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Posted: 17 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Bhoomi_fan

Beg to differ, but if Lucias isnt evil, who is???? And what u really mean by evil?????

As far as i'm concerened with, Lucias was a death eater and so, it is quite obvious that he commited (or atleast supported) murder. And the one who can do this limit of bad deeds, is definitely considered as "evil".

Yeah mit, i agree that draco and even narcisa wasnt that bad, forgiving them is ok, but about lucias, according to me, he shud have been punished.

ya u r rite....but hez not evil...a.s luky ritly sed dat evil is too strng wrd.....n ya he shud hav been punishd but not punishment likee a life sentence in azkaban
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Krupa-

Wait a second..
Draco is cleared because he's not evil..just a bit annoying & self-centered
Narcissa isn't evil either..she has never killed anyone, she's even saved Harry's life!
Lucius, well..as far as I remember he isn't evil either!..he hasn't done anything majorly wrong except for Tom's Diary & Bribing the MoM..other than that..nothing!..

ya as afr as i remember u r rite
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi

well seems like I am the only one who thinks on a different line..
well No matter!! I like being Unique!!! 😆 😆 😆

on dis case i am wid u yaar😳😉...surprisin!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: tukz_REmix

on dis case i am wid u yaar😳😉...surprisin!



ha AT lastt!!!😉 Tukz..U always steal sumthing from me na..U have ur beady eyes on Alan whoz mine and now U cum to share the Unique Place!😆😉

anyways...
as for the SELFISENESS IN Lucius' and Narcissa's act...
Ok let me just ask u...thinking on the same lines..
Isnt SEVERUS SNAPE the most selfish of them all then???😕
Bcoz Snape did every single stuff (all of those for which we love him and he are holding him soo high now!) for anf only for Lily Potter! He had a VERY SELFISH cause...
(NOTE: I say this being a huge fan of This Character😃)

We see Selflessness Seldom...
Selfishness is no fault..It means ur are as normal as we abnormals...
anyways...even then Severus Snape doesnt fall into the cateogory of SELFISH people for all that he persevered blah blah..It was a mere corollary..he was an intesnse person in all dimensions...

N does Snape qualify an Evil person any more to u guys??? I take it No, at least for a majority(I myself think so for reasons given below)
why isnt he??
I believe it to be simply bcoz he was a man who learnt his mistake thru terrible blows which struck him one after the other..
Men are easily led the wrong way...
It takes a great deal of courage to make up ur mind to follow the path of redemption...

Whatever may have been the circumstance, he ended up doing just that...the change in him(Not his basic vindicative character but in his outlook) is evident from the single dialogue of his in DHt o Dumbledore query "How many men and women have u watched die recently Severus...?" that "Only the ones whom I havent been able to save"

Men take time to understand their mistake and change..U must give them time to get over all his...The Path of Redemption isnt whats diffoicult..But its the Path TO redemption that is...whats wrong if thats triggered by a selfish interest...It cums down to same thing anyways for we are all humans...
One shudnt simply jump into the canon and passing ur judgement of a person who is as sane, mortal and as it follows humanly flawed as u...

Lucius's case is similar...I think u all wud agree that Lucius is nowhere near Snape when it cums to Bravery and will power...But time changes people...He may indeed conspicuously lack that innate bravery and courage, But still he is as human and so whatever may have been he reason, one day a man, whose soul isnt really so much tainted as Voldemort's(who is beyond redemption in Jo's words) and simply loved the luxury and pomp of being "pure blood" and all that rubbish....they have the choice of redemption and I for one think that The malfoys all wud have chosen the path for all we know...

every human bravado act is triggered off my ur emotions and selfshness...
behind every virtuous act is a Deep Human mystery...

PS: I hope we have agreed that age has concessions and that Draco was merely led the wrong way and not evil...😊
Edited by lucky_lakshmi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#15
^^well then I dun understand and agree with this LAW which u are refering to...
but a Higher Judge..the highest of them all wil...that I formly believe no matter how others may contradict me 😊

PS: What MURDER are u refering to?😳😕
Edited by lucky_lakshmi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#16
^^^Really??/ and was Snape, whom I think u like so much, Never a Death Eater??
Didnt he also support Voldemort b4 he came back to the better side?!
How is it that rules are different for different people? 😕 😕 😕 If that is 'LAW', Then I am glad not to understand and believe in it..
The LAW I know doesnt do that...

