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Dhanya

@samrudhi.r

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Angels_Sweetz
Adding my confusion here aft yestday's Huseb scene
What does Indira exactly thinks /knows abt herself & others? She deffo knows tht she has Memory loss but does she know tht she has a Different identity & Husna is just given by Kabir? Does she know tht she is from India but not Pak? ( i think she doesn't know tht Husna is just the Identity given by kabir & not her Original. She Might be thinking tht she is Husna before ML also and also i dont think she knows tht she is Actually from India. She might be thinking she is Pakistani citizen. Hence she isn't struggling to know her Past life) anyways If she is Accepting the identity given by Kabir then what abt giving shelter & giving new Life when she had No one ka dialogue coz of which she consider him as Khuda? Does she think tht Kabir gave shelter & family knowing tht she is alone &doesn't know anything abt herself? Or was she told tht kabir loved & married her who was alone and had nobody & later blast & ML. In these 2 circumstances also what did Kabir say abt Noor? How is Husna calling her as Aapa? I dont think Our Indira would Accept herself as a 2nd wife to someone & consider Husbands 1st wife as Sister to live in the same house! All these things are Soo Confusing! As to what Exactly was told to Indira & what does she know, Believe & Accept abt herself & others whom she thinks to be Related!

Nice pondering. Very valid questions. But i think our CV's wouldnt have thought about all this deeply. it could be a blooper.

She believes that Kabir is her husband, and she doesnt have any memory of marriage. This points that she believes Kabir at least knew her from before memory loss days, and so she believes that she knew kabir too before memory loss.

This again points that if she has ever been curious about her past, kabir must have told her something to keep up with his lie of marriage. He could have told her that she was an orphan. This would be easier as he doesnt have to make up any stories about her family. If she was told to be an orphan, then she can think of him as god to have accepted her despite her bleak background and giving her any semblance of a family than she could dream of. In such a scenario she might also not be curious about her own family/past life. She would be happy with what she has. That would also explain her meekness. There is no question of her doubting her being a Pakistani also. Does it matter that u are an Indian if u are an orphan? She wouldn't care.

I think i have tried to explain some of ur questions.

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Nikhila

@Angels_Sweetz

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Dhanya- u have Just Repeated & Expanded what i have already written. Even i have told the same, tht Kabir might have told tht she is Husna (orphan/ alone) and he Married her & later ML. She might have made to believe tht she is Originally Husna itself & probably was all alone before. Hence she doesn't doubt or Struggle abt her Past life. And also it does Matter if she is Indian or Pakistani. It would atleast trigger her thinking abt herself, her life, her family or atleast how she landed in Pak.

What u have written above, i have mentioned in my earlier comment too Abt being a Possibility coz of which she isn't thinking hard abt her Past. BUT my Main Question is if she Accepted & Believes herself to be Husna - Kabir's wife, married before ML who gave her Shelter & new life...then what was told to her abt Noor? Does she consider her as Aapa coz she is her husbands 1st wife & was staying in the Same house! I dont think Indira would accept & live like tht being a 2nd wife to someone who is living with his 1st wife in the same house (whatever relation they might be having) Indira wouldn't live like tht.

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designersaini

@designersaini

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Angels_Sweetz
Dhanya- u have Just Repeated & Expanded what i have already written. Even i have told the same, tht Kabir might have told tht she is Husna (orphan/ alone) and he Married her & later ML. She might have made to believe tht she is Originally Husna itself & probably was all alone before. Hence she doesn't doubt or Struggle abt her Past life. And also it does Matter if she is Indian or Pakistani. It would atleast trigger her thinking abt herself, her life, her family or atleast how she landed in Pak.

What u have written above, i have mentioned in my earlier comment too Abt being a Possibility coz of which she isn't thinking hard abt her Past. BUT my Main Question is if she Accepted & Believes herself to be Husna - Kabir's wife, married before ML who gave her Shelter & new life...then what was told to her abt Noor? Does she consider her as Aapa coz she is her husbands 1st wife & was staying in the Same house! I dont think Indira would accept & live like tht being a 2nd wife to someone who is living with his 1st wife in the same house (whatever relation they might be having) Indira wouldn't live like tht.

hey nikhila.

jahan tak i hav observed i dont think husna knows dat noor is kabir's wife bcoz husna was a maid n caretaker 1st f noor den babli.so agar wo kabir ki wife hai(as told 2 her by kabir) den y would she b living as a maid or caretaker in dat house balki kabir was 9t at all treated or was d servent in dat house.n also noor doesnt 9 dat husna is kabir's wife bcoz fr her she was jst a maid n a caretaker n nothing else.

as per husna dont 9 wat kind f story kabir has told her coz if we look at zara she was also told dat she is married to malik but she was always worried about her past never moved on in her life wid malik instead she asked him 2 give her some time.

n dekha jaye to zara ko bhi shelter,ek meher jaisi aapa mili thi but here husna/indira is not even interested in 9ing her past.

