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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agreed with u totally. Even I had the same questions.

But agar yeh shaadi hojati aur Hitler didi hasti toh serial kaise chalta aage?...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ritu.V

Tell me something what will u do when u find ur would be husband has came to ur house as a tennant , fallen in love n getting married n suddenly u get to know ur brother who is parlaysed n made him handicapped by him due to drink drive accident n hidden that truth n ready for marriege , will u marry that person n forgive him?

If ur answer is yes then u r the Mahan Girl on this earth. But sadly Indira is not Mahan Girl , she did forgive rishi at many occasions such are bringing fake parents who insulted her badly, Internet profile changing n ruining her reputation , helping mandira to elope to Macau , pregnancy comment n insulting her again infront of family n outsider ,putting allegation on her for stealing her electronic gazzet etc etc etc etc etc , Inspite of that she accepted him in het life happily n started trusting, she fought with whole family n ready to marry because she was in love with him but where was she wrong , girls who look security in thier life but she accepted him inspite os knowing he is jobless, homeless n penniless , she supported him when Rishi own mother was insulting him but what did she get from him " dishonest n big lie " :( I just feel wierd people never think about Indira Pain but I m glad Indira got to know about vidit reality before marrige , things will change in her life hopefully n sadly she will never ever trust anyone thanks to RK Deewan

@ bold: The problem with this line of questioning is that it assumes that Rishi set out to hurt Indira on purpose. It comes across as if he had this grand plan of coming and marrying the sister of the man he purposely crushed beneath his car.

Please note, I am not for a moment implying that these questions are not important or valid. From Indira's point of view, its a huge blow to see her 'umeed' strapped to a wheelchair. She would naturally ask these questions. I only wish she asked herself some other questions as well. Some questions that have no easy answers; no 'correct' answers. Its important for her own sake.

The problem is with the tone in which Rishi's actions are questioned. It sounds as if Rishi first did whatever he had to with Vidhith and then came down to India to deliberately hurt and deceive Vidhith's family. He had it all neatly planned that he would fall in love with Indira and then, after they are married, he would reveal the sequence of events and get his forgiveness. That's neither correct nor fair. That's maligning and mutilating his character to a great extent.

As jkkg and others have been pointing out in numerous posts, Rishi is fully aware of his mistakes and is doing his best to atone for them. He is fully conscious of what he has done, what he is doing, and what he needs to do. As audience, we are still unaware of what exactly happened. Yesterday's episode did nothing to clarify that really.

Sure, he has his flaws and the biggest one (for me) is his excessive emotional dependence on Indira. He dreads losing her and once he overcomes this dread, he will start healing.

Sorry for the ramble, but the part in bold really are questions that Indira needs to answer. Her love for Rishi is genuine. But if everything and everyone has to align with her parameters of good, bad, right, and wrong, then she's going to ask these questions quite often. Referring to jkkg again, forgiveness is a tough thing, but has to be learned by one and all.

Sorry if any feelings have been hurt. But please look at it objectively.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiya229

coming to the show, i have already said, rishi isnt blamless and have said he is at fault. but i do feel, that despite that he has proven his love for indira.. so just on that note, he should be given a chance, actually more than a chance to at the very least explain himself.. to HER in PRIVATE.. which he wasnt granted.

plus, Vidith is ALIVE and is making a steady process. in all this tamasha, we have forgotten that the sick person needs attention and that, YES rishi has helped a LOT..

while i think its WRONG and a CRIME to hit and run after drinking and driving, what rishi was about to do, is common. i.e any young person's first instinct is to RUN.
but i think, the bigger point to be taken away is that HE stayed, hearing Indira's voice, which lead to the slow but sure betterment of vidith.

I do understand her pain, her anger- seeing someone who you love so much being hurt by another loved one isnt easy... it wil take time...

but that said, she hasnt given rishi a chance.. a chance she gave others around her. its a chance to make things right, to undo the wrong and explain himself- thats more important to me anyways!



How true... I cannot remember even a single instance when Rishi and Indira have had a serious conversation in PRIVATE. Everything is in public (and with public involved in it) . Even the marriage proposal happened in public ...( I don't have issues with the marriage proposal though.. just mentioned it)

Rishi really needed that PERSONAL conversation with Indira to explain himself. How I wish she had dragged him by his hand (like how she did in the police station), taken him to a room and then asked him to explain...

