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Posted: 12 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Walden

I'm sorry but I couldn't understand what you were trying to get across. I just pointed out the fact that Indira always used to say that her family was her zimmedari, she was always sad that she had to take care of them, she always waited for someone else to come and take this zimmedari away from her so that she could live her life (if you need recap of this, the perfect episode is right before Rishi and Indira wedding in the shed where she tries to explain to Rishi why she can't get married)
So did she love her family or just consider them her zimmedari or both? Whatever answer you come up with for Indira is the same answer for Rishi I suppose. That's all:))


My dear zimmedaari comes from two feelings,one is love and the other is guilt-feel.

For Indira to her family - What kind of guilt-feel she would have in taking the responsibility of her own family.If she would have been the only child,would there be any kind of sadness?No.She was sad because everyone depended on her but no one tried to be self-dependent.That was the real sad thing.If there would have been no love,then why did she try to save her house from Kukreja?She is a aworking-woman and she could have easily got any place to live.Why did she kept that 25 lakhs for her family?Just due to responsibility only?

For indira to Rishi - Rishi lied her about his identity,she forgave him when she came to know about his truth regarding his relation with family.Rishi did Vidit's accident,she forgave him seeing how much he did for Vidit to make him well.Rishi had no relation with Indira,but she gave him everything unconditionally.Is that just due to responsibility?She even lied about her false abortion of a false pregnancy,so that he can hate her and not suffer after her death.Is that just responsibility?She gave his hand in marriage just to see him happy,being loved and being taken care,may be her decision is wrong but her intention was not.Is that just due to responsibility?She even gave SN in his name.

Iam not saying that Rishi didn't love her.He too loved her unconditionally,more than anything than his life.But Indira was there in his life for more than 1 yrs when she was alive and during the last 8 yrs,but Zaara came only 2 months.Now when Indira returned whom he himself considered her as Indira,he totally for got her.Today what he said is that Indira is his responsibility and Zaara is his love.So what happened to his 8 yrs love suddenly in 2 months?He did not accept Shweta because of Indira and he is not accepting Indira as his love for Zaara.From the day he found Indira,he is always saying Iam your guilty but for a single time he didn't say about his love to her.All the time he used to say earlier that no one can take his Shrimatijis place even he said it when he decided to move on with Shweta and suddenly now Indira became his responsibility.

I don't know whats in future.In future,even if they make Zaara to be Indira herself,but still the dialogue which he used for Indira today,he insulted Indira's love,he insulted the mother of his child.For this dialogue,he has totally fallen from my eyes today.I was a die-hard Rishi and Inshi fan but I don't know whether I'll be able to respect him any more like earlier or not.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: -Paulomi-


My dear zimmedaari comes from two feelings,one is love and the other is guilt-feel.

For Indira to her family - What kind of guilt-feel she would have in taking the responsibility of her own family.If she would have been the only child,would there be any kind of sadness?No.She was sad because everyone depended on her but no one tried to be self-dependent.That was the real sad thing.If there would have been no love,then why did she try to save her house from Kukreja?She is a aworking-woman and she could have easily got any place to live.Why did she kept that 25 lakhs for her family?Just due to responsibility only?

For indira to Rishi - Rishi lied her about his identity,she forgave him when she came to know about his truth regarding his relation with family.Rishi did Vidit's accident,she forgave him seeing how much he did for Vidit to make him well.Rishi had no relation with Indira,but she gave him everything unconditionally.Is that just due to responsibility?She even lied about her false abortion of a false pregnancy,so that he can hate her and not suffer after her death.Is that just responsibility?She gave his hand in marriage just to see him happy,being loved and being taken care,may be her decision is wrong but her intention was not.Is that just due to responsibility?She even gave SN in his name.

Iam not saying that Rishi didn't love her.He too loved her unconditionally,more than anything than his life.But Indira was there in his life for more than 1 yrs when she was alive and during the last 8 yrs,but Zaara came only 2 months.Now when Indira returned whom he himself considered her as Indira,he totally for got her.Today what he said is that Indira is his responsibility and Zaara is his love.So what happened to his 8 yrs love suddenly in 2 months?He did not accept Shweta because of Indira and he is not accepting Indira as his love for Zaara.From the day he found Indira,he is always saying Iam your guilty but for a single time he didn't say about his love to her.All the time he used to say earlier that no one can take his Shrimatijis place even he said it when he decided to move on with Shweta and suddenly now Indira became his responsibility.