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Dhanya

@samrudhi.r

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Angels_Sweetz
Dhanya- u have Just Repeated & Expanded what i have already written. Even i have told the same, tht Kabir might have told tht she is Husna (orphan/ alone) and he Married her & later ML. She might have made to believe tht she is Originally Husna itself & probably was all alone before. Hence she doesn't doubt or Struggle abt her Past life. And also it does Matter if she is Indian or Pakistani. It would atleast trigger her thinking abt herself, her life, her family or atleast how she landed in Pak.

What u have written above, i have mentioned in my earlier comment too Abt being a Possibility coz of which she isn't thinking hard abt her Past. BUT my Main Question is if she Accepted & Believes herself to be Husna - Kabir's wife, married before ML who gave her Shelter & new life...then what was told to her abt Noor? Does she consider her as Aapa coz she is her husbands 1st wife & was staying in the Same house! I dont think Indira would accept & live like tht being a 2nd wife to someone who is living with his 1st wife in the same house (whatever relation they might be having) Indira wouldn't live like tht.

Sorry, i didnt intend to repeat, but i guess i didnt catch the word alone as synonymous to orphan. But now as i read ur post, i dont know how i missed. 😳

@blue: i guess that story has to be revealed yet.

@red: Indira wouldnt, but Husna would. Indira became Indira/Hitler due to circumstances. It was not a choice. Husna has no circumstantial pressures to turn Hitlerish. She would be in a state of gratitude for Saheb, and might be feeling lucky. So she might accept being second wife. In her situation wouldnt it be better than no family/no life and esp in a country where women who are not married at her age would look like any ones property (not that our country is any better esp in rural areas).

Edited by dhanya.r - 12 years ago

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adinats07

@adinats07

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

@blue: i guess that story has to be revealed yet.

dhanya - i feel Indira character, hitler or not she will not marry a person whose 1st wife is alive and staying with them... if kabir has informed her that she is his begum...even if memory loss she would have questioned herself that y she married him when he already had a wife bad or good, she will try to find what has happened in her past... this is what i am not liking abt husna... i never see indira characteristics in Husna, only when she comes in front of rishi she shows some characteristics or else there is nothing of indira qualities. even if she had no family she would have fought on her own or even take kabir help to survive... but regarding marriage she will question herself how can she marry kabir ?

but zara was replica of indira.. but alas they changed the whole plot later.. they even changed the way zara was standing like hitler.. but now thats a diferent story alltogether😃

Edited by adinats07 - 12 years ago

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Nikhila

@Angels_Sweetz

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: designersaini
hey nikhila.
jahan tak i hav observed i dont think husna knows dat noor is kabir's wife bcoz husna was a maid n caretaker 1st f noor den babli.so agar wo kabir ki wife hai(as told 2 her by kabir) den y would she b living as a maid or caretaker in dat house balki kabir was 9t at all treated or was d servent in dat house.n also noor doesnt 9 dat husna is kabir's wife bcoz fr her she was jst a maid n a caretaker n nothing else.
as per husna dont 9 wat kind f story kabir has told her coz if we look at zara she was also told dat she is married to malik but she was always worried about her past never moved on in her life wid malik instead she asked him 2 give her some time.
n dekha jaye to zara ko bhi shelter,ek meher jaisi aapa mili thi but here husna/indira is not even interested in 9ing her past.

tht's Exactly what am asking!
For Noor it might have been told tht Husna is being Appointed as a Caretaker. (we had also seen how Noor got Angry when Kabir was singing song for Husna). BUT What was told to Husna by Kabir? To live in tht House as What? If Caretaker or Maid then living like tht she would definately know whats Kabir & Noor's relation. And here she is referring Noor as Aapa and Not maimsaab or terms like tht. Ok at someplaces Maids do call like tht too. Anyways Still as Caretaker or as 2nd wife taking care of Husbands 1st wife & daughter? Either way Both Husna & Noor would come to know abt these Relations living at a Single place nah.

And abt not thinking abt her Past. There at Zara times to make us feel & belive tht she might be our Indira they showed us tht Zara is not able to connect with her Identity and was striving to know abt herself. But here to increase the Drama and to drastic separation they are Showing Indira accepting the Identity given to her as Husna. May be whenever she Stressed herself abt her Past she used to Feel giddy coz of which she might have been prevented from thinking hahaha. Another -This is just to show how much harder its for Inshi union. Lol. Indira has Completely taken up Husna's Identity, so the Path to Get her back as Indira is more Longer & Difficult :P as she has No doubts abt herself being someone else then Husna.