With so many enemies around him, he had no chance to say anything...
It would have been perfect if she had listened to him and only him (with no one else around) and then if she still felt he had done wrong, she could have ordered him to go away from her life.. It would have achieved double purpose 1) She gave him the chance to explain 2) It would prevent Sam and Munna from thrashing him like that, which was inhuman by any standards
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikki1591


young or not there is no excuse for even attempting to run away after hitting them with your car to die. to say one is young is making excuses. and ricki was not that young. he was old enough to know better.

plus he was getting married to indira w/o being honest w/ her. imagine having the person u love lie to u before marriage and to tell u after marriage only bc then u couldn't leave. that essentially a trap something that abusers do. not saying rishi is abusive but his actions were dispicable. and indira asked him to tell the truth. when he was telling the story he could have mentioned the hospital part but he didn't. ricki has lied over and over gain. indira has no reason to trust him after this. when someone lies so many times, the intent doesn't matter, the trust is broken. plus some part of rishi wanted to be Indira's hero which is why he didn't tell indira about vidith when his health improved. completely selfish on his part


@bold: I think i mentioned this somewhere: i am not excusing rishi's actions. Thats one of the more strong social messages, ingrained into us due to MADD etc. but i am saying that, that was two years ago.. the negativity of that action is sort of slain by the positive of rishi staying ( when his friends- Sanjay).

hmm... i hadnt considered the whole dishonesty angle-if she is upset about that- then i agree. we as viewers get the whole picture, but as a character- Indira, is justified at being angry at rishi's dishonesty.

but i dont agree with the abuse part: because rishi, like you said wanted to be her hero- in that sense, his thought was noble. but that gets me thinking, to whether he was acutally afraid of her rejection, because, she has always been bit of an extremist, when she loves rishi, its unconditional and when she shuns him, its unconditional as well.
I mentioned this - fear, everyone has for her- in another thread, and whether it ends up hurting Indira in the end!

but, i do think, for all the help he has given her, he deserves another chance to explain himself!



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Posted: 13 years ago
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hmmm well i think indira still dont know wht love is...
she likes rishi becoj he is always with her,he is not rude just like her family...
he care indu in every circumstances...ye cheeze koi bhi ladki pasand karegi...n chahe gi ki uski shaddi aise ladke se ho...yhi indu ke sath bhi ho rha tha...

i think real luv story will starts now...through this track indira will knows the true meaning of luv...indira is hitler not normal girl...she will take some time
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Indira does know what love is, but yes, to some extent, she has taken him for granted. leaving aside the whole vidith incident, she has again painted him with the same strokes as her father- a man= disappointment. even in her, she has withheld a part of her.

but that said, indira isnt a normal girl. she has had to grow up fast and face the harsh realities of life.i hope if and when she finds it in herelf to forgive rishi, she accepts him as a person as well.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiaravivian

hmmm well i think indira still dont know wht love is...
she likes rishi becoj he is always with her,he is not rude just like her family...
he care indu in every circumstances...ye cheeze koi bhi ladki pasand karegi...n chahe gi ki uski shaddi aise ladke se ho...yhi indu ke sath bhi ho rha tha...

i think real luv story will starts now...through this track indira will knows the true meaning of luv...indira is hitler not normal girl...she will take some time


@ Bold this is all about that ... as long as he is there to take care and understand he if fine
else... we all know what happened next
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Posted: 13 years ago
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like mentioned above I would just like to add enough of this guy taking care of everything ... not just her, her wonderful family as well ... such things don't happen in real may be one in a million its just a fantasy that such guys exist they'll do anything . jump in the right time ... save u and ya family from all the troubles bla bla bla
Now On I want it to be practical ... no helping taking care business,
I want it to be a Take it or Leave it types !!! no second chances for both rishi ya indu !!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good post Tiya...😊...you have raised a very good question : " Is It Always Gonna Be Like This ? "...Well given the different characters Indira & Rishi are, yes maybe thats how its gonna be and I don't mean that always Rishi will be thrown out BUT Rishi's actions will hurt Indira untill the point she realizes that Rishi's love for her is PURE & TRUE no matter what he says or does - he always has the best of intentions when it comes to her because he connects with her...I think Indira also needs to connect with Rishi to overlook his shortcomings...I mean she knows that his family has never been there for him and he craves for LOVE BUT because she herself is surrounded by SLEFISH family who don't give a damn about anything else except MONEY , her behavior & way of thinking has been adapted to HITLERgiri & very much ingrained in her...She is not able to LET GO COMPLETELY...like you know before the wedding she was trying to change her ways like Rishi had asked her to...But it was not all OUT...it will take time for her to OPEN up & LET LOOSE...

Also at the moment she is SHOCKED that the one she loved has caused her so much pain and is the reason for her brother being in that state...But yes maybe when Vidith gets better he will shine light on Rishi's good side...Naturally when you are so shocked you cannot think of forgiving or reasoning...Once she sees that her family is harrasing her ONLY HOPE - her Vidith bhaiya...she will break her silence & get him well & I'm sure Vidith will help Indira realize that Rishi is the one for her...

BUT in all this time v will get to c more of that PSYCHO Sam 😡who will try to ruin things for Vidith..

I think that Rishi needs to grab hold of reality & think this thru...Find SSanjay & become the Sleuth he has always been who reaches to the truth...this will take time...

So lets wait & watch...😛

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