Sushpective: The real plot!

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Hi Guys...
Today's episode was all over the place...it was difficult to figure out what morality standards are the CVs trying to push...

Is it moral to threaten to kill some one, with a knife on his neck...and even cut it a bit to prove your point?
Is it moral to turn a witness to falsely testify to save yourself?
Is it moral to marry a girl...who is blackmailing you making up stuff about you raping her?
Is it moral to accuse a girl and humiliate her...because she didn't dignify your ridiculous accusations about her being characterless by answering?



But wait a minute...it is not about morality ...is it? It is about a business deal, about the risk of going under completely because of a legal case...where the accusations are actually not even false...

So I think we are better off not discussing anything on the grounds of morality...the real plot...as in the movie Sabrina is


The elder brother...is very business minded
The younger one is a Casanova ...
There is an important business partner who is very interested in seeing the younger one married to his daughter because the daughter and he have been romantically involved ...and the daughter is very interested...
The elder brother is very interested in making sure that the business deal goes through a lot is at stake...
The younger one, flips for a new girl from a poor background...refuses to marry the business partners daughter...
The elder brother is in a bind...his business deal can not go through with this wrinkle...
So, he decides to take the root cause of the problem...out...by planning to direct her affection towards him...
Yes you heard me right...he "pretends" to be in love with the girl...so that she will move out of the younger brother's life...
His theory? The girl will sell out...will fall for him...! Even tells the younger brother so...in advance...


The only problem is he...falls in love with the girl in the process...
So, our CVs...take the plot from Sabrina...Indianize it...throw all kinds of tangents...like pregnancy, and factory burning, murder threats, ever murder...but the basic plot remains the same...,

There is no point analyzing the tangents ...because there is not much consistency of thought in that conception...

Lets just wait for the real plot to unfold...at least for this part of the story...


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB3zQenGNDo&sns=em[/YOUTUBE]

Of course, in Sahirs case...he is not all business, but does have the Shayar side to him...he wasn't going to play...until Rehman pushed him into the ring...leaving him no choice, and that he already had fallen for Arzoo...is not an unwelcome detail...but as they go into this new dynamic...I sense a major shift...in what Sahir has been and what he is going to be...



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I don't get why everything became about Arzoo! Hello ...am I missing something?
Rehman was talking about Samaira, and Zaki and the deeds they may or may not have done together...and the entire clan in liking Anam, KA, and now Samaira too makes it an Arzoo issue...I mean seriously people...what IS the matter with you? This discussion wasn't about Aarzoo it was about Samiara ...and Zaki...🤔



What I found the most funny in the entire exchange was Kurti Aaapa's dialogue about Z aki impregnating two women...😆. Now that was really FUNNY!

Any way...I am happy that the pregnancy plot didn't drag out...that's the only ray of light I saw in this whole thing...I wish they had focused more on Saahirs face when the truth was coming out...now that was a reaction I enjoyed watching...!!,😃


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About Samaira...and Zaki...

Actually I did feel sorry for Rehman when Samaira was telling her sob story to him...He believed her...and if Zaki has really done what she is accusing him off...any father would be offended and do what he possibly can to make sure the wedding happens...Rehman's ways are not justified...but then again the whole factory thing is not justified yet...


About Zaki, even though he can not be forced into a marriage with false accusations...the real issue is that he slept with the girl...if not in Paris in other places and we don't know what promises he made to her...I think the entire thing begs him to take responsibility and be more respectful in putting his point forth...


Nevertheless...in NO CASE it is justified to FALSELY accused someone of rape...if they have not committed one...
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Hi Sush ,

Thanks for opening a post ...Sorry posted before you were done

Emotions will be running high on both sides of the aisle ...Best wait till the drama unfolds ... No point getting BP up , and worrying about TRP's ...enjoy what you can rest let it go is my mantra after all it's REEL .








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Edited by ultimaterudra - 10 years ago
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Hi Sush, great post! Hi Shweta great collage as usual!

