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Posted: 10 years ago
#51
@sush,sahir is still not over from zeenat bcoz his relation wid her was left half way done his anger his anxiety his aggression over wat zeenat did just in a flick of time n thats wat we saw him groaning in intensive pain n aggression jus to show him once that he too is much stronger then wat she thinks!!
he waited for her 7 years jus to fullfill that promise to remove that spot which zeenat questioned on his potentiality of being an established person at some point of time,

but the most amzing thing i liked is, he hated evrything related to zeenat but nevr left his first love thats his poetry😎,
ahl-e- danish ne bahut soch ker
uljhaya hai is gutthi ko


well no comments on saaz scenes as less said is better😉☺️,finally liked the execution work of the team but more then that shivya HC did a fab job in inacting it
@shweta, loved ur collages damm good😳😛
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Leesan

By Sush:"I am not sure if I should say this here...but why did I feel Sahir is so not over Zeenat!!! Even though he came close to Arzoo...Zeenat still affects him ...a LOT! There is a long way to go..."


Leesan: You're not alone Sush, I have the exact same feeling. There's a definite aura of unfinished business between Sahir and Zeenat , and it's not just marital but emotional. And depending on how long the show lasts, this dynamic may be played out. Sigh! Poor Arzoo, she's fallen hook line and sinker,her heart will crumble if Sahir appears conflicted if/ when Zee begs and beseeches him for another chance. Groan...please cvs don't subject the viewers and Arzoo to that humiliation! With all her shortcomings ...she really doesn't deserve it ...and neither do we!!

As for Sahir... truth is ,as many friends have said " there's just that one girl" or " that one guy!" The one that got away! That one person in your life whom no matter how much time has passed or what has happened since , they still affect you in ways that you can't quite explain or understand. They might have been an ex , or just an old friend or even an acquaintance , but years later you can still feel that squeeze in the pit of your stomach, when that person crosses your mind. You curse yourself for feeling that way, but you have no control over it, that person remains embedded in your heart / mind somewhere, no matter how hard you try to erase it. Trust me, I know it firsthand. Mr. Lee was that person, "that one guy" for me ,for a long time ( and I for him!). And we never even dated all that time, strange I know, but all's well that ends well, right?

I think Zeenat may be that one girl for Sahir, he loved her immensely, unconditionally, probably throughout his childhood even. His first intense love, he seemed so eager to please her, begging her to love him back in a way. Yet she is adamant ,refuses and rejects him ! That rejection leaves a deep scar , and sometimes only serves to make the person love the other even more. Maybe Sahir never got the answers he needed from Zeenat,due to the accident, and was just left licking his wounds , unable and unwilling to move forward. Perhaps all he craves is closure ,lets hope that's all it is, and he makes his intentions very clear ,because I detest the thought of both love struck Arzoo and wily Zeenat vying for a conflicted Sahir's attention . I won't be able to stomach those scenes, so fingers crossed. And please tell me there's something more to account for all this deep dark angst, self deprivation and self harm. Please tell me it's not just an errant,thoughtless and selfish wife?? Maybe he witnessed his parents deaths? An abusive childhood perhaps? Sigh.

Thanks for the thread Sush, and wonderful work as usual Shweta!


Leesie!!! You are very right...Feelings can not be explained with logic...you can't say...this person is good...good to you...you should feel more strongly about her...that person is a bad person...has been bad to you...you feel less strongly about her...it just doesn't work that way...

Saahirs feelings for Zeenat...even though we can not call it love...are stronger ...

Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53
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I was rather disappointed with episode as a whole. Yes good thing past is revealed but I was like that's it? Are you kidding me, the intensity Sahir has shown from day 1, this much doesn't support it 👎🏼 Then my mom goes they will have more, don't worry ! I was like whatever! And whole almost scene, whatever 🥱 I want to see Sahir's public humiliation by Zeenat for being who he was - then I will say ok now we are moving. Not saying whatever took place in past wasn't bad. Yes it was but so what ! Are you ppl saying Sahir was just so emotionally weak and innocent 😕
See that's why you should not get married very young, Male's brain doesn't fully develop till age 25 and then proper maturity kicks in ! look me trying to show science in lubb 😆

