Piousness Untouched.. Time for Rickey Deewan EDIT2

Paulomi Debnath

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Posted: 12 years ago

#291

Originally posted by: aadk

Paulomi,soo many questions for me!!!!!😆
@bold The truth here is yet to come out..So right now its all confusion everywr!!

As i have said before,I really dont find any sense in going on with logic in this serial..More than being rational and logical,I find more sense in getting connected to the characters emotionally,bcs that is when I can relate to them better!!!
When we ourselves tend to behave differently under different circumstances,then why not these chracters?? When we compare any two situations,the basic parameters must atleast be the same.Comparing the times of Inshi to that of Zashi is absurd according to me.The 8 years in between have got their own share in the way they affect a person emotionally..
I would only end up saying again that for me all the three characters are doing perfectly well and I dun find anyone at fault at all!!!😊

questions are not for u paagal its general

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Paulomi Debnath

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Posted: 12 years ago

#292

Originally posted by: Walden

@ bold. Paulomi, this is what we all have been complaining about- Rishi needs to start taking decisions for himself rather than being persuaded by every woman/child-woman that walks into his life. I don't want him to slap anyone (I didn't like when he slapped Indira) but yes I want him to stand up for what he believes. But this will never happen. It didn't happen when Indira was arond either- he pretty much agreed to everything Indira used to demand of him. Rishi's character has been made into a puppet in the hands of all the women in his life for the last 8 months of this show. This is Illa Bedi's contorted idea of women empowerment.

I completely agree with you about Indu. Yes I want Rishi to find happiness in his life but I want him to always make Indu his first priority. That's why I am completely opposed to the Zashi marriage- it was premature. But this is the only way the writers know to move the story forward. If there was no zashi marriage, there would be no zara-indira-rishi dilemna.

you are right that marriage was the biggest blunder.

you know what i always opposed to indira's decision for getting rishi remarried to shweta,i hated that decision but at the same time when i think it in the other way,that by doing that she is not getting anything personally else she is loosing everything,but here what zaara is doing is far more kiddish than shweta's meri beti-mera pati.here no one is getting anything except herself because according to me snatching away a mother from a child's life is the biggest crime which is even worse than murder

now if she turns another hitler for this reason and stand against her father and zaara,at that time can we be able to point her wrong.I think no.here everyone is playing with indu's emotions i'll say,her childhood is being destroyed in here and she'll be the only sufferer.

you know what sometimes i think it would have been much better if shweta comes and takes away indira and indu,at least indu didn't have to see all these kinds of nonsenses and indira too didn't have to suffer as a puppet.(its just a thought no offense)but here also she committed a crime by declaring indira dead without proper testing

i pray that indira please get well soon and take care of your daughter because u r the only one who can do it as she badly needs a healthy environment to grow up(if lw is indira)

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TBDRESS

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Posted: 12 years ago

#293

you are right that marriage was the biggest blunder.

you know what i always opposed to indira's decision for getting rishi remarried to shweta,i hated that decision but at the same time when i think it in the other way,that by doing that she is not getting anything personally else she is loosing everything,but here what zaara is doing is far more kiddish than shweta's meri beti-mera pati.here no one is getting anything except herself because according to me snatching away a mother from a child's life is the biggest crime which is even worse than murder

now if she turns another hitler for this reason and stand against her father and zaara,at that time can we be able to point her wrong.I think no.here everyone is playing with indu's emotions i'll say,her childhood is being destroyed in here and she'll be the only sufferer.

you know what sometimes i think it would have been much better if shweta comes and takes away indira and indu,at least indu didn't have to see all these kinds of nonsenses and indira too didn't have to suffer as a puppet.(its just a thought no offense)

Paulomi, I don't thnk we should compare Indira and Zara's characters and their behaviors. They are both in very different circumstances. Indira was going to die anyway so obviously she didn't have anything to gain from the situation (though I am vehemently opposed to her decision to blackmail Rishi, I don't think she had malicious intentions). If Zara thought that she was also going to die in 30 days, I'm sure she would have no problem with LW. But that is not the situation she is faced with. I'm actually really happy with the way they are potraying her- it is realistic and relatable (though neither her and Rishi's decisions are absoultely "right").