I don't know whats in future.In future,even if they make Zaara to be Indira herself,but still the dialogue which he used for Indira today,he insulted Indira's love,he insulted the mother of his child.For this dialogue,he has totally fallen from my eyes today.I was a die-hard Rishi and Inshi fan but I don't know whether I'll be able to respect him any more like earlier or not.

well said Paulomi ! 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
#73
Lol i am not surprised! Ila bedi bring more looalikes of indira and see how turn by turn each becomes pyar and zimmedaari...aakhir pyaar diwana hota hai
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Posted: 12 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: -Paulomi-


My dear zimmedaari comes from two feelings,one is love and the other is guilt-feel.

For Indira to her family - What kind of guilt-feel she would have in taking the responsibility of her own family.If she would have been the only child,would there be any kind of sadness?No.She was sad because everyone depended on her but no one tried to be self-dependent.That was the real sad thing.If there would have been no love,then why did she try to save her house from Kukreja?She is a aworking-woman and she could have easily got any place to live.Why did she kept that 25 lakhs for her family?Just due to responsibility only?

For indira to Rishi - Rishi lied her about his identity,she forgave him when she came to know about his truth regarding his relation with family.Rishi did Vidit's accident,she forgave him seeing how much he did for Vidit to make him well.Rishi had no relation with Indira,but she gave him everything unconditionally.Is that just due to responsibility?She even lied about her false abortion of a false pregnancy,so that he can hate her and not suffer after her death.Is that just responsibility?She gave his hand in marriage just to see him happy,being loved and being taken care,may be her decision is wrong but her intention was not.Is that just due to responsibility?She even gave SN in his name.

Iam not saying that Rishi didn't love her.He too loved her unconditionally,more than anything than his life.But Indira was there in his life for more than 1 yrs when she was alive and during the last 8 yrs,but Zaara came only 2 months.Now when Indira returned whom he himself considered her as Indira,he totally for got her.Today what he said is that Indira is his responsibility and Zaara is his love.So what happened to his 8 yrs love suddenly in 2 months?He did not accept Shweta because of Indira and he is not accepting Indira as his love for Zaara.From the day he found Indira,he is always saying Iam your guilty but for a single time he didn't say about his love to her.All the time he used to say earlier that no one can take his Shrimatijis place even he said it when he decided to move on with Shweta and suddenly now Indira became his responsibility.

I don't know whats in future.In future,even if they make Zaara to be Indira herself,but still the dialogue which he used for Indira today,he insulted Indira's love,he insulted the mother of his child.For this dialogue,he has totally fallen from my eyes today.I was a die-hard Rishi and Inshi fan but I don't know whether I'll be able to respect him any more like earlier or not.

Paulomi, I agree with some of what you said. You are right- responsiblity can come from a sense of guilt as well. But I fail to understand why Rishi should feel guilty. Yes he regrets the fact that Indira had to live this horrible life for 8 years and he couldn't do anything about it but what is his fault in this? She had BT and died. He hasn't wronged Indira in any way!
Regarding his love for Indira, yes he loves Indira and will always love her but he has moved on. He would have moved on much sooner if he hadn't been stuck with Shweta. He would have moved on much sooner if he had been given proper time and space to grieve for Indira. Instead he got boxed into this forceful relationship and the only thing he could do was hold on to Indira's memories and become depressed. To me, this was not Rishi.
So from what was shown today, I believe that Rishi has moved on and I don't find anything wrong with that. But this does not mean that he forgets his past. What I am trying to say is that accpeting zimmedari can also be a form of love (and I believe this for Indira as well).
Now this analysis is based on what they showed today. Now if they turn his characer 360 degrees tomorrow, I can't comment on that just yet.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: Walden

I don't know if Rishi is right or wrong- I'm just as confused as him. 🤣

But just wanted to say a few things about zimmedaari and love. For as long as Indira was alive, she always spoke of her family as a zimmedaari. She waited and waited for Vidit to come and take this zimmedari away from her. She always said that her zimmedaris prevented her from living her own life. So am I correct in assuming that Indira didn't love her family either? All they were to her is a zimmedari- something that she would have gotten rid of in a second if given the opportunity (usually that opportunity was Vidit). Just some food for thought!

