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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Bujee09

Lovely write up n collages ladies 👏

And yes a GOOD START 👍🏼 for this week ..I so loved the first few minutes of the episode when Sahir rushes back to find out what was wrong in his grand proposal 😉

And that was BANG ON dialogues today from Aarzoo👍🏼 ...she literally pleaded him ''I have seen so much now u dont start a new game all over again 😭 TOUCHED ****

Coming to Sahir and his analogy with a knife was indeed innovative yet a head spin of how he is actually planning to take up Aarzoo to a next level in upcoming episodes 😲

So am literally getting torn apart between these two kiddos Sahir n Aarzoo in the entire D game 😭

#Sahir is all evil shaded now and am loving it 😈 only thinking how his transformation is going to be in future when Aarzoo takes him on a RIDE after his master plans are revealed 😃

#Aarzoo I somehow feel she is in a SOOPER DOOPER dilemma ...😕

Putting myself on her shoes this is what I get : I love someone , I like his presence , I care for him ,I can go to any extent for his respect , I get insulted I get manhandled but still my heart goes out to him , I dont know a thing about his past I cannot understand him I cannot rely on him all of sudden he proposes and from then he changes his attitude towards me and promises to be all nice to me 😲


Man this is damm interesting at the same time scary now 👍🏼...as in spoiler there is a pool drama coming up hope it lives upto our expectations






I agree , if we put ourselves in Aarzoo's shoes , it is indeed scary because firstly u dont understand what made u fall for such a guy 😆 and secondly the more u will try to know about this guy , more mysterious and upnredictable he becomes 😆 .. No wonder Aarzoo is in dilemma and unable to understand the real Sahir when Sahir himself is unable to understand what actually he wants in reality ... We know he wants the deal at any cost but is it the only thing he wants here or there is something that he himself does not know ? 🤔

In all this I do see Aarzoo healing his wounds amidst all the love drama (like for eg today he starts eating parathas instead of burnt toast because Aarzoo made it as per E24) ... whereas Aarzoo might become another Sahir once she finds out about his betrayal ... I do see a role reversal coming in future now ... Aarzoo might turn him into old Sahir and leave all heartbroken .. she may lose all faith in love due to this betrayal just how Sahir lost faith in love due to Zeenat's betrayal .. So then it will b upto Sahir to restore her faith in love once again just how she restored his faith in love once again 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
the only confusion i have is that how come everyone is saying he is faking love when he actually loves her. i know this is a really dumb question 😛 i'm serious though
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: redviolet




@bluejalpari

For starters Im glad you appreciate my thoughts as much as I appreciate yours! I completely agree anti-heroes are fine, in fact I have even empathized with them in the past. But as you said they need greater reason to be anti-heroes. After Arzoo'speech Saahir only really valid reason left which is his promise to Zeenat the girl who could care less about him yet he still cares so much for her and what she said about him. LOSER much? It was one thing if he felt she was a gold digger but again there was not enough foundation laid for that. Again I have seen shows in the past where the villains and unfortunate circumstances managed to get the female lead in a solid trap. Here things just didn't add up.

About the choking, I wouldn't be surprised at all. If he could care less about destroying his brother's entire life and not doing any valid inquiry on Samaira, if he could care less before buring the factory and not the hundreds of people that might go jobless and homless as a result, than who guarantee he even cares about human life. I wouldn't be shocked at all they have set new lows for Saahir in each passing episode.

About the redemption track, than neither Gul Khan nor Saureb or other current show makers know how to execute a redemption track. If there was one person who knew how to show a redemption track, believe it or not we might hate her for other reason but it was Ekta Kapoor. Angad destroyed his entire career to make Kripa smile after he realized he had mistaken her for a gold digger. And in that show there was solid foundation laid for him to think that way. Sujal spent time in jail for Kashish. Today's show makers don't even understand the definition of redemption forget about showing a redemption track. Saureb is at least a male but Gul Khan is a women I wonder what she gains out of degrading women so much in her shows?

