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Posted: 18 years ago
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There are a few cryptic questions in HBP which werent quite convincingly answered in the book.

Firstly,when Harry confronts Mundungus at Hogsmeade and launches into a tirade for nicking some stuff from Sirius' home,Mundungus is spotted with some "silver goblet/object".He Apparates out pronto,but whatever happened to the object is unknown.Does anyone feel what he was clutching was a horcrux???😕

Secondly,when Harry hides the Half Blood Prince's book in the Room of Requirment,he comes across a closet,where he finds a cage with a 5 legged skeleton,a statue on whose head he places a wig and a tiara..This at first doesnt seem to be of much importance,but what incase there's more to these objects than meets the eye??.Any views about objects(namely,the tiara,cage and wig??)

Thirdly,when Ron gets poisoned on his birthday,Hagrid tells Harry that Snape and Dumbledore had a heated argument,where Snape tells Dumbledore that he's being taken for granted and he doesnt wish to continue the task(whatever it was) any longer.Again,this point was never taken up in the book and explained.What do you reckon they were discussing about,and what was it that Snape didnt want to continue any longer??

Lastly,when Lupin asks Harry to see how old the book of the half blood prince is,its 50 years old.Thus they conclude that it could never have belonged to any of the Marauders...Finally,its revealed that the book belonged to Snape...Now wasnt Snape too a contemporary of the Marauders,so if the book is 50 years old,how could it have belonged to Snape (unless it was a second hand book😕)...But Voldemort went to Hogwarts 50 years ago,so couldnt that book have belonged to him😛??..Snape accuses James of having used his spells,but what if those spells were never invented by Snape??perhaps those spells were conceived and developed b Voldemort,and the others were plainly using those..Any views on these questions??

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Heh u look like u are new here 😉 . Well, not look like but sound like u r new. U know what I mean, right 😆 ?

Ok, so let me try to answer ur questuins. 😕

Does anyone feel what Mundungus was clutching was a horcrux???
I really think that is cause dident Holga Hupelfuf have a magical glass? I might be wrong, but wait till other members post back.


Second ques: I got noooooo idea. 😕 😆


What was it that Snape didnt want to continue any longer??
I know the answer to this one, as it is stated before Snape works as a spy, on both of the sides. He says that he is on the really good side, (but is he?).


Third ques: It really seems possible, tough I don remember Lupin (who is damm hot!)telling Harry to find anything about book.

Please tell me if I satisfied with u with my ans.

-Aastha


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Posted: 18 years ago
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Firstly,when Harry confronts Mundungus at Hogsmeade and launches into a tirade for nicking some stuff from Sirius' home,Mundungus is spotted with some "silver goblet/object".He Apparates out pronto,but whatever happened to the object is unknown.Does anyone feel what he was clutching was a horcrux???😕


It is widely acknowledged that Harry's run in with Mundungus was to set up the story line in Deathly Hallows wherein the Trio realise that the Locket Horcrux might be unwittingly stolen by Mundungus and they will track him down. I think that the Dung has or might have had the locket Horcrux at some point and the trio will track him down.

I don't think that the other things he stole are of any consequence other than to just show Harry's rage at anyone trying to besmirch Sirius's memory.

Secondly,when Harry hides the Half Blood Prince's book in the Room of Requirment,he comes across a closet,where he finds a cage with a 5 legged skeleton,a statue on whose head he places a wig and a tiara..This at first doesnt seem to be of much importance,but what incase there's more to these objects than meets the eye??.Any views about objects(namely,the tiara,cage and wig??)

Hmmm...they might be important...they did catch my eye when I was readin HBP for the millionth time...in any case...Harry will come across them once again since I believe that he will go to find the Half Blood Prince's book in DH in the room of requirements

Thirdly,when Ron gets poisoned on his birthday,Hagrid tells Harry that Snape and Dumbledore had a heated argument,where Snape tells Dumbledore that he's being taken for granted and he doesnt wish to continue the task(whatever it was) any longer.Again,this point was never taken up in the book and explained.What do you reckon they were discussing about,and what was it that Snape didnt want to continue any longer??



Well, this question ties in closely with another important question regarding Snape's loyalty...and as I'm ambiguous about that question...I can't answer this one...


If Snape's with Voldemort, then his argument with Dumbledore might be due to him not agreeing with DD and not wanting to continue doing Dumbledore's bidding any longer...