I exactly!!! No one can argue with this !! I agree with you 1000%
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Posted: 12 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: HDInShi

what is happening to our rishi ?
i really cant understand the Cvs how they are potraying his character
he loved indira unconditonally...now she is a responsiblity for him
now he loves zara only...no indira
he is still confused about whom to choose indira or zara
now i really want zara to be proved indira only...other wise i am gonna kill the CVs😡

ZARA is INDIRA only...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Walden

Paulomi, I agree with some of what you said. You are right- responsiblity can come from a sense of guilt as well. But I fail to understand why Rishi should feel guilty. Yes he regrets the fact that Indira had to live this horrible life for 8 years and he couldn't do anything about it but what is his fault in this? She had BT and died. He hasn't wronged Indira in any way!
Regarding his love for Indira, yes he loves Indira and will always love her but he has moved on. He would have moved on much sooner if he hadn't been stuck with Shweta. He would have moved on much sooner if he had been given proper time and space to grieve for Indira. Instead he got boxed into this forceful relationship and the only thing he could do was hold on to Indira's memories and become depressed. To me, this was not Rishi.
So from what was shown today, I believe that Rishi has moved on and I don't find anything wrong with that. But this does not mean that he forgets his past. What I am trying to say is that accpeting zimmedari can also be a form of love (and I believe this for Indira as well).
Now this analysis is based on what they showed today. Now if they turn his characer 360 degrees tomorrow, I can't comment on that just yet.


me too i don't know whats in future,but yesterday I didn't like it

now if in future Indira becomes all well,her tumour is removed,then whom will he choose Indira or Zaara?If he chooses Zaara then what will be Indira's future moreover I don't think that Indu will accept Zaara as mother and she will be correct.Of course her own mother is in front of her eyes,so why will she accept someone else.

I was very surprised to hear that the person who once gave her everything for others,sacrificed each and every happiness,now became just a responsibility,but no one loves her.

I would like Indira to move on with Indu because Rishi was never worried about Indu just as he worries about Zaara which has been proved many times.I can understand why in 8 yrs he couldn't but suddenly within 2 months he moved on.GOOD.A person for whom he earlier fought with everyone now became just his responsibility.

It is said that some people born on the earth with bad luck and that bad luck doesn't leave them till death and Indira is one of them.
Edited by -Paulomi- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#78
Rishi needs love. No one loves him. And LW is not in the state to love him... he loves zara and zara loves him. he is doing everything he can to keep LW happy and thats what he is expected to.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _saumya_

Rishi needs love. No one loves him. And LW is not in the state to love him... he loves zara and zara loves him. he is doing everything he can to keep LW happy and thats what he is expected to.


kal ko agar asli waali indira thik ho gayi and she comes in the state to love him to tab vo kya karega?ab agar rishi ka sach jaanne ke baad indu usse aur nafrat kare to reality mein kya hum usey galat keh paayenge

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Posted: 12 years ago
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U supported Rishi whole heartedly till d previous epi den I assume u do understand his situation...if u do den I think u would understand him now too...😊
About d part where he says LW is zimidari den I would say evn to take up sumones zimidari dat person should b ur own n u definitely hav to love dat person , Indra also said dat taking care of sharma family was her zimidari does dat mean Dey were nly her responsibility or she actually loved dem? Well d answer is she did love dem n Dats y she spent her whole life taking care of dem. Same way Rishi is taking care of LW ...not to forget her own blood relations hav stepped aside in taking care of her n her own so called mother feels disgusted in looking after her...but here d nly person who stands by her is Rishi ...he has no force n can live his life happily but still he takes her responsibly n d reason is he treasures his past n his future he cannot ignore.
According to me either way Rishi will b bashed ...wether he chooses LW or zara Coz Wen he chooses zara v feel for LW n Wen he chooses LW v feel for zara...😕
As viewers if v can't choose den how can v expect Rishi to choose btw his past n present? 🤔

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