I said this b4..Give people time...they dun burst out of the sky with innate qualities of virtue and goodness in them! Only with time do u understand and recognise ur faults and to correct them , u need the mental courage and shud persevere..One can only hope That the Malfoys were able to.

PS: Well, From ur kinda Mocking Tone, I guess U take me to Love Lucius..Sry to disappoint I dont! 😉 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi

^^^Really??/ and was Snape, whom I think u like so much, Never a Death Eater??
Didnt he also support Voldemort b4 he came back to the better side?!
How is it that rules are different for different people? 😕 😕 😕 If that is 'LAW', Then I am glad not to understand and believe in it..
The LAW I know doesnt do that...

I said this b4..Give people time...they dun burst out of the sky with innate qualities of virtue and goodness in them! Only with time do u understand and recognise ur faults and to correct them , u need the mental courage and shud persevere..One can only hope That the Malfoys were able to.

PS: Well, From ur kinda Mocking Tone, I guess U take me to Love Lucius..Sry to disappoint I dont! 😉 😆

It is said that Snape came back to the Good side, and regreted what he had done(be it for selfish reasons or not.....)But where in any of the 7 books was it written that Lucius & Narcissa came over to the good side???????????

They just went and searched the castle 4 Draco but they never faught against Voldemort......or try to help Harry bcoz it was a good thing to do or bcoz it would help destroy Voldy......BUT snape really regretted and became good.......😳

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Posted: 17 years ago
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^^Just bcoz we dun have another chapter "Luciu's Tale", that doesnt mean that he never redeemed and understood his wrong n corrected himself...
I think the Malfoys showed the possibility of changing and so there is a huge chance that they did...that may be why they werent 'Punished'...

N again I ask..WHAT made Snape Repent?? Lily...He had a very selfish interest which developed him to act so selflessly...

Daddy and Mummy Malfoys were indeed trying to find Draco...They held their Son above all this war n whatever stuff...they just wanted out of this and be safe(😆). But given a choice, they wud have prefered their personal safety over war of Muggles v/s Wizards or Purebloods...

They dont display Foolish bravery like Gryffindors and choose to save their necks any given day...Jst coz u dun hell bent urself to Save sumone putting urself in danger, U arent a bad person...a Shrewd person isnt evil...Nyway I see no reason for them to go saving Harry when they have their own son to think of...No Sane Human will so. (Though Malfoys are really Foolish no doubt😆 )

Bellatrix for one is really evil...I dun need to explain...Outward Physical contrast can be used effectively to imply character contrast if u have no space to explain in detail...which has been done pretty well in Narcissa-Bella case...Sry I amnt efering to Looks but just he difference is subyle and heavy features can oft been manipulated enough to make u understad contrast in characters...

agreed that Lucius or any of the Malfoys may no have displayed the bravery or Mental Strength of Sevrus...But That doesnt necessarily reflect them as Evil...Evil needs Mental Strenth..

N Lucius...Is the SLIPPERY FRIEND...This guy liked to worm out of trouble and have everything his way but is too lazzy to really work 😆--I repeat This is just what I think and I am not forcing my view on ohers😊

Edited by lucky_lakshmi - 17 years ago
Mit's113 thumbnail
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Fine lakshmi, but why do u say that Gryffindors show foolish Bravery and don't go on and save their Necks??? I don't think that gryffindor bravery is foolish(maybe u urself were joking when u wrote this.....) 😳

And yes u r very good in explaining & convincing people.....

This time also u have convinced me at last!!!! 😳

Maybe the malfoys became good at last anyways... 😳 We would actually need anther chapter called lucius's tale to find that out.... 😳

Ha! ha! ha! 🤣
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Posted: 17 years ago
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^^^Well Gryffindors are kinda Foolish to sum extend..But I was half Joking anyway 😊

Lolz...I Know why u are 'convinced' yaar---I write soo much Lonng Looong posts and bore u guys and U fling up ur hands in exasperation tired of my adamancy and say "Ok Ok enough U have it ur way!" 😆 😉
😉

Good Lord..One More Chapter Of Lucius...Oh No yaar!!! 😆 😉 😆

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