Regarding Indu and her mother, I definitely think that Rishi and Zara need to talk to her before making any decision, but I'm not sure if LW can be much of a mother to Indu at this point. But you are right, they need to talk to her.

@bold- are you kidding me- the woman who prematurely declared Indira dead when she was still alive- the woman who hid Indira's identity from Indu all these years- you want her to come back? I think Indu is better offwithout a mother than having Shweta in her life! Anyway, Shweta would only come back for Indu and Indira if Rishi was included in the package 🤣

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Paulomi Debnath

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Posted: 12 years ago

#294

Originally posted by: Walden

you are right that marriage was the biggest blunder.

you know what i always opposed to indira's decision for getting rishi remarried to shweta,i hated that decision but at the same time when i think it in the other way,that by doing that she is not getting anything personally else she is loosing everything,but here what zaara is doing is far more kiddish than shweta's meri beti-mera pati.here no one is getting anything except herself because according to me snatching away a mother from a child's life is the biggest crime which is even worse than murder

now if she turns another hitler for this reason and stand against her father and zaara,at that time can we be able to point her wrong.I think no.here everyone is playing with indu's emotions i'll say,her childhood is being destroyed in here and she'll be the only sufferer.

you know what sometimes i think it would have been much better if shweta comes and takes away indira and indu,at least indu didn't have to see all these kinds of nonsenses and indira too didn't have to suffer as a puppet.(its just a thought no offense)

Paulomi, I don't thnk we should compare Indira and Zara's characters and their behaviors. They are both in very different circumstances. Indira was going to die anyway so obviously she didn't have anything to gain from the situation (though I am vehemently opposed to her decision to blackmail Rishi, I don't think she had malicious intentions). If Zara thought that she was also going to die in 30 days, I'm sure she would have no problem with LW. But that is not the situation she is faced with. I'm actually really happy with the way they are potraying her- it is realistic and relatable (though neither her and Rishi's decisions are absoultely "right").

Regarding Indu and her mother, I definitely think that Rishi and Zara need to talk to her before making any decision, but I'm not sure if LW can be much of a mother to Indu at this point. But you are right, they need to talk to her.

@bold- are you kidding me- the woman who prematurely declared Indira dead when she was still alive- the woman who hid Indira's identity from Indu all these years- you want her to come back? I think Indu is better offwithout a mother than having Shweta in her life! Anyway, Shweta would only come back for Indu and Indira if Rishi was included in the package 🤣

@ buddhu i dont want her to come back what i said that if she had not committed that crime of declaring indira dead without testing and if she had not hid the fact of indira,then we could have trusted her with indu but now its not possible thats what iam saying.

i have said if lw is indira,iam not saying about that mad woman,iam particular about indira here because i think she is much more matured than everyone of course she became the son of the house at a very tender age and we always criticized her for thinking only about family and not properly about rishi.But you know what girls have a very typical nature that she may get immense love from her husband and insult from her family(as in case of indira) whatever may be the situation but still we girls can never stop thinking about our family.this is a very common phenomena.even if we leave our family after marriage but still we cant stop thinking.

@blue here iam not comparing them,here iam not saying about the situation iam saying about the decision which indira took,we criticized her for that but it was for rishi's benefit only that is my point

zaara and rishi could have handled the matter of indira much more maturedly,comeon yaar at one point u r saying that indira the daughter of the family is back and at the next moment u r saying to throw her in the asylum,i mean jiske ghar mein rehte ho usike saath itna ganda behaviour.i know the house belongs to rishi now and for that you are now the maalkin but its indira's house which she gave to rishi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#295

Originally posted by: -Paulomi-

you are right that marriage was the biggest blunder.

you know what i always opposed to indira's decision for getting rishi remarried to shweta,i hated that decision but at the same time when i think it in the other way,that by doing that she is not getting anything personally else she is loosing everything,but here what zaara is doing is far more kiddish than shweta's meri beti-mera pati.here no one is getting anything except herself because according to me snatching away a mother from a child's life is the biggest crime which is even worse than murder

now if she turns another hitler for this reason and stand against her father and zaara,at that time can we be able to point her wrong.I think no.here everyone is playing with indu's emotions i'll say,her childhood is being destroyed in here and she'll be the only sufferer.

