Haq vs Jimmedari

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Posted: 4 years ago
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one more good episode as we approach end of the week.


For a change we get continuity and then immediately disjointedness but lets not go there right now.


Kala saaya was about to spoil Aditya's date plan but i guess Sita maiyya was watching over our cuties.. Rupi didi whisked away malini just to give the needed break for both Aditya and Imlie.


The overall "DRIVE" to Babusahib's garden kitchen was cute and both Aditya and Imlie seem to enjoy the feel of the drive.. when there is nothing bothering them they are just best with each other.. When Imlie's silence gets awkward BS starts with his speech how he wants to start a life together without much thinking about the past... But imlie being the more mature among the two of them lets him know his past is tied to their future and in form of a baby.. so how does he expect to forget and move on..


Imlie immediately talked about trust and even gave him another chance to believe her.. point black told him Malini doesnt care about the baby.. and Aditya tried to make another excuse for that excuse of a woman. Imlie got up and left and I felt way to go girl. Aditya has to work his way through the web lies Malini has woven.. and he wont be able to do it if Imlie doesnt stay strong..


Malini not only accepted to herself that she doesnt want the baby but in front of imlie too.. Malini wants all her haqs d being adityas wife but the responsibility of the baby is way to much right now for her.. Its funny how she thinks that because she doesnt care for unborn child no one else doesnt either.. Imlie being imlie wants to be a mother of that kid.. and gives promise to Malini too.. Imlie apna haq nahi jatayegi lekin apni jimmedari jaroor puri karegi...


Rupi didi was on fire today.. not only she was very straight up with Malini about telling on her face that Malini doesnt care about the baby but also that Sr Ts are blinded they dont want to see any mistakes done by Malini.. Atleast throwing a seed of doubt in everyones mind (atleast I am hopeful) Imlie even then promised to ake care of the baby and thus of Malini.. this girl is just impossible..


the best scene of today was between Imlie and Aditya..


we finally get glimpse into aditya's mindset.. hi vulnerability is clearly seen.. he is so torned between what happened to him to what his future looks like.. He desperately needs Imlie by his side because he is not able to makes sense of world around him.. at the same time his guilt of betraying Imlie is over so consuming him. One side he wants to be happy about the baby any normal human will be but he cant forget the circumstances which lead to conception of the baby... He wants to have a future with Imlie but the his past baggage in form of Malini and the baby is weighting him down...


The trauma of being through something he doesnt understand to the responsibility of a baby which he is not sure if he can call his.. (he doesnt find the attachment) he is confused and that showed today and thats exactly what he has been doing for last few weeks.. trying to make sense of world around him... hopefully he sees the light...


Overall in pre-cap both BKK and Aparna seems ok with idea of pamper pering themselves.. lets see how that goes..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Edited...

Thanks for the WU and thread Seera 🤗


The date... that was being mentioned in the last few episodes..finally took place.. and must say.. Imlie behaved as expected.. said her piece of mind.. about Adi trusting her and walked off. Not angry with Adi but more disappointed, resolute that the next time she comes will be with solid proof with the hope that he would not destroy that proof.


That said, it was v cute.. how Adi tried to manao his patni who was still gussa at him. His nervousness, sweating bullets... all showed that he never ever felt this way before with gehri dost. This is the real deal. He invites Imlie for a ride on his bike and that was such a cute scene.. with him asking her to hold onto him tightly and Imlie smiling.. bashfully. The brahm..broken soon when Adi made excuses for M's behavior stating that a woman would never harm her own baby and pigs will fly.

We have seen cases of women who are mentally unstable to handle babies/kids and who have caused them irreparable harm in reality.. so.. another project taken on by the makers. They are just opening a pandora's box of all the major issues plaguing the planet.. with NO solution..in sight for any of them or wrt Adilie or the show.


Kidnapping, Trafficking, Date Rape, Lying and Emotional Blackmail, Self harm, Delusional, Uncaring about the baby.. the list goes on and on.. truly depressing themes.. with just a bit of lightness the last 2 days..


We got to see inside Adi's mind who finally expressed his real feelings.. as Sundar suggested..speak from the heart. He is torn between what M tells him to what he is feeling in his heart, unable to enjoy the happiness of becoming a father, to feeling guilt over the betrayal of I, to making erring twice, just traumatized by what happened with him. Poor guy.. let it all out and as the convo happened near M's room was worried that she was eavesdropping as is her habit of late.

M just lost her cool and let her true face show when Rupi called her out. Ofc the Sr Ts are all blind to what they are seeing under their noses.. so..

As for Adi calling Apu his 2nd kid.. the guy let it all out and was hugging his maa.. awww. this was nice.. Did Apu smile at Imlie..? Can't bear if she flips again..

As for Imlie promising to be a maa to the baby.. ooooffff.. where are your studies and dreams... dont give up on them. Hope better sense prevails on both Adilie and the Ts.

