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Posted: 11 years ago
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So far the story is going good though slow. I admire allof you when I read your perspectives on each character of the soap. We all hate Barkha, we all love Nikhil for standing up for Lajjo and for trying to do the right thing, we all love innocence of Lajjo and we all hate Ayesha and Sid.

But if you would think logistically and put yourself in to Barkha's s shoes, her background, her education and the affluent lifestyle where her housekeeper also has a high standard of living, how difficult it is for her to bless nikhil and Lajjo as a couple especially when Nikhil has not accepted Lajjo either. If we talk about a normal human to human behavior, don't we all have biases on how we treat others depending on how much we like or not like them. Here Barkha is unable to see Lajjo as being a part of her family and so is her reaction which I find to be very normal. she wants her out no matter what. When unacceptance rules the heart, it does not matter how much Lajjo could bend to please her, Barkha can not recognize Lajjo as another woman with a heart or understand Lajjo's situation. She will only melt for Lajjo ( as another human/woman) when and if she gets to accept her presence in her lifecycle.

Ayesha could be a little less **itchy with Lajjo, being a younger generation could be more accepting of Lajjo just staying inher house as a guest but somewhere she is scared and jealous of Lajjo's simplistic beauty and is only seeing her as Nikhil's wife. In her arrogance she is not able to see Lajjo's pain and is unaccepting of Lajjo in her social circle. If I would put myself in Ayesha's shoes, I could be hurt with Nikhil's action of marrying Lajjo but being who I am I would direct my anger on Nikhil and not Lajjo and leave her alone.


The only way, Nikhil could save the situation and pay for his nonacceptance of Lajjo as his wife is to take Lajjo out to a woman's hostel/other safe atmosphere and give her all the opportunities to have good education and to be on her two feet. He can live his live the way he wants to live then.

He could be cute and gentle and understanding but he has wronged many people and has to take steps to rectify and win everyone back. He can't shuttle between the two woman depending on his mood swings.

Would love to hear your perspectives-


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post, you are looking at the other side Barka/Ayesha and their viewpoint, but as a mother she has a daughter what if something like this happened to Ayesha, Ayesha was caught in a compromising situation and due to circumstances to protect her reputation was married off to the guy, he was a nice guy but her in-laws refuse to accept her for whatever reason, I suppose in her case the guy would be less wealthy and she is high maintenance doesn't know how to do household chores, they treat her like a pariah, it's not right is it? So that's why it's important to look at both sides and not only one side. Fair enough she's not their kind of people but she's willing to learn unlike Ayesha I'm sure if she was married to a poor family she wouldn't be willing to adjust and learn their way. They should all behave their age and call a meeting Laajo's parents, Grandfather of Nikhil and all the elders there to