So Saahir is definitely a brighter tool from the box, than we think. Just when we think SAC had given up last week that he had no option left but destroy his brother and Arzoo's life. This man was not ready to call it quits. He is not a quitter he is a fighter. He found alternative B, he found a witness that would also taint Rehmaan name in court. So they both are ready to play a filthy game but Rehmaan (for now) has dirtier methods. Rehmaan will go to the point of murder? (Well as per spoiler Saahir too is willing to go to the extent of deceit the same thing he hates Zeenat for. The same thing he proudly told Sarfaraz he was against before he fired him. All for this egotistic business deal.)

Now here is my problem with the Chaudhary kaandaan and there double standards once again. A middle class girl gets accused of pre-marital pregnancy she is loose character, immoral and an insult to women kind. But if a rich girl with the support of a male father got impregnated before marriage she is a poor girl, a bechari. I was shocked watching today's episode. Again people just accused Arzoo of doing all this for money and everyone bought it? At least Alvira could have opened up her mouth there? It shows all you need is money and a male figure to have your back and you can have anything done? Even falsely accuse someone else of your pregnancy. Samaira clearly told Zaki she does not care who the father is, the child was only going to call Zaki ABU. So there is still a very good chance the child might not be Zaki's. But in front of others and her father's she told them Zaki had mixed something in her drink and taken advantage of her almost made it look like date rape? Again a great deception she got away with. CVs did a great job showing how two girls both in the same scenario are treated differently in a male money oriented society.

Secondly, where does the assumption that Arzoo was doing all this for money come from? Just because someone accused her for it? Again what backing of evidence do people have to claim this? There can be fifty different reason why she claimed she was pregnant? Has Arzoo ever even given the vibe that she values money? Living in that house it took Zaki for her to even get a makeover? She was very happy with her tent? HECK. She was even willing to fulfill the job of a servant for Alvira boy that is materialistic. And she definitely was trying pursue Sahir right from the beginning. She made fun of him, threw phones at him, answered back to him, and wrote him a love filled resignation letter. Furthermore Zaki's testimony that he himself had gone to Arzoo requesting help and she had helped him out on this valued nothing? They will take Rehman and Samaira zubaan over Zaki's. Especially Saahir knowing perfectly what Rehmaan is capable of (burning factories, murdering witnesses) Yet he trusts him for Samaira the bechari pregnant girl over Arzoo who till yesterday was the dhokebaaz pregnant girl.

Thirdly, if the spoilers are true I guess in a way that is a good thing because it might mark the end of Humsafars for me. I have watched bits and pieces and heard lots about other 4 lions heroes. Well all I can say that whatever they have been man handlers, abusers, aggressive, psychotic they have all been to your face. No one claimed to be against liars and cheaters the way Saahir does when he speaks about Zeenat. The way he told Arzoo and Sarfaraz with his head held up high and go and do something completely contrary.

P.S. If the CVs are under the impression that Saahir deceiving Arzoo is going to bring the TRPs up than think again. This has been done before in the past in a Soureb Tiwari show. Where a man with a dark past deceits the female lead into believing he has feelings for her and that marked the end of the show. A show getting 3+, 4+ trps consistently for months was a consistent downfall after that. So think again! People just couldn't connect with the couple.

Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Sahir threatening Rehman"...and Rehman threatening Saahir...both things were beyond my taste...






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Hey Sush,
Good post - I agree with a lot of what Red violet wrote . . if this becomes a set up on Sahir's part by "confessing" his feelings and he tries to play her I'm done with the show. I love HC but there's only so much crap I can see the FL be put through . . . I'm still holding out hope I'm wrong but I'm leery because I've seen this story before. . . .

Great collages Shweta - as always 😊
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Originally posted by: habs

Hey Sush,

Good post - I agree with a lot of what Red violet wrote . . if this becomes a set up on Sahir's part by "confessing" his feelings and he tries to play her I'm done with the show. I love HC but there's only so much crap I can see the FL be put through . . . I'm still holding out hope I'm wrong but I'm leery because I've seen this story before. . . .

Great collages Shweta - as always 😊


Indra...the actual plot in that entire "pretend" game is that Linus "really" falls for "Sabrina"...so I won't give up on it...yet! Lets see what they do...
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


Indra...the actual plot in that entire "pretend" game is that Linus "really" falls for "Sabrina"...so I won't give up on it...yet! Lets see what they do...