I agree Saahir has no right on what to decide for Zaki and Arzoo. He might be their financial support but that does not mean he owns them. He is playing with many different lives and emotions at once INTENTIONALLY out of no other reason than his ego. They have really gone grey with the male lead this time. Here I was expecting a more mature character and a more mature love story.





Both u guys hv real strong points ... I m only hanging onto a hope that Sahir has a very big reason for fulfilling this so called promise for which he can go to such extremes ... if they can give a valid explanation here about why he wants to fulfill this promise with such desperation , then mayb to some extent we can sympathise with Sahir or else he may loose all the sympathy after playing such nasty games with a girl's emotions in the name of a promise

And yes there r no enough reasons anymore why he should think she is a gold digger especially when she refused him point blank even after he gave her those expensive gifts .. And this makes me believe that mayb he does not really consider her a gold digger anymore but is continuing with his act just to make sure Zaki marries Sam so that in future he can actually marry Aarzoo .. I m assuming he has actually fallen for her and so somewhere in his subconscious mind he also wants Aarzoo for himself 🤔... its a selfish yet normal human trait to want the girl for yourself when u r in love with her and know that somewhere even the girl wants u or else she would not mind such intimacy during her birthday celebration ..

Having said that , nothing really can explain Sahir's actions now the way he is manipulating things and playing with a girl's emotions who already has a bad past with her father's betrayal and he knows it .. So a simple sorry wont work here .. CVs got to show a proper redemption track in this case ... Once he said he cannot see tears in her eyes but does he realise that he might end up giving her only tears for lifetime once she finds out about his betrayal ...




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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: aishu_25

If everything was straight forward then mazaa kaise ayega?show 1 week main khatam ho jayega Na? I really love this undisputed Badshah to the core and yes like u mentioned.. Now his focus is to get the deal done and get Zaks married to Sam! Arzoo ko Kuch bhi ho, in the end he will take care of her! I'm loving this track so much!



I guess thats how he thinks that once he gets done with Zaki issue , he will make up to Aarzoo and take care of her .,. but his plan might take a beating if Zaki spills out the beans to Aarzoo before that
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Junoonian

Lovely lovely analysis Jyoti :).

I too noticed the right n authority with which he barged in n took her arm.
And Arzoo... she made up for about two weeks of silent stupidity here.
Zaki ... less said the better. But she is sending him mixed signals by allowing him that freedom. He is in for a heartbreak. She is in for a heartbreak. Sahir is heartbreak personified.
I am going to b travelling for two weeks starting tomorrow so will miss your updates.😭 already having severe humsafars withdrawal symptoms. 😕




And in all this we viewers too r in for some major heartbreaks seeing SaAz suffer 😭😭

Only if Aarzoo told Sahir about pregnency secret ..

Only if Sahir asked Aarzoo about what she feels for Zaki

Only if Zaki asked Aarzoo about whether she loves him or not

Life would hv been so simple for all 3 😆😆

And have a safe trip ... dont worry .. u can always comeback and catch up 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: TaanuDeewani

Awesome post as always Jyothi!! Beautiful collages Swetha!!



thanks a lot dear 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: ecrivain



Jyo wonderful post and I will be as honest as I can be
I liked the scene where ARZOO speaks up for once I am ok with he talking n Something tht makes Sense

But why followed n the epi belonged to sahir n not her ..

U know my only issue here is while sahir is flawed he is relatable
..but with cvs ruining ARZOO tue essence of the love story Is lost ...I never wanted them to deal with zaki n ARZOO this way ...it's not clicking n the TRPs are a proof of tht 😆

I just hope they slowly get she show back on track n now beat arnd the bush ...it won't be good for the show it seems now



I think trps would hv remained this only even if Aarzoo and Zaki track was not there ... its Sony who is at fault more than the show ...

