Yash Raj Kapil ??? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Sunita182

I woudn't too. But I woudn't be surprised if my parents did it and I can see myself doing it in the future if I have to for my kids.

Sorry Mam. This is completely unacceptable to me. Please don't think I am targeting your family. But I have not been taught such cultures and this is certainly not in my Indian roots.
The fact remains out of lakhs of people and probably hundreds of talented singers only Yashraj's father begged in front of judges.

Originally posted by: brahmabul

I never mentioned Yashraj's dad as cheap. I referred to his actions as cheap. There are lot of parents who believe in the talents of their children. Which parent doesn't? But only handful will engage in doing something which Yahraj's father did.
You probably don't understand the meaning of self-respect and dignity. Of course you didn't comment anything about the bold portion which I think is beyond your understanding.

I didn't respond to that because I am not an Indian but that doesn't mean I dont have values.
and also, i do understand waht self-respect or dignity is. But I can understand why his father might have done what he did becuase my father has been in a similiar situation. That is why i can relate to it and I felt offended because you called it cheap. And also, because of what my dad did for me I dont think makes me or him not have ''self-respect'' or ''dignity'' ....

I woudn't like to disclose too much as its personal. But it would have ruined my life if my dad didn't do what he did.

Im sorry if I offended you. but that word 'cheap' got to me real bad.

Originally posted by: xobile

So you are saying that although Yashraj's father begged, THAT was not the deciding factor. The ultimate deciding factor was that Yashraj had talent, which he proved in his second chance.

OK, I get that. In fact everyone on the thread gets that.

What Brahmabul was saying was something completely different. He said that his father was CHEAP to beg like that. According to you, apparently begging like that is something every parent would do. But as I have already shown - 4,000 parents (estimated) had the opportunity to beg and only Yashraj's father did. Which proves it is not common to beg like that. It doesn't matter what the outcome is. Sure, Yashraj is talented. But that doesn't take away from the fact that his father kneeled and begged like that. It doesn't take away from the fact that he tolerated that be-izzati of his father on national TV.

Now hopefully you can understand why some people would think that that whole spiel was cheap.

read the reply to brahmabul

Originally posted by: Sunita182

read the reply to brahmabul

I have clearly written "I think it was a very cheap act." Now I have no idea how do you infer from here that his father is cheap.

Originally posted by: brahmabul

I have clearly written "I think it was a very cheap act." Now I have no idea how do you infer from here that his father is cheap.

The bold text is meant for XOBILE TO see why I found you referring to it as ''cheap act'' offensive. which i have replied to you in the earlier post.

Originally posted by: Sunita182

I didn't respond to that because I am not an Indian but that doesn't mean I dont have values.
and also, i do understand waht self-respect or dignity is. But I can understand why his father might have done what he did becuase my father has been in a similiar situation. That is why i can relate to it and I felt offended because you called it cheap. And also, because of what my dad did for me I dont think makes me or him not have ''self-respect'' or ''dignity'' ....

I woudn't like to disclose too much as its personal. But it would have ruined my life if my dad didn't do what he did.

Im sorry if I offended you. but that word 'cheap' got to me real bad.

Mam tell me one thing. Aap kitne logo ki zindagi ke baare jaanti hain. Yashraj is already a winner of a reality show. Uss se buri haalat to Kanika aur Saira Banu ki hain. I am sure had their dad also interfered they would have also got a second chance. Who knows they would have also impressed and you can not question their talent.

And you also say that Yashraj is not there only because of his father. Aap ek baat bataiye agar uss din Yashraj ke papa nahin aate to kya Yashraj aage badta?

Originally posted by: brahmabul

Mam tell me one thing. Aap kitne logo ki zindagi ke baae jaante hain. Yashraj is already a winner of a reality show. Uss se buri haalat to Kanika aur Saira Banu ki hain. I am sure had their dad also interfered they would have also got a second chance. Who knows they would have also impressed and you can not question their talent.

And you also say that Yashraj is not there only because of his father. Aap ek baat bataiye agar uss din Yashraj ke papa nahin aate to kya Yashraj aage badta?

I dint say I know alot of other ppl's lives. But I know for a fact why parents do certain things they do. and If anyone called my dad or his act cheap for anithing he did for me... I wouls seriously consider murder and also, the thing you said about having self-pride and all .. fair enough, but I think what parents feel for their children is unconditional and wat he did doesn't make him not have dignity .

I would have just let it pass, if it dint relate to me but calling him (father) cheap or wtever got to me and here we are.

I believe in destiny. I believe that if it wans't for his father, there would have been another thing that would make him in , that is if he is meant to b there.

Que Sera Sera- what will be, will be.

Originally posted by: Sunita182

Agreed. I woudn't too. But I woudn't be surprised if my parents did it and I can see myself doing it in the future if I have to for my kids.



But my point is he is not there ONLY because his dad begged. and just because his father begged, didn't guarentee him an entry. and Not everyone whos father begged have been in.

What??I am shocked. Anyway, when I become a mother, I would specifically teach my children that it is okay to work hard and fail but not OK to lose your dignity. I guess we just have different ideologies. So lets end at that.

I read all of ur comments. Thanks for the responds =]
But I just want u all to think one more time and ask to urself. Is Indian Idol all abt personality? Guys this is Indian Idol not a Personality Idol or something.
See i don't mind u guys criticizing him on his singing but u guys r here humilating him based on his personality only by watching 2 episodes. U guys don't even know him personally and haven't even met him in real life so how could u call him gay egoistic and all that.
It's his self-pride nothing else. Ok fine let's say he was being proudy which i don't think he was but still let's say he was. In the end he said sorry and he clarified how it was not his ego that was speaking but his self-pride. IThere's a huge diff b/w an ego and a sef-pride. and those who called his father begging a cheap act i just want to say that he was not being cheap. He was just trying to help his son achieve his dream. This shows how parents are ready to even beg in order for their children's happiness. Instead of praising his dad for begging in national TV just for his son's better future u all calling this a cheap act? By doing this he just showed how great father he is and showed his love towards his son. And also to what extent some parents can go in order for their children's future
And please dont call him gay. How'd u know he is gay? Did u meet him or did he personally called and told u. Even if he is which i highly doubt there's nothing wrong w/being gay, Grow up ppl this is 21st century. Jeeezzzzzzz

Originally posted by: Twitz

and those who called his father begging a cheap act i just want to say that he was not being cheap. He was just trying to help his son achieve his dream. This shows how parents are ready to even beg in order for their children's happiness. Instead of praising his dad for begging in national TV just for his son's better future u all calling this a cheap act? By doing this he just showed how great father he is and showed his love towards his son. And also to what extent some parents can go in order for their children's future


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Exactly My point.