Precap was cute.As for pamparapam.. need a bit of TLC.


Happy Navaratri to those who celebrate. Busy with the festivities.

Edited by nim_var - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks seera for the thread tonight!!🤗


And there goes my 191919919th hope of garam tawa revival/mention/something...hatto! 🤧I need myself some pamparamparam..!


It is all about getting that pamparamparam now--


Rupi di does, oh she needs a spa day..she be the boss! Rupi di was lethal and rightly so. Looks like we have Rupi di in the circle of shaq for the lady who is going cuckoo over a haq!


All those T's do, for freaking tolerating Kalini's nonsense each day and each night. The way they all stand in front of her, it's like as if they are all going to salute her next! And also because they all have to eat the khichadi and every other food that will be made because- Kalini!


Imlie does because oh well she is onto her new jaap- chotu jaap and onto her new mission of taking care of Babusahib's disillusionment. Imlie will be the one guiding him out of this tunnel to the light, but the day he sees that light, it has to be AKT who will start cleaning the mess. I still stand by that.


AKT does- . We saw the pahad jaisa aadmi being so powerless. The man is angry, disappointed, frustrated and today he did portray that feeling of stuck! What I got from that scene was the man is still traumatized. He absolutely is not understanding how to react. Not sure how many more episodes of this Gash was quite brilliant here!

Also because he did manage to finally get a smile on Imlie's face, even though it lasted for a little bit. The date was short, cute and quite limited to what we were thinking it would be- . AKT did manage to tell her vaguely what his heart desires and then smack came Imlie's reality check which left Babusahib with his perpetual expression of anguish! Oh Babusahib, socho re...ab kya badam khilayen!


The director needs it, so as to relax and not provide us with shoddy direction...


The script writers do, because their brain suddenly hits a wall and we get disjointedness where, suddenly everyone is acting raat gayi baat gayi, hafta gaya track gaya...Maybe a little bit of that pamparamparam, will give us some flow.


The editor dude definitely does, because what was that voice over coming from didi ka room and where did the doctor vanish? Some spa music might help him figure out the puzzle of how to string the scenes together...


And to all of us for patiently waiting for the time to turn not back to square one...but ahead where kalini will be done...where the shadow of the moon does not hide the sun!

Edited by Whatever765 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks for the write up and thread Seera.

It was a good episode in the sense that finally we got into the head of Adi and it's becoming more and more apparent that there is no baby.

However it seemed to me that after a brief detour into nonsense - we are back to where we were before. I really don't know why the makers are so scared to let go of this triangle? It's cringy, toxic and quite honestly outstayed it's use in plot furthering. As a viewer I feel like for the last 3 months, we are stuck in a horrible rut...and as we have discussed each character being mercilessly butchered.

What I did not get and have never really understood is Adi's fear and protection for the baby? So what if there is a miscarriage - it was conceived of rape - would'nt you say thank goodness and move on? It has caused an untenable situation for Adi and still it seems like he wants the baby and Imlie as though both are equal 🤢 - to hell with all the other impacts - he has to be the most entitled and selfish man ever. Has he thought through how what he wants will impact Imlie. For her sake he needs to make a decision between the two and live with his decision.

And did I understand the dialogues today right? - he wants to love and rejoice in the child and it is guilt towards Imlie that's stopping him from enjoying his fatherhood with Malini and baby? Yuk? Sorry but that sounds way too self centred and entitled to me. I get that he has been molested and can be in some confusion, but this man is becoming more and more laachaar by the day. Pls let Imlie go and enjoy your baby with no guilt towards Imlie - you can't have your cake and eat it too!!

We need to move past this phase soon before I start losing any remaining respect I have for him. How can one be a good reporter when one cannot understand people dynamics and whats going around them - nonsense.

Now Imlie is going to do silly things to keep Malini happy for the sake of the baby. More of idiot and self sacrificing Imlie on the way. She is 100% going to be blamed for the miscarriage. Malini is getting anxious because she is lying - she wants to get Adi and there is no baby and time is running out.

We are never going to get Imlie's college journey - she is embroiled in all the dirty home laundry and she deserves it for staying. It's not her battle to fight...it's Adi's. The worst dialog today was referring to herself as Adi's wife and Malini as mother of Adi's child without puking. Has she forgotten Adi is still legally married to Malini. Ignoring some thing does not make it go away. This crap gets 2.8 TRP?

Edited by PPak - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Then

Imlie:Malini dd ka kaa hue😆

Now

Baby ka ka hue 😆

Kya progress ha bahi bbsb aik bhi bhi dhang ka decision na le paye wahen k wahen ha 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks seers 🤗


Aaj didiya ki solid baji hoon 😆. Pehle date ruin karne ka plan ka epic failure. Phir adi ko jabardasthi dr check up ke liye khinchne ka failure with rupi dragging her away🤣. Rupi didi ne phir se sab ke saamne unki pol kholi ki unke coax karne par didiya dr check up ke liye kyun nahi aayi🤣.