Edited by Angels_Sweetz - 12 years ago

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Nikhila

@Angels_Sweetz

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: dhanya.r

Sorry, i didnt intend to repeat, but i guess i didnt catch the word alone as synonymous to orphan. But now as i read ur post, i dont know how i missed.😳

@blue: i guess that story has to be revealed yet.

@red: Indira wouldnt, but Husna would. Indira became Indira/Hitler due to circumstances. It was not a choice. Husna has no circumstantial pressures to turn Hitlerish. She would be in a state of gratitude for Saheb, and might be feeling lucky. So she might accept being second wife. In her situation wouldnt it be better than no family/no life and esp in a country where women who are not married at her age would look like any ones property (not that our country is any better esp in rural areas).

Dhanya- Yes Husna is Indira minus Hitlergiri. But what am asking is Nothing to do with Hitlergiri- which is being Strict, kadoos, rude. Here its the Matter of what 1 believes or follows or considers Right, morals, values, principles etc. A Persons Thinking or what he/she consider or Follows doesn't change with Memory loss. Though with Memory loss i dont think Indira would Marry a Person who is already married & lives with his wife. i dont think she would live as 2nd wife in the same house. What conditions of her & the place ur mentioning can be Considered. But According to me Indira wouldn't live like tht. She would have Prefered to Live & Struggle alone then live as 2nd wife. After the blast Kabir saying Husna as Begum, getting her home When she realises tht she is 2nd wife to Kabir she would deffo think abt how all this happened and would feel Strange as to why and how did she get married to a Man who was already married & living with his wife (anyways Cv's can anyhow disappoint us with Silly writing which would go completely against the Character sketch they showed earlier)

Edited by Angels_Sweetz - 12 years ago

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AllThingsNice

@AllThingsNice

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#28

@all: This is in the context of what Husna knows (as opposed to what she believes) about her relationship with Kabir and who Noor is in the whole scheme of things. Looking at the way this track is shaping up, I am inclined to agree with Walden that we might never know.

Now the bar dancer has entered SN and if she is to reunite Inshi, then Husna will start having flashbacks of times spent with Rishi. Maybe that is how the track will end.

Or maybe not if they choose to bring Noor and her father into SN. Or at least into the scheme of things (even if they remain in Pakistan). Through them, we can get to know who has lied to whom and what this whole confusing relationship between the three is. We already know that they are against this relationship. Noor tried to prevent Kabir from getting a visa to India and when he tried to sneak away from Pakistan, Noor's father tried to kill him and even Babli. Its about time they traced his whereabouts.

I hope the CVs are not so caught up with the bar dancer track that they don't even remember that these two exist. Wait and watch, I suppose. The HD track record is that of many questions and very few answers.

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Nikhila

@Angels_Sweetz

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#29

So True Kanan!
Somethings we never get to know in HD. Many things are left incomplete & forgotten. Many Questions are raised in Viewers mind, but we get only few answers amg them, others are Just gone Unanswered & forgotten tht it never comes again as was the case in Many tracks Sply Zara's!

Hmm...ya Lets Wait & Watch what & how do they show the story.

Edited by Angels_Sweetz - 12 years ago

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TBDRESS

@TBDRESS

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: dhanya.r

Sorry, i didnt intend to repeat, but i guess i didnt catch the word alone as synonymous to orphan. But now as i read ur post, i dont know how i missed. 😳

@blue: i guess that story has to be revealed yet.

@red: Indira wouldnt, but Husna would. Indira became Indira/Hitler due to circumstances. It was not a choice. Husna has no circumstantial pressures to turn Hitlerish. She would be in a state of gratitude for Saheb, and might be feeling lucky. So she might accept being second wife. In her situation wouldnt it be better than no family/no life and esp in a country where women who are not married at her age would look like any ones property (not that our country is any better esp in rural areas).

Dhanya @bold...this is probably a moot point when talking about HD because they make up things as they go but you raise an interesting point. How much of our personality is genetics and how much is our environment- the age old nature vs. nurture.

But I think some of it atleast has to be genetic- otherwise why would Munna and Indira become such different people even though they had been exposed to such similar circumstances? I know we are led to believe that Indira turned into HItler due to her circumstances but I think a lot of her Hitler traits are intrinsic to her and they were just solidified due to the circumstances she faced.

Regarding her decision to accept being a 2nd wife is interesting. Our moral code is mostly shaped by the society we live in...If she was made to believe that 2nd marriages are a accepted norm of her culture, then she may not have had a problem with it. The only thing that bothers me is that she must have known that Noor was not happy with this 2nd marriage of her husband. And this is where I think people have a problem. Why would she continue to sustain this relationship when she knew that it was causing distress to Kabir's 1st wife? To not become the cause for another's distress/mistreatment is something that was the hallmark of her personality- wasn't it?

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