you know what sometimes i think it would have been much better if shweta comes and takes away indira and indu,at least indu didn't have to see all these kinds of nonsenses and indira too didn't have to suffer as a puppet.(its just a thought no offense)

Paulomi, I don't thnk we should compare Indira and Zara's characters and their behaviors. They are both in very different circumstances. Indira was going to die anyway so obviously she didn't have anything to gain from the situation (though I am vehemently opposed to her decision to blackmail Rishi, I don't think she had malicious intentions). If Zara thought that she was also going to die in 30 days, I'm sure she would have no problem with LW. But that is not the situation she is faced with. I'm actually really happy with the way they are potraying her- it is realistic and relatable (though neither her and Rishi's decisions are absoultely "right").

Regarding Indu and her mother, I definitely think that Rishi and Zara need to talk to her before making any decision, but I'm not sure if LW can be much of a mother to Indu at this point. But you are right, they need to talk to her.

@bold- are you kidding me- the woman who prematurely declared Indira dead when she was still alive- the woman who hid Indira's identity from Indu all these years- you want her to come back? I think Indu is better offwithout a mother than having Shweta in her life! Anyway, Shweta would only come back for Indu and Indira if Rishi was included in the package 🤣

@ buddhu i dont want her to come back what i said that if she had not committed that crime of declaring indira dead without testing and if she had not hid the fact of indira,then we could have trusted her with indu but now its not possible thats what iam saying.

i have said if lw is indira,iam not saying about that mad woman,iam particular about indira here because i think she is much more matured than everyone of course she became the son of the house at a very tender age and we always criticized her for thinking only about family and not properly about rishi.But you know what girls have a very typical nature that she may get immense love from her husband and insult from her family(as in case of indira) whatever may be the situation but still we girls can never stop thinking about our family.this is a very common phenomena.even if we leave our family after marriage but still we cant stop thinking.

@blue here iam not comparing them,here iam not saying about the situation iam saying about the decision which indira took,we criticized her for that but it was for rishi's benefit only that is my point

zaara and rishi could have handled the matter of indira much more maturedly,comeon yaar at one point u r saying that indira the daughter of the family is back and at the next moment u r saying to throw her in the asylum,i mean jiske ghar mein rehte ho usike saath itna ganda behaviour.i know the house belongs to rishi now and for that you are now the maalkin but its indira's house which she gave to rishi

Paulomi, now you are going to get me started on my analysis of Indira. To me she is a very complex character. She was responsible but mature- I don't think so. Seeking happiness for yourself is NOT a sign of immaturity- yes there are right ways to go about it and wrong ways to go about it (maybe what Zara and Rishi are doing right now is the wrong way to purse happiness?- thats a topic for another day!). Sacrificing right and left for your family is also NOT a sign of maturity (but I don't think Indira's sacrificing was selfless either- read below)

Regarding Indira thinking about her family. Yes part of it was love and that is understandable (most girls like you said have this for their families even after marriage). But for Indira, her family was her identity- her only identity and this is the reason she continued to care for them despite their horrible ingratitude. For her to leave her family, she would have to face the fact that she had no identity outside of them and Indira's fears and insecurities always prevented her from doing this. So in a way, Indira found security and a identity in taking care of the family and this is why she continued to do it. It had little to do with love. You can argue if she did really truly love them, how come she remembers none of them and only recalls Rishi?

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Paulomi Debnath

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Posted: 12 years ago

#296

Originally posted by: Walden

Paulomi, I don't thnk we should compare Indira and Zara's characters and their behaviors. They are both in very different circumstances. Indira was going to die anyway so obviously she didn't have anything to gain from the situation (though I am vehemently opposed to her decision to blackmail Rishi, I don't think she had malicious intentions). If Zara thought that she was also going to die in 30 days, I'm sure she would have no problem with LW. But that is not the situation she is faced with. I'm actually really happy with the way they are potraying her- it is realistic and relatable (though neither her and Rishi's decisions are absoultely "right").

Regarding Indu and her mother, I definitely think that Rishi and Zara need to talk to her before making any decision, but I'm not sure if LW can be much of a mother to Indu at this point. But you are right, they need to talk to her.