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Episode begins with didi spinning a yarn in front of the dr claiming she cannot remember when she spoke with him and hence cannot recall his warning about her asthma. Adi insists that the dr is telling the truth because he recalls didi getting a call from his this evening. This should have been a red flag in itself for adi because didiya told him that the dr had advised her to watch her diet😡. Didi vehemently refuses to go with the dr for a checkup and tells imlu she called him bekaar me. Adi responds that imlu did the right thing and insists on taking her for a check up with the dr. Didiya ka khwaab of dragging adi away from imlu for a check up is dashed when rupi didi drags her away like a boss telling adi she will take her🤣.


The terrace date begins with adi awkwardly telling imlu aaj tum bohoth acchi lag rahi ho. Imaginary bike ride begins after adi says hum tumhe kahi le jaana chahthe hain😆. Bike start karaake boltha hai imlu ko baith jaoo is se pehle ki tel karach ho jaaye😆. Imaginary bike ho brake lagaake imlu ko pakad lene ke liye bhi boltha hai with a shy imlu holding onto him and resting her cheek on his back😳. They eventually reach babusahibs garden kitchen where bs doubles up as the waiter to seat his jhalli also letting her know that sab kuch mufath hai everything is on the house🤣. Yahan pe bhi unki kanjoosi kaam aai gawa😆. Lovely scene❤️.


Imlu is smiling away at her goofy bs through all this. Bs gets worried about her not saying anything to which she says bilkul alag hai date. Then he talks longingly about wanting a nayi zindagi , wanting to start every day with her beetha hua past ko bulaakar. Imlu gets emo and responds that bs ka beetha huwa kal aaye waale kal se jud chuka hai😭. Even if she did samjhautha with beetha hua kal wo is baath se samjautha nahi kar sakthi ki adi bs us pe vishwas nahi karthe hai😭🤗. So he chooses to hear her out seeing how distraught she is. Imlu tells him the truth that didi ko bacche ki phikar nahi hai and is deliberately not taking care of herself. Adi acknowledges that he did notice didis insistence to do pooja despite dhua and that she has always been emotionally kamzor and unstable. But his mom has always said that duniya ki sabse buti aurath bhi jaan bhujke apne bacche ke saath kuch bura nahi kar sakthi. So there is foreshadowing yet again that didi will use the real or fake baby to frame a miscarriage on imlu😭


Imlu is distraught that bs refused to believe her yet again and says it is her fault to have talked about didis intentions without sabhooth😭. She walks away telling him she will bring sabooth and hopes that this time when she does he will not mitao the sabooth. Adi is upset at himself for making her even more upset.


Back in the guest room didiya is stalling rupi from taking her a check up. Cant say if it is because she is hiding something or if its because of her psychotic obsession to hang on to adi at any cost so she can keep imlu away from him🤢. Imlu does a funny impersonation of mrs.c and tricks didiya into letting her into the room🤣. Imlu insists on taking her to the dr to which didi bhadak jaathi hai. Admits she wants to be adis wife first, get all her haq and then only be a mom🤢. Imlu asks her to be ashamed to be prioritizing how to attain adi over her own unborn child. Didi says mai sirf aditya ko chahthi hoon, unko apna banana chahthi hoon aur wo main karke rahoongi🤢. Imlu promises to take jimmedaari of the baccha if didi will not do it and swears to give the baccha maa with maa ki mamtha regardless of how the situation is with adi.


The entire t fam is with didiya in her room. Apu is advising her to take good care of her health and baccha to which didiya responds ji maa😡. Rupi didi solid bajaathi hai malini ki in front of the entire family detailing how he refused to go to a drs checkup with her🤣 and putting on an act in front of apu. She also says she does not think didiya cares about the baby👏. Rupi gets reprimanded by apudha for saying all this to didi to which she responds saying they are blind to didiyas galthiyaan😆. Didiya responds rudely to rupi didi saying depend kartha hai ki kaun us se baath kar raha hai cleverly spinning saying apu ne us se pyaar se baath ki. Rupi responds saying mujhe pyaar se baath karna kiski beti sikha rahi hai 🤣 to which didiya literally yells her head off. Imlu diffuses the situation that the entire t fam is here to take of baccha including bacche ki mausi and that she has promised didiya that she will care for the baby. Radha mooning over didiya says she needs rest and sab ko kat lena hai from her room for now. Nn walks out after taunting didiya to have good thoughts so that baby par asar naa pade 🤣.