Also that dialogue, dard ka rishta - for the love of god what the hell do you mean? Who said dard ka rishta bada hota he? If same writer wrote Sahir's poems no wonder Zeenat got bored 😆

Now let's quick words for characters 😉
KA - hay me bichari, meri zeenat gir gayi, Sahir tu andar kuch kare usse pehle me aa gayi, mere pass aur koi kaam yah dialogue hi nahi he kya karu, hay me bichari 😭
Zeenat - past - I am so sexy, poetry and painting doesn't cut it for me, give me money and be my honey ! present - me marke bhi zinda hu, jo meri property he (read boy otoy) koi nahi le sakta!
Arzoo - Sahir aap dard me he, Arzoo dear hum viewers log bhi dard me and unlike Sahir I like hot chocolate 😛
Sahir - my past is painful, I am bound by a promise, now don't ask me too much abt it as those who made me still have no clue - hey it almost rhymes, see I'm a poet
Oh you ppl complain abt my story not being good enough, let me take my shirt off and see anyone cares ☢️
And to my dear biwi - let's be honest, my zufe are better than urs, if show goes for few more months my zulfe be longer than urs ! Afterall song is made for me, udde jab jab zulfe teri kawariyon, arre not just kawariyon sabhika dil machal machal jaye 😎
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: jay_bpm

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I was rather disappointed with episode as a whole. Yes good thing past is revealed but I was like that's it? Are you kidding me, the intensity Sahir has shown from day 1, this much doesn't support it 👎🏼 Then my mom goes they will have more, don't worry ! I was like whatever! And whole almost scene, whatever 🥱 I want to see Sahir's public humiliation by Zeenat for being who he was - then I will say ok now we are moving. Not saying whatever took place in past wasn't bad. Yes it was but so what ! Are you ppl saying Sahir was just so emotionally weak and innocent 😕
See that's why you should not get married very young, Male's brain doesn't fully develop till age 25 and then proper maturity kicks in ! look me trying to show science in lubb 😆

Also that dialogue, dard ka rishta - for the love of god what the hell do you mean? Who said dard ka rishta bada hota he? If same writer wrote Sahir's poems no wonder Zeenat got bored 😆

Now let's quick words for characters 😉
KA - hay me bichari, meri zeenat gir gayi, Sahir tu andar kuch kare usse pehle me aa gayi, mere pass aur koi kaam yah dialogue hi nahi he kya karu, hay me bichari 😭
Zeenat - past - I am so sexy, poetry and painting doesn't cut it for me, give me money and be my honey ! present - me marke bhi zinda hu, jo meri property he (read boy otoy) koi nahi le sakta!
Arzoo - Sahir aap dard me he, Arzoo dear hum viewers log bhi dard me and unlike Sahir I like hot chocolate 😛
Sahir - my past is painful, I am bound by a promise, now don't ask me too much abt it as those who made me still have no clue - hey it almost rhymes, see I'm a poet
Oh you ppl complain abt my story not being good enough, let me take my shirt off and see anyone cares ☢️
And to my dear biwi - let's be honest, my zufe are better than urs, if show goes for few more months my zulfe be longer than urs ! Afterall song is made for me, udde jab jab zulfe teri kawariyon, arre not just kawariyon sabhika dil machal machal jaye 😎

@bold,that was way too good, jay🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Lovely post Sush👏👏 .. Amazing collages Swetha .. can never feel tired of praising u 👏👏

Just want to mention that for Sahir to let go off Zeenat , he first needs to solve the puzzle named Zeenat .. there r many unanswered questions related to Zeenat which is bothering him for last 7 yrs and unless he finds those answers , Zeenat will keep haunting his memories in a negative way .. And the biggest puzzle about Zeenat is why did she marry him if she never wanted a poet or a shayar as her husband .. was her love fake then ? was there someone else in her life even before she married him ? so what was her main intention of marrying him ? I bet these r the questions which is haunting Sahir all this while and unless he finds the answers to this question , she will keep haunting him not because he still loves her but because these questions about her haunts his overall identity ..

And I m saying this based on the spoiler video I saw where Sahir is asking question to Anam about Zeenat ..



