Best Performer Ever on Reality Stage... - Page 4

I think AMEY is a complete package for being the best performer wid awesome looks,superb voice, brilliant singing and great performance...followed by Panna..

Originally posted by: breathing_irony

the definition of performance is very subjective.

If u found the emotional appeal lacking in any of her songs then tht doesnt mean tht even i found the emotional appeal lacking. I've been listening to nihira even before c-2005 started so i realyl knw wat the girl is capable of.

I've found some of Karu's performances extremely boring but tht doesnt mean tht he isnt a good performer jsut coz i think so. U mentioned a lot of technical aspects in ur post (some of which i personally dont agree with) but it's not always abt technicalities.........and trust me if karu was such a perfect performer as u made him out 2 be then every1 would be his fan adn the jduges would never criticise him.

As for providing valid reasons for liking some1....well u cant always give a reason why u enjoy watching n listening to some1....there r some singers u lik n some u jsut dont lik as much; fondness for any particualr singer cant be explained solely thru technical aspects. What's likeable and endearing to u may not be the same to me.

Agree completely with you sneha ( i hope that is u breathing_irony !!)..

What appeals to some people dont appeal to others and I mentioned this in the same post you had in the SRGMP forum, realmusic ..the point is just as you found some of nihira's performances boring,I thought some of Karunya's weren't that good.. chak de was pretty dry and boring... and so was his zohar jabeen.. it was just plain ok..good in ii standards, but boring other wise..

even karunya gave his best singing when he wasnt moving his leg too much..even in kava kava..he didnt dance much while singing.. piya re and lagan lagi he was pretyt much stationary... even in the live shows..he just shaked his leg when he was just singin the chorus parts..when it was the title part..he never used to dance too much...

if tat was taken into account who was very good with sur inspite of dancin wasprobably panna and amey.. they rarely faltered on sur when dancing...

the rest..every1 messed up when they tried to do both together..its not easy..its VERY hard...its laudable to what talent they did..

thts the reason i liked srgmp's format.. esp the themes, indian idol themes were weird :S like they gave vague themes when there were so many participants and sum1 the singer had to almost pick up a fast song to force in dance ! even monal when she did sandeshein aate hain.. i loved her singing but HATED the moves she did..tht song is a soulful song..u dont dance for that !!! it sounded like a remix which spoiled the beauty of the song... in srgmp..the themes that require solid singing were on the main episode and on the results episode also each contestant sang n those themes were like dance numbers and thats when we got to see each contestant 'perform'.. and those days even if they went off sur a bit, it was justified because u were already thru or out...so it didnt matter...

coming to technicalities.. i think karunya was technically perfect.. or near perfect .. that i would give it .. he rarely went off sur..but yes, he did sound flat at some occasions and shrill in some... his best were at medium to high pitched songs... he didnt attempt any lower pitch songs.. (not that i hve heard off)..that would tell us a lot about his scale too..but nonetheless, he was a good performer..

i dunt think the best though.. karu, hemu, amey, arijit and amit sana according to me were the best male singers of reality shows since the votin trend started..

But, Madhavi. You are precisely underlining my point. You have given examples of people excelling in particular areas. My point is that Karunya seems to be the only one who combined all of those features in a respectably flawless packaging.

Yes, I too liked the SRGMP (not emet) format more.

Originally posted by: madhavi_r108

Agree completely with you sneha ( i hope that is u breathing_irony !!)..

What appeals to some people dont appeal to others and I mentioned this in the same post you had in the SRGMP forum, realmusic ..the point is just as you found some of nihira's performances boring,I thought some of Karunya's weren't that good.. chak de was pretty dry and boring... and so was his zohar jabeen.. it was just plain ok..good in ii standards, but boring other wise..

even karunya gave his best singing when he wasnt moving his leg too much..even in kava kava..he didnt dance much while singing.. piya re and lagan lagi he was pretyt much stationary... even in the live shows..he just shaked his leg when he was just singin the chorus parts..when it was the title part..he never used to dance too much...

if tat was taken into account who was very good with sur inspite of dancin wasprobably panna and amey.. they rarely faltered on sur when dancing...

the rest..every1 messed up when they tried to do both together..its not easy..its VERY hard...its laudable to what talent they did..

thts the reason i liked srgmp's format.. esp the themes, indian idol themes were weird :S like they gave vague themes when there were so many participants and sum1 the singer had to almost pick up a fast song to force in dance ! even monal when she did sandeshein aate hain.. i loved her singing but HATED the moves she did..tht song is a soulful song..u dont dance for that !!! it sounded like a remix which spoiled the beauty of the song... in srgmp..the themes that require solid singing were on the main episode and on the results episode also each contestant sang n those themes were like dance numbers and thats when we got to see each contestant 'perform'.. and those days even if they went off sur a bit, it was justified because u were already thru or out...so it didnt matter...

coming to technicalities.. i think karunya was technically perfect.. or near perfect .. that i would give it .. he rarely went off sur..but yes, he did sound flat at some occasions and shrill in some... his best were at medium to high pitched songs... he didnt attempt any lower pitch songs.. (not that i hve heard off)..that would tell us a lot about his scale too..but nonetheless, he was a good performer..

i dunt think the best though.. karu, hemu, amey, arijit and amit sana according to me were the best male singers of reality shows since the votin trend started..

Originally posted by: realmusic

My choice is without question Karunya. As far as the voice alone is concerned, I like his cousin Hema's more.

