiji purposely omitted them. For the former, there would be the reason you mentioned, and for the latter it would be because he had an audience who wasn't living during a bhakti revival period like Tulsidasji's was.

It brings to mind the episode about Barbarik which my family and I saw from SK today...it was a really interesting story and shown beautifully too, definitely refreshing after all that war drama.👏 It showed that after the war, all the Pandavas became slightly proud of their strength and came under the impression that the Kauravas were defeated because of their power. Barbarik laughs at them and Draupadi asks him why he is laughing. He then tells her that seeing humans' pride sometimes makes him laugh because they fail to realize that nothing happens without God's grace. He then tells them that behind every death of the Kauravas, Krishna's Sudarshan Chakra was doing its job and not Arjun's arrows, Bheem's Gada, etc. The Pandavas were mere instruments to kill the Kauravas and Krishna actually did all the work. The Pandavas realize their mistake and apologize to Krishna for their momentary ahankaar.

This episode was seriously awesome😍, you should watch it...I don't think it's on youtube but it may be on dailymotion.

That does sound very devotional and nice. I saw the Barbarik story in BRC's MB sequel, Mahabharat Katha, and though it was interesting, his head on a stick was a tad gruesome for my squeamish taste 😳😆

Btw, I have a question...someone told me that Lakshman Rekha was written in neither VR nor RCM...which source does it come from, since every single Ramayan movie and serial shows it? It's a pretty popular story and we never see Sita Haran without Lakshman Rekha, so I'm curious.
It is not described as it occurs in RCM, as in during Aranya Kand before Sita Haran, but it is indeed mentioned in that text. Later on when Mandodari is trying to talk sense into Ravan, she makes a reference to it by telling him that "those who you refer to as lowly forest-dwellers - you couldn't even cross a line on of their arrows made in the sand, then what makes you think you can defeat them?" The fully developed narrative of it is from Ananda Ramayan, if I remember correctly.

The destroyer of darkness, the Omnipresent

Krishna murari aagoto oi

Krishna, the Murari, has come to earth

Timiro bidari alokho bihari

The destroyer of darkness, the Omnipresent

Krishna murari aagoto oi

Krishna, the Murari, has come to earth

Tutilo aagolo, nikhilo pagolo (2)

All the adversities disappear, all the locks become unlocked, & the whole universe is overwhelmed with joy

Sarbosaha aaji sarbojayi

Mother earth, who can bear with all pain, has conquered the universe today (as she is rewarded with the Lord)

Timiro bidari alokho bihari

The destroyer of darkness, the Omnipresent

Krishna murari aagoto oi

Krishna, the Murari, has come to earth

Bohichhe ujaan ashru Yamunay

Tears from all eyes flow continually as river Yamuna flows (there is no limit of people's distress)

Hridi Vrindavane aanando dake, aaye

On the other hand, pleasure within each heart calls the Lord as the entire Vrindavan calls Him

Bohichhe ujaan ashru Yamunay

Tears from all eyes flow continually as river Yamuna flows (there is no limit of people's distress)

Hridi Vrindavane aanando dake, aaye

On the other hand, pleasure within each heart calls the Lord as the entire Vrindavan calls Him

Basudha Yashodar snehodhar utholay (2)

Mother earth's affection rises for the divine baby just like Maa Yashoda

Kalo rakhal nache thoi ta thoi (2)

The time (kaal) is dancing in joy like a cowboy

Timiro bidari alokho bihari

Krishna murari aagoto oi

Viswa bhori uthe stobo namo namo

The whole universe bows to Him & sings His glory

Ariro puri majhe elo arindamo

Within the prison of His enemy, the slayer of all enemies has born

Viswa bhori uthe stobo namo namo

The whole universe bows to Him & sings His glory

Ariro puri majhe elo arindamo

Within the prison of His enemy, the slayer of all enemies has born

Gheria dar britha jaage prohori jono

All efforts of guards of prison become unsuccessful

Kararo majhe elo bandho-bimochono

Because He came within the prison who can liberate people from all imprisonments

Gheria dar britha jaage prohori jono

All efforts of guards of prison become unsuccessful

Kararo majhe elo bandho-bimochono

Because He came within the prison who can liberate people from all imprisonments

Dhori ajana roop aasilo anagato (2)

The Lord appears here assuming an unknown form

Jagiya vaythahato daake "Maa Vai" (2)

All the distressed people wake up & say, "There is no more fear"

Timiro bidari alokho bihari

Krishna murari aagoto oi

Tutilo aagolo, nikhilo pagolo (2)

Sarbosaha aaji sarbojayi

Timiro bidari alokho bihari

Krishna murari aagoto oi (3)