Hey Jyoti...thanks so much for stopping by...! 😃

Yeah...I read some people mention this puzzle...I wasn't sure where that is coming from...but people marry for all sorts of wrong reasons...and fall out of love...It happens! I don't get why it affects him that much...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: jay_bpm

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I was rather disappointed with episode as a whole. Yes good thing past is revealed but I was like that's it? Are you kidding me, the intensity Sahir has shown from day 1, this much doesn't support it 👎🏼 Then my mom goes they will have more, don't worry ! I was like whatever! And whole almost scene, whatever 🥱 I want to see Sahir's public humiliation by Zeenat for being who he was - then I will say ok now we are moving. Not saying whatever took place in past wasn't bad. Yes it was but so what ! Are you ppl saying Sahir was just so emotionally weak and innocent 😕
See that's why you should not get married very young, Male's brain doesn't fully develop till age 25 and then proper maturity kicks in ! look me trying to show science in lubb 😆

Also that dialogue, dard ka rishta - for the love of god what the hell do you mean? Who said dard ka rishta bada hota he? If same writer wrote Sahir's poems no wonder Zeenat got bored 😆

Now let's quick words for characters 😉
KA - hay me bichari, meri zeenat gir gayi, Sahir tu andar kuch kare usse pehle me aa gayi, mere pass aur koi kaam yah dialogue hi nahi he kya karu, hay me bichari 😭
Zeenat - past - I am so sexy, poetry and painting doesn't cut it for me, give me money and be my honey ! present - me marke bhi zinda hu, jo meri property he (read boy otoy) koi nahi le sakta!
Arzoo - Sahir aap dard me he, Arzoo dear hum viewers log bhi dard me and unlike Sahir I like hot chocolate 😛
Sahir - my past is painful, I am bound by a promise, now don't ask me too much abt it as those who made me still have no clue - hey it almost rhymes, see I'm a poet
Oh you ppl complain abt my story not being good enough, let me take my shirt off and see anyone cares ☢️
And to my dear biwi - let's be honest, my zufe are better than urs, if show goes for few more months my zulfe be longer than urs ! Afterall song is made for me, udde jab jab zulfe teri kawariyon, arre not just kawariyon sabhika dil machal machal jaye 😎


🤣

YOU ARE a HOOT, Jay!!!😆😆😆

Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: jay_bpm

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I was rather disappointed with episode as a whole. Yes good thing past is revealed but I was like that's it? Are you kidding me, the intensity Sahir has shown from day 1, this much doesn't support it👎🏼Then my mom goes they will have more, don't worry ! I was like whatever! And whole almost scene, whatever🥱I want to see Sahir's public humiliation by Zeenat for being who he was - then I will say ok now we are moving. Not saying whatever took place in past wasn't bad. Yes it was but so what ! Are you ppl saying Sahir was just so emotionally weak and innocent😕
See that's why you should not get married very young, Male's brain doesn't fully develop till age 25 and then proper maturity kicks in ! look me trying to show science in lubb😆

Also that dialogue, dard ka rishta - for the love of god what the hell do you mean? Who said dard ka rishta bada hota he? If same writer wrote Sahir's poems no wonder Zeenat got bored😆

Now let's quick words for characters😉
KA - hay me bichari, meri zeenat gir gayi, Sahir tu andar kuch kare usse pehle me aa gayi, mere pass aur koi kaam yah dialogue hi nahi he kya karu, hay me bichari😭
Zeenat - past - I am so sexy, poetry and painting doesn't cut it for me, give me money and be my honey ! present - me marke bhi zinda hu, jo meri property he (read boy otoy) koi nahi le sakta!
Arzoo - Sahir aap dard me he, Arzoo dear hum viewers log bhi dard me and unlike Sahir I like hot chocolate😛
Sahir - my past is painful, I am bound by a promise, now don't ask me too much abt it as those who made me still have no clue - hey it almost rhymes, see I'm a poet
Oh you ppl complain abt my story not being good enough, let me take my shirt off and see anyone cares☢️
And to my dear biwi - let's be honest, my zufe are better than urs, if show goes for few more months my zulfe be longer than urs ! Afterall song is made for me, udde jab jab zulfe teri kawariyon, arre not just kawariyon sabhika dil machal machal jaye😎



🤣 Saahir zulfein 😆

By the way Jay you actually turned shayar for the show 👏 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: tirchinazar

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Sush, I liked the episode yesterday. However, I do feel Zeenat doesnt affect Sahir anymore else he wouldnt have got intimate with Arzoo. This is because earlier when he got close to Arzoo during their jungle trip, he came back and punished himself. This time around, he took the first step.