Here are the qualities that make NCK the winner in the history of all such shows:

1) Total command of words and intonations.
2) Incredible memory for lyrics.
3) Total comfort with fast changing scales and lyrics.
4) Great breath control, even after dancing and jumping during the song.
5) Ability to emote and act during the song without compromising singing.
6) Ability to maintain sur througout the song (probably the most important).
7) Great imagination to add individual touches to songs; so as to not imitate the original version. (Hema is even better at this)
7) Knowledge of the fundamentals of music, sur, taal etc.
8) Voice quality. Incredibly smooth, without jitter. A little high pitched for my taste. But, can change voice to suit song (eg. yamma, yamma song).

All of this at the young age of 19, with experience to gain, is just an awe-insipiring combination. Good luck NCK!

PS. If any of the above goes over your head; seek the nearest parent/elder for explaination. 😉😉

I agree with u👏

hi
well said 👏 👏
huzi

realmusic: u wanted reason why i lik nihira n amey. I've already justified why i lik nihira.

As for Amey...i love his voice, the improvisations he does in songs (lik tu hi re, juda hoke bhi, tum jo, tadap tadap) the guts he had to try a range of different singers.....the improvement he showed in stage presence throughout the galas (noticebale if u compare juda hoke bhi to satrangi re). And he was one of those very very few good singers frm reality shows who could perform----lik in RDB, Holi ke din, Satrangi re.......

And even when he didnt dance around he bought a lot of expression in2 his songs (something karunya has been criticised TWICE for) in songs lik tadap tadap, tum jo...

I knw amey wasnt as good at high pitched songs as karu is.....but karu wasnt as good at low-pitched songs as amey is and amey proved himself better with romantic numbers.......

And amey was very good looking n had laods of x-factor....And lik they say, jo dikhta hai woh biktha hai.

ar. And yea...my third fav: Hemu....do i need to give a justification. Can i jsut say tht he's brilliant!!

realmusic, I finally get what you were trying to say.. I am sorry for hte misunderstanding.

But my post clearly addresses that. Karunya was good, but he wasn't flawless.. Why do I say that is because we have not seen the 'performance' skills of Vinit or Hemu to full potential.. So to say that he was the best in all reality shows is going too far.. I know you are a Hemu fan too and I am a Karu fan as well.. I call neither flawless when it comes to performance because they both had mess ups.. to clarify why

- Hemu: Though he danced, his expressions on his face were never smooth..its like a classical singer singing..eyes closed jaw clenched.. and an occasional smile here and there.. however, wat ever little movement he did with his legs, he never let it affect his voice.. especially the expression in his voice..people say hemu's voice was his strenght.. i sincerly beg to differ.. personnally i felt the expression in hsi voice made it power..which is the reason when he went off sur also, the power was so evident in his singing that for a layman, its good (eg. Maa Tujhe Salaam.. he went off note in two places)

- Karunya: Karunya is an effortless singer... When he sand Jhanak Jhanak or Navrang, he was fantastic..its like he isnt singing..he is breathing.. and then again he didn't dance while he sang..he swayed..but he didnt dance ! i saw the clip again just to be sure..but he danced as much as vinit or hemu usually do... yes, he was more casual than hemu..his eyes were wide open..he was connectin with the camera etc..but he HAD too.. thats the purpose of Indian Idol.. if he didnt 'connect with the audience' then he would lose votes.. (i still dont get this point..but whatever).. wrt respect to the points u gave, I agree with his great breath control..in fact there are VERY few singers i've heard with such good breathcontrol.. hemu, karu, nihira, vinit, himani, arijit, prajakta, amit sana are who i think have phenomenal breath control... i also think it has a lot to do with age... breath factor is probably ameys greatest weakness..you could hear him breathing distinctly in most songs... except Laaga Chunari Pe daag.. lyrics and control over language go together.. its funny..i've heard Karu's telugu songs... i didnt like them..there was somethin odd with his telugu diction !! i found tat really funny !!! but yes..his hindi/urdu ulfaaz is FANTASTIC.. and same with lyrics.. (i think u mentioned this as hemu forgot his lyrics 2wice!)

karunya has a lot of +points and i am not gonna disagree with that.. your points are valid and i agree iwth each one of them.. singing techincality wise i think he is a notch above amey for the sole reason that he can sing sing songs at most pitches with reasonable ease (sneha..he takes low pitch also good enough.. not as as amey who i thought was very good with low).. but as sneha said..expression lacks in some of his songs.. karunya is a LOT like nihira in that aspect..super super singing..but sometimes its life less.. his chak de was super techincally.. but no life in it.. and it didnt appeal to the janta.. i thought he had the max feeling in laayi vi na gayi, lagan lagi (i dunno how farah khan said this didnt touch her hear.t. i had goosebumps.. i never liked this song till he sang it) and piya re.. (jhanak jhanak and navrang were techinically really superior songs so to sing those without expression still makes them good).. his ramta jogi again was good.. techinically he was better than hemu..but hemu's performance stood apart just for the fact tat he felt it..

again i re-iterate, to say he is best in all reality shows is too broad because we havent seen the other skills of the other contestants..but yes.. Karu is one of the few who had equal chance of being in top 5 of SRGMP as he did in II..

Madhavi, I agree with you that Hema's Woh Lamhe, Ramta Jogi etc were a class apart. So much feel and that liquid voice was something.

I was just saying that if you average out in all areas for a STAGE performance, Karunya may score the highest in terms of voice, confidence, emoting/acting, control of words and memory. You knew that when he took the stage you could bet blindly that he would not make any fundamental mistakes. I am just talking about what has happened and not trying to make a judgement on future potential.

I am trying to be objective about Karunya, but I prefer to listen to Hema more, definitely. He also had a great macho stage presence that Debo and Vinit were lacking.

Originally posted by: FromBikaner

People of India have already Rated Sandeep as the Best... why are people still want to belive the reality. It was obvious again and again

Absolutely FromBikaner, Sandeep is the best and will always be the best. No question. A talent like him comes around once in a 1000 years.