If Snape's with Dumbledore, then it might be DD pleading with Snape to execute DD's plan and kill him and Snape not agreeing to it. Though why would DD want to kill himself...when he can be of so much more use to Harry in life than in death...and so this theory seems rather far- fetched to me

Lastly,when Lupin asks Harry to see how old the book of the half blood prince is,its 50 years old.Thus they conclude that it could never have belonged to any of the Marauders...Finally,its revealed that the book belonged to Snape...Now wasnt Snape too a contemporary of the Marauders,so if the book is 50 years old,how could it have belonged to Snape (unless it was a second hand book😕)...But Voldemort went to Hogwarts 50 years ago,so couldnt that book have belonged to him😛??..Snape accuses James of having used his spells,but what if those spells were never invented by Snape??perhaps those spells were conceived and developed b Voldemort,and the others were plainly using those..Any views on these questions??



Well..your facts are wrong dear...Snape's book first belonged to his mother, Eileen Prince-Snape when she was at school, 50 years ago.

Since the Snapes are poor(OotP: Snape's Worst Memory) it seems likely that Snape got the book from his mother as he couldn't buy a new one.

'It's just that 1 was right about Eileen Prince once owning the book. You see ... she was Snape's mother!'

---Hermione in HBP, Chapter 30, The White Tomb


Also, the spells were invented by Snape since he tells Harry when he's fleeing from Hogwarts and Harry attempts to use the Sectumsempra curse on Snape:

"You dare use my own spells against me, Potter? It was I who invented them - I, the Half-Blood Prince! And you'd turn my inventions on me, like your filthy father, would you? I don't think so . . . no"

---Severus Snape, HBP, Chapter 28, The Flight of the Prince


Edited by xMarauderx - 18 years ago
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Firstly,when Harry confronts Mundungus at Hogsmeade and launches into a tirade for nicking some stuff from Sirius' home,Mundungus is spotted with some "silver goblet/object".He Apparates out pronto,but whatever happened to the object is unknown.Does anyone feel what he was clutching was a horcrux???

yeah thats a very very important point in the book i noticed it there is a very good possibility that mundungus might be having a hrorcruxe without knowing thinking its unique and trying to sell it

Secondly,when Harry hides the Half Blood Prince's book in the Room of Requirment,he comes across a closet,where he finds a cage with a 5 legged skeleton,a statue on whose head he places a wig and a tiara..This at first doesnt seem to be of much importance,but what incase there's more to these objects than meets the eye??.Any views about objects(namely,the tiara,cage and wig??)

thats something i have been thinking 4 long but i really dunno 😆

Thirdly,when Ron gets poisoned on his birthday,Hagrid tells Harry that Snape and Dumbledore had a heated argument,where Snape tells Dumbledore that he's being taken for granted and he doesnt wish to continue the task(whatever it was) any longer.Again,this point was never taken up in the book and explained.What do you reckon they were discussing about,and what was it that Snape didnt want to continue any longer??

i m very sure that snape is +ve and he is very loyal to dumbledore maybe dumdore saw in future there can be a time when dumble's death would be best and he would have asked snape to do doesn't it all fit??
he is scared t
o kill dumble b'cuz he is loyal and doesn't want dumble to die and at last dumble convinces him to kill him if such a point comes i guess thats what the argument is about

Lastly,when Lupin asks Harry to see how old the book of the half blood prince is,its 50 years old.Thus they conclude that it could never have belonged to any of the Marauders...Finally,its revealed that the book belonged to Snape...Now wasnt Snape too a contemporary of the Marauders,so if the book is 50 years old,how could it have belonged to Snape (unless it was a second hand book)...But Voldemort went to Hogwarts 50 years ago,so couldnt that book have belonged to him??..Snape accuses James of having used his spells,but what if those spells were never invented by Snape??perhaps those spells were conceived and developed b Voldemort,and the others were plainly using those..Any views on these questions??

yeah it might be but i really dunno anything about this there are so many possibilities 😆
well lets wait 4 the last book



very cool questions👏
welcome here!!!
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griffy




Edited by griffinmonster - 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: xMarauderx




Well..your facts are wrong dear...Snape's book first belonged to his mother, Eileen Prince-Snape when she was at school, 50 years ago.

Since the Snapes are poor(OotP: Snape's Worst Memory) it seems likely that Snape got the book from his mother as he couldn't buy a new one.