Currently, he is trying to solve the puzzle called Zeenat and hence he addressed Arzoo as Zeenat.

Also, my version of the entire mystery is as below
Sahir's father and Zeenat's father may have done business together. For some reason, Sahir has lost his parents and after Zeenat's mother's mysterious death, her father married Alvira and also got Sahir to the family.Zeenat and Sahir grew up together. fell in love and got married. Eventually Zeenat lost interest in Sahir. I have a feeling thet the property has been shifted to Sahirs name by her father and hence she continued her marriage with him and went on to do other things like partying, getting drunk etc.


I agree. I think clearly, she does not affect him anymore. When KA gives her hand to Sahir and he walks away, it's an indication clearly that he has moved on.. But being Sahir he is concerned abt her safety.. And yes her bitter words did provide him a purpose in his life all these years.. So it's not easy to let go..
Earlier in the almost kiss scene, Sahir was embarrassed by his own actions but here he took the initiative.. Which clearly tells that it's only Arzoo for him now. I also remember the scene where he says "meri biwi tum ho" when he gets interrupted.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: jay_bpm

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I was rather disappointed with episode as a whole. Yes good thing past is revealed but I was like that's it? Are you kidding me, the intensity Sahir has shown from day 1, this much doesn't support it 👎🏼 Then my mom goes they will have more, don't worry ! I was like whatever! And whole almost scene, whatever 🥱 I want to see Sahir's public humiliation by Zeenat for being who he was - then I will say ok now we are moving. Not saying whatever took place in past wasn't bad. Yes it was but so what ! Are you ppl saying Sahir was just so emotionally weak and innocent 😕
See that's why you should not get married very young, Male's brain doesn't fully develop till age 25 and then proper maturity kicks in ! look me trying to show science in lubb 😆

Also that dialogue, dard ka rishta - for the love of god what the hell do you mean? Who said dard ka rishta bada hota he? If same writer wrote Sahir's poems no wonder Zeenat got bored 😆

Now let's quick words for characters 😉
KA - hay me bichari, meri zeenat gir gayi, Sahir tu andar kuch kare usse pehle me aa gayi, mere pass aur koi kaam yah dialogue hi nahi he kya karu, hay me bichari 😭
Zeenat - past - I am so sexy, poetry and painting doesn't cut it for me, give me money and be my honey ! present - me marke bhi zinda hu, jo meri property he (read boy otoy) koi nahi le sakta!
Arzoo - Sahir aap dard me he, Arzoo dear hum viewers log bhi dard me and unlike Sahir I like hot chocolate 😛
Sahir - my past is painful, I am bound by a promise, now don't ask me too much abt it as those who made me still have no clue - hey it almost rhymes, see I'm a poet
Oh you ppl complain abt my story not being good enough, let me take my shirt off and see anyone cares ☢️
And to my dear biwi - let's be honest, my zufe are better than urs, if show goes for few more months my zulfe be longer than urs ! Afterall song is made for me, udde jab jab zulfe teri kawariyon, arre not just kawariyon sabhika dil machal machal jaye 😎


I personally found that dialogue pathetic! If thats the case than even Saahir and Zeenat share a dard ka rishta! Why can't they be soulmates?
Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: humsafarsclub


I agree. I think clearly, she does not affect him anymore. When KA gives her hand to Sahir and he walks away, it's an indication clearly that he has moved on.. But being Sahir he is concerned abt her safety.. And yes her bitter words did provide him a purpose in his life all these years.. So it's not easy to let go..
Earlier in the almost kiss scene, Sahir was embarrassed by his own actions but here he took the initiative.. Which clearly tells that it's only Arzoo for him now. I also remember the scene where he says "meri biwi tum ho" when he gets interrupted.


Hi HS Club and TN...thank you for posting! To me...getting over someone is stop caring about what they thought, think...and stop letting it affect you...yes, he wants to move on with Arzoo...but he hasn't closed the door completely on Zeenat...she occupies his thoughts, his ambition, his attention...his feelings...he still has to get over that...
Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago

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