Adi poor guy is noticeably traumatized by didiyas tamasha and walks out saying good night. Imlu notices this and asks bs why he stopped himself from saying anything to didiya. Adi tells imlu that he is confused. He has not even recovered from the trauma of intoxication kaand and something or the other has been happening since then. He has still not been able to accept the fact that he is going to be a father. He feels like he is giving dhoka to imlu if he tries to talk to didiya and is not able to sambhalo gharelu maamle. He is so disturbed by the situation ki wo pitha hone ki khushiyaan nahi mana saktha and is sad about being a gira huwa pathi. Imlu is worried about bs being stuck between being a pitha pathi responsibility on the one side and didiya on the other. Imlu decides to do something kyunki didiya amma hone ka faraz nibhaane ke bajaayr siraf bs ko paana chathi hai. Lovely performance by gm in this scene.


The next morning adi asks his mom for his lunch box where he gets ubli huwi sabzi aur khichdi to which adi says humaare liye kuch accha banaiye naa kyunki hum preggers nahi hai🤣. Apu taunts him to cook his own food if he cannot appreciate her mehnath and adi promises to learn cooking for the two bacchas he has to take care of one of them being his mom🤣. Masthi ke baad he asks apu to pack a lunch for imlu as well so he can drop her to her college. Leaves his lunch box and imlu who has been watching maa beta talk is smiling to herself thinking he wants to drop her despite the fact that she is so mad at him😳.


Imlu on her way past didiyas room overhears her talking to herself that she has to go to college with adi despite her weakness. She decides to do something to prevent didiya from risking the baby with her irresponsible behavior.


Precap me pamparamparam urf pamper karne ka plan bana raili hai apni imlu for ghar ki aurathen🤣. English teacher adi corrects her saying pamper and she says goodbye to adi who is one of the paresan karne waale men wa group ka ek launda🤣. Adi walks away with a slight smile on his face.

Edited by wizardofoz2 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks seera ji for thread.

They are slightly showing AKT’s trauma & all.

He feels the guilt of wrong he done to imlie even he is unaware.

Seriously Malini is such a pathetic vamp . If there is no baby he will not look up to Malini even before seeing video he was like that & after it he definitely going to give any courtesy to Malini.

He can’t create any attachment to baby other than responsibility till.

Didi is not only vile but also have no common sense … she was admitted again to T house in name of baby. If she is careless about baby & no baby is there what she will get??

Edited by Midnight_moon - 4 years ago
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Edited and updated:


I liked the epi today cos it had some lightness with the whole date shate. The bachpana of the whole thing and adis excitement and imlie going along for his happiness.. was so dhil sukoon.. these two need very little else but each other really . Just time together and each other’s saath.. now comes the whole conversation during the date which I also liked how imlie brought her bs back to the underlying matter. The baby is a part of the past and the future without this we can’t look at our future and from there she dived into Didi and her complete irresponsibliliy. I guess they could have spoken about so much more like what has happened since janamastami but right now imlies antennae’s are up on didi’s stupidity so the flow seemed fitting. I did like how imlie brought in the trust issue and took a step back from the date that right now the baby is number one and nothing else. For me now this whole trust issue will only be resolved with fake pregnancy ( and yes whatever other chops I have had or could have on whether bs is really as dumb as they made him and he lost his reporter skills) this I would like to hold on to. The baby will only stay around till Didi feels adi is hers then the baby is gone, if I am right then fake miscarriage and if wrong then self harm.. this is of course her assuming that no one will Catch her out, if it unfortunately is real then it is a sad portrayal of Didi and nothing can we her anymore.



I also liked bs how spilled out some of his hurt and disgust with the whole thing.. for me it is still understated. He is oscillating between being ok but also these bouts of gilts and regrets. But at least now the family is accepting imlies place in his life abd no one is forcing Didi on him. This Didi is still failing to see that eventhough apu and that useless bade kaki is abiding concern it’s all baby related. They don’t see her as adi wife and won’t be pushing for it going forward so Didi is going to live in delusions .

overall I like how imlie stepped up to take responsibility about the baby but it’s sad that at 19yrs she is saddled with this because of her really physcho sister…and u can see that despite her decision to stay strong.. this whole trust issue since janamastami is really taking her toll.. this girl determination to prove Didi wrong and hope bs believes her us eating into her slowly.. sigh and what was that whole speech no matter what adi must be mine first and then only I will think about the baby.. it kinda of cemented my thoughts all this while that the baby is not real but let’s see.her nasal kaliness is due to what.. I know it’s a product of sexual assault and Didi is despicable but a baby is still innocent and how can adi or imlie ignore that. Don’t get me wrong Didi must abd should be punished but not at the expense of the baby.



Edited by Rollingdeep - 4 years ago
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you should you should. varna main akeli padjaungi to get the chops.

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Today, I don't want to discuss Adi cuz I clearly am bad at reading his expressions.

But DD.. What was that in the room with Rupi?

I'll need some time to digest that

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