Also, the spells were invented by Snape since he tells Harry when he's fleeing from Hogwarts and Harry attempts to use the Sectumsempra curse on Snape:


wow never thought lolz 😆 (i have enugh to think 😆) i really agree on taht great 👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: joie de vivre

There are a few cryptic questions in HBP which werent quite convincingly answered in the book.

Firstly,when Harry confronts Mundungus at Hogsmeade and launches into a tirade for nicking some stuff from Sirius' home,Mundungus is spotted with some "silver goblet/object".He Apparates out pronto,but whatever happened to the object is unknown.Does anyone feel what he was clutching was a horcrux???😕

I dont think those wud have been horcruxes cause Voldy wud have never have kept a horcrux like dat...i mean look how his other horcruxes are protected....apart from the diary of course...but i do feel dat those silver object will play of some importance in the next book !!!

Secondly,when Harry hides the Half Blood Prince's book in the Room of Requirment,he comes across a closet,where he finds a cage with a 5 legged skeleton,a statue on whose head he places a wig and a tiara..This at first doesnt seem to be of much importance,but what incase there's more to these objects than meets the eye??.Any views about objects(namely,the tiara,cage and wig??)

hhhhmmmmm.....nice thought....but what can it be though !?!?!....it cud have been voldy's owl when he was in school🤣....or it can be a....actually i have absolutely no idea.....sorry...

Thirdly,when Ron gets poisoned on his birthday,Hagrid tells Harry that Snape and Dumbledore had a heated argument,where Snape tells Dumbledore that he's being taken for granted and he doesnt wish to continue the task(whatever it was) any longer.Again,this point was never taken up in the book and explained.What do you reckon they were discussing about,and what was it that Snape didnt want to continue any longer??

I agree wid nitin_dave 👏........

Lastly,when Lupin asks Harry to see how old the book of the half blood prince is,its 50 years old.Thus they conclude that it could never have belonged to any of the Marauders...Finally,its revealed that the book belonged to Snape...Now wasnt Snape too a contemporary of the Marauders,so if the book is 50 years old,how could it have belonged to Snape (unless it was a second hand book😕)...But Voldemort went to Hogwarts 50 years ago,so couldnt that book have belonged to him😛??..Snape accuses James of having used his spells,but what if those spells were never invented by Snape??perhaps those spells were conceived and developed b Voldemort,and the others were plainly using those..Any views on these questions??

I agree wid griffinmonster.....said exactly what i wanted to say !!! 👏

Well dis are my views.....what say !?!?!

kittens

Edited by free2b_kittens - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Good Questions and Welcome to IF!! 👏

Firstly,when Harry confronts Mundungus at Hogsmeade and launches into a tirade for nicking some stuff from Sirius' home,Mundungus is spotted with some "silver goblet/object".He Apparates out pronto,but whatever happened to the object is unknown.Does anyone feel what he was clutching was a horcrux???
Maybe he was... 😉

Secondly,when Harry hides the Half Blood Prince's book in the Room of Requirment,he comes across a closet,where he finds a cage with a 5 legged skeleton,a statue on whose head he places a wig and a tiara..This at first doesnt seem to be of much importance,but what incase there's more to these objects than meets the eye??.Any views about objects(namely,the tiara,cage and wig??)
I didnt pay much attention but if dey were dere dey must be dere for a reason.

Thirdly,when Ron gets poisoned on his birthday,Hagrid tells Harry that Snape and Dumbledore had a heated argument,where Snape tells Dumbledore that he's being taken for granted and he doesnt wish to continue the task(whatever it was) any longer.Again,this point was never taken up in the book and explained.What do you reckon they were discussing about,and what was it that Snape didnt want to continue any longer??
Maybe he didnt wanna continue being a spy anymore or working at hogwarts anymore

Lastly,when Lupin asks Harry to see how old the book of the half blood prince is,its 50 years old.Thus they conclude that it could never have belonged to any of the Marauders...Finally,its revealed that the book belonged to Snape...Now wasnt Snape too a contemporary of the Marauders,so if the book is 50 years old,how could it have belonged to Snape (unless it was a second hand book)...But Voldemort went to Hogwarts 50 years ago,so couldnt that book have belonged to him??..Snape accuses James of having used his spells,but what if those spells were never invented by Snape??perhaps those spells were conceived and developed b Voldemort,and the others were plainly using those..
U knoe, i never thought abt dis.. Hmmm it luks important.. However maybe the date on the book was wrong or maybe the book did actually belong to voldemort.. however voldemort was more into dark arts den potions and snape is really gud in potions..
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