@bold- are you kidding me- the woman who prematurely declared Indira dead when she was still alive- the woman who hid Indira's identity from Indu all these years- you want her to come back? I think Indu is better offwithout a mother than having Shweta in her life! Anyway, Shweta would only come back for Indu and Indira if Rishi was included in the package 🤣

@ buddhu i dont want her to come back what i said that if she had not committed that crime of declaring indira dead without testing and if she had not hid the fact of indira,then we could have trusted her with indu but now its not possible thats what iam saying.

i have said if lw is indira,iam not saying about that mad woman,iam particular about indira here because i think she is much more matured than everyone of course she became the son of the house at a very tender age and we always criticized her for thinking only about family and not properly about rishi.But you know what girls have a very typical nature that she may get immense love from her husband and insult from her family(as in case of indira) whatever may be the situation but still we girls can never stop thinking about our family.this is a very common phenomena.even if we leave our family after marriage but still we cant stop thinking.

@blue here iam not comparing them,here iam not saying about the situation iam saying about the decision which indira took,we criticized her for that but it was for rishi's benefit only that is my point

zaara and rishi could have handled the matter of indira much more maturedly,comeon yaar at one point u r saying that indira the daughter of the family is back and at the next moment u r saying to throw her in the asylum,i mean jiske ghar mein rehte ho usike saath itna ganda behaviour.i know the house belongs to rishi now and for that you are now the maalkin but its indira's house which she gave to rishi

Paulomi, now you are going to get me started on my analysis of Indira. To me she is a very complex character. She was responsible but mature- I don't think so. Seeking happiness for yourself is NOT a sign of immaturity- yes there are right ways to go about it and wrong ways to go about it (maybe what Zara and Rishi are doing right now is the wrong way to purse happiness?- thats a topic for another day!). Sacrificing right and left for your family is also NOT a sign of maturity (but I don't think Indira's sacrificing was selfless either- read below)

Regarding Indira thinking about her family. Yes part of it was love and that is understandable (most girls like you said have this for their families even after marriage). But for Indira, her family was her identity- her only identity and this is the reason she continued to care for them despite their horrible ingratitude. For her to leave her family, she would have to face the fact that she had no identity outside of them and Indira's fears and insecurities always prevented her from doing this. So in a way, Indira found security and a identity in taking care of the family and this is why she continued to do it. It had little to do with love. You can argue if she did really truly love them, how come she remembers none of them and only recalls Rishi?

@ bold may be because rishi was the only one to love her back and not her family,now it is the matter of brain and human body which is a mystery to everyone,its just my assumption and different person have different thinkings about this,iam not going to argue or may be because as she is the female lead and rishi is the male lead so she had to remember rishi only😆😆 just in case of zaara that she forgot everything and she seemed to be happy with her life but within 1-2 months of stay in SN,whenever she closed her eyes she saw rishi🤣

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Lovely Post Pari...😊 I completely agree with you.
need to be applauded.👏

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Posted: 12 years ago

#298

time has been cruel to ricky diwan this man for his love has become rishi kumar along with his wife

he has suffered brutally seperated from 8 years

now he is married to zara we believe that sh e is indira only

lhwali pagal is so called indira rishi got stuck between thw two women and indu

he said to zara that she cant be heartless but zara took lhwali pagal to pagal khana

ricky diwan shouts in anger

we always wanted ricky diwan from bt track dulari track but ila bedi will never give us ricky diwan because its female dominated show?

but to make story forward now we need ricky diwan i want confrontation between zara and ricky diwan now a big fight that leads to ricky to get some proof regarding lhwali that she is real zara

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hebasamiya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#299

agree with u

Rishi should investigate about zara's identity then only all problem is going to solve

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Posted: 12 years ago

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@paulomi: rishi was the only person who loved back indira, and what about that family with whom she was for more than 20 years? Just for 1 year of relation, indira brain remembers only rishi and forgot the family with whom she shared biggest part of her life but if rishi is accepting few months of relation wid zara over an year of relationship wid indira, whats wrong then? Love can't be limited. This example just proved that love doesn't depends on amount of time we spend. And rishi also has right to be happy, whats wrong if he sees his happiness in zara. Indira accepted shweta for rishi, then why not zara?

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