Yes,that's true but this is 4 Lions and a desi soap. . . . but I withhold judgement until I see the entire story play out. Was not impressed with any of the characters today except Arzoo. . .- yes, Shweta even Sahir. . . although his slapping Zaki was entertaining.
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Originally posted by: redviolet

Hi Sush, great post! Hi Shweta great collage as usual!

So Saahir is definitely a brighter tool from the box, than we think. Just when we think SAC had given up last week that he had no option left but destroy his brother and Arzoo's life. This man was not ready to call it quits. He is not a quitter he is a fighter. He found alternative B, he found a witness that would also taint Rehmaan name in court. So they both are ready to play a filthy game but Rehmaan (for now) has dirtier methods. Rehmaan will go to the point of murder? (Well as per spoiler Saahir too is willing to go to the extent of deceit the same thing he hates Zeenat for. The same thing he proudly told Sarfaraz he was against before he fired him. All for this egotistic business deal.)

Now here is my problem with the Chaudhary kaandaan and there double standards once again. A middle class girl gets accused of pre-marital pregnancy she is loose chartered, immoral and an insult to women kind. But if a rich girl with the support of a male father got impregnated before marriage she is a poor girl a bechari. I was shocked watching today's episode. Again people just accused Arzoo of doing all this for money and everyone bought it? At least Alvira could have opened up her mouth there? It shows all you need is money and a male figure to have your back and you can have anything done? Even falsely accuse someone else of your pregnancy. Samaira clearly told Zaki she does not care who the father is, the child was only going to call Zaki ABU. So there is still a very good chance the child might not be Zaki's. But in front of others and her father's she told them Zaki had mixed something in her drink and taken advantage of her almost made it look like date rape? Again a great deception she got away with. CVs did a great job showing how girls both in the same scenario are treated in a male money oriented society.

Secondly, where does the assumption that Arzoo was doing all this for money come from? Just because someone accused her for it? Again what backing of evidence do people have to claim this? There can be fifty different reason why she claimed she was pregnant? Has Arzoo ever even given the vibe that she values money? Living in that house it took Zaki for her to even get a makeover? She was very happy with her tent? HECK. She was even willing to fulfill the job of a servant for Alvira boy that is materialistic. And she definetly was trying pursue Sahir right from the begging. She made fun of him, through phones at him, answered back to him, and wrote him a love filled resignation letter. Furthermore Zaki's testimony that he himself had gone to Arzoo requesting help and she had helped him out on this valued nothing? They will take Rehman and Samaira zubaan over Zaki's. Especially Saahir knowing perfectly what Rehmaan is capable of (burning factories, murdering witnesses) Yet he trusts him for Samaira the bechari pregnant girl over Arzoo who till yesterday was the dhokebaaz pregnant girl.

Thirdly, if the spoilers are true I guess in a way that is a good thing because it might mark the end of Humsafars for me. I have watched bits and pieces and heard lots about other 4 lions heroes. Well all I can say that whatever they have been man handlers, abusers, aggressive, psychotic they have all been to your face. No one claimed to be against liars and cheaters the way Saahir does when he speaks about Zeenat. The way he told Arzoo and Sarfaraz with his head held up high and go and do something completely contrary.

P.S. If the CVs are under the impression that Saahir deceiving Arzoo is going to bring the TRPs up than think again. This has been done before in the past in a Soureb Tiwari show. Where a man with a dark past deceits the female lead into believing he has feelings for her and that marked the end of the show. A show getting 3+, 4+ trps consistently for months was a consistent downfall after that. So think again! People just couldn't connect with the couple.


Hi Red...Nice post!

Agree with your point about the double standards...however, I think that Samiara is making it up...and if she is...accusing some one of date rape when they haven't committed one...is very serious and should be deplored...

Lets wait for tomorrow before judging the precap...between today and that...there is a big leap...

Sahir pretending to be in love would have made more sense if he wasn't already...so I am not sure what exactly do the CVs want to accomplish with this line...unless there is a marriage on the cards...and not just "pretense" for the heck of it...

I think we need to be a little patient...


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