To b honest these days I can relate to Aarzoo more than Sahir and the reason is the way Sahir is stooping so low playing these games when the irony is once he was played in similar way by Zeenat and so he knows how it feels and he himself said he hates lies .. so what is he doing today .. using lie for his benefits ?

I really hope Sahir's character is redeemed from here onwards because on FB or twitter if u see general audience feedback , I do see many r going mad for butchering Sahir overnight by making him play these nasty games .. I mean today he might even try to choke her for his benefits ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: pria4ever

nice post and beautiful collage as usual😊 Jyoti and Shwetha really appreciate ur efforts😊

firstly, i want the CVs to show some flashback scenes of Sahir-Zeenat...i know once this game of betrayal is revealed, the focus will be on Sahirs past for sure...however atleast 1 scene should do no harm...till now they are showing only 2 scenes n that too does not show any relevance to Sahirs present day behaviour...

I agree .. we need to know some details of Zeenat-Sahir story before we can assume further on his current behaviour 😕

ur 1st point in the post...well, atleast this daily soap is going in a pace which is digestable...else we have the Gopi bahus and Aksharas,whose dupatta will fly in episode 1 and still will be flying till episode 15😆😆...sorry but dont watch too much of the shows, but got hooked on this one coz its a dark love story and not the regular mushy mushy one😆...

I do agree here 😆... its much better than those emotional atyaachar wale shows 😆😆


Sahir, well he did mean when he said ki 'mein khud ko bhej dunga is deal ke liye' he proved it...but at the cost of Aarzoo...woh toh muft ki loot gayi😆

haan he is selling himself off with Aarzoo in package deal 😆

Any girl, would have lost her senses...if subjected the way Sahir treated Aarzoo on her birthday...it was just a dream...but Aarzoo was able to contain herself and walk with her head held high- that was the stealer scene for me...she is clear of the person she wants in her life and to know that the person she loves is teh one who just proposed her, however the mask he wears is what she doesnt agree to...👏 her choice of words were apt...and Sahir knew over there, this is not an easy game...deep down he knows who Aarzoo is...he trusts her innocence and he believes her...but he has some hurt deep inside of him, that has not healed...hence arises the trust issues...phew can i commend both HC and SP for being so gud in the scene👏... Sahir holds Aarzoo with authority...she has a calming effect on him...no denying tat...he entered the room with all guns blazing but after hearing what Aarzoo said, was quiet...lol not the 1st time she managed to do that😉

Exactly .. she left with her head high and thats when Sahir knew that Aarzoo is not those typical girls who will go weak seeing those expensive gifts .. her morales and principles r different .. he will hv to try something else to woo her ... there is a trust issue for sure and so though he knows Aarzoo is innocent but he is not able to trust her on face value ... or mayb he trusts her but is keeping aside his trust for the sake of this deal knowing its future consequences .. and yes first time all he did was listen to someone else because he knew she was right here 😉😳

many here say,Aarzoo ,if she has to be his humsafar, has to heal him not put him in more pain...but seriously, how can one heal u, without knowing what your problem is, what ur hurt is? and whenever she asks him ,he snaps out...how can Aarzoo be Sahirs humsafar,if Sahir wont open his hurt to her? Sahir very smartly gave the example of the knife...one side being sharp and the other pointless...he knows how to play with words...Shayaarbaaz hai afterall😳

exactly .. for her to heal him , she needs to know about his pain first ... also I feel even without knowing his pain , she will heal him .. she will make him fall in love again which is the biggest healing , isn't it 😳 .. she will turn him into a shayar again , she will make him eat normal food again which we saw in E24 already 😳 .. so she is already healing him ... It will b later his turn to heal her woulds that he is giving her now with this betrayal which will leave her heartbroken in future


now coming to the office scene...i take offence to that and i wish Sahir had not done it...here its a question of her dreams...see, Aarzoo came to Mumbai, with a dream of becoming a designbaaz...topmost designer of India...but then cupid struck and she became ishqbaaz😆..but over here she has a control over herself...she walking away from Sahirs proposal, even saying that she knows taht Sahir will forget this in a day, whereas for her it will be the best memory of her life...so i guess a heartbreak she will be able to take in...as she knows whats in store for her in future...however her dreams...when dreams crash...confidence ki vaat lag jaati hai...and the only thing that could help her recover from her heartbreak will be her setback...if she gets to know that Mr Arora was Sahirs set up..wont she doubt her credibility? she may start feeling taht everything shes getting is because of some hidden agenda...i maybe wrong here...but i feel its wrong to play with ones dreams...

yes it was definitely a mean thing to do ... she will definitely loose her confidence and will doubt her credibility too .. I wont b surprised if she plans to go back to Lucknow after the truth comes out ... I do see Sahir going behind her to lucknow to do the damage control then ... Sahir has almost gone blind in his quest for this deal

my Tom n Jerry...Sahir-Rehman😆😆😆 how awesome was that scene..Sahir calling him a beggar😆 n Rehman saying,'aapki yeh ada bhi humko pasand ayi' 😆😆...loved the 'badshah' dialogue...guess i'm in love with badshahs only😆😆 anyways...the badshah only forgot that the begum will be the game changer in the end...😉😳

Rehman gets the best one liners out of Sahir always 😆😆 .. and Rehman is a much better and smarter villain than the likes of Anam or KA 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: skanda12

@Jyoti: I loved your three posts today (and whoever is giving the picture collages is doing a fine job of collecting exactly the best pictures!👏

Waise, Jyoti, what was the need for Sahir to get a fake client to do some dialogue-giri just to give Arzoo the impression that Sahir is SO VERY VERY helpful to her life?😲
That was a bit over the top. But let that be! We have to be ready for some little silliness every day by the Creatives!

I think it was a mean act from Sahit but not exactly silly because mayb Sahir realised that Aarzoo will not melt with just expensive gifts and celebrations .. she is not materialistic .. so the way to her heart got to b the caring attitude that he will hv to display in front of her to woo her I guess ... it was quite a mean thing to do but he is a man on a mission right now
The Arzoo dialogue to Sahir was very good when she told him she couldn't trust and give her life to someone who was changeable by the minute. But more than that dialogue (which we were expecting anyway after seeing Friday precap), the return dialogue of Sahir at the dining table that he will never ever give her that confusion about himself again and he will only help her etc etc ... that was very nice (assuming of course, that he means what he says at least 50% genuinely even if 50% is bahana to prevent Zaki marrying her!)

I guess mayb he really meant it .. sometimes I feel he mayb lieing to Zaki and not Aarzoo just to give the impression to Zaki that look Aarzoo is a gold digger so that he can marry Sam but otherwise his feelings or promises to Aarzoo mayb genuine .. though in futue if Zaki spills the beans to Aarzoo which he will , then I do see Sahir getting trapped in his own game 🤔

I don't know if I am having some peculiar gooseflesh or what but every time we have a scene with Harshad Chopra giving those long silences before talking, I get major fida on him!

yess those looks r killer na 😳😳
This actor is just made for strong silent roles!😳 Maybe in comparison with him only I find Zaki so intolerable because he is such a talkative piece of nonsense with no manly qualities whatsoever! Even his face looks feminine to me! Am I a gone case?😲

I guess u r just too smitten with Harshad to feel that way mayb 😉😆😳


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Posted: 10 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: madhu31

the only confusion i have is that how come everyone is saying he is faking love when he actually loves her. i know this is a really dumb question 😛 i'm serious though



he actually loves her but unless he admits the same and keeps saying he is faking it , we cant really trust him na .. like Aarzoo said there r so many Sahirs hidden inside this one Sahir , how will she know which is the real one and what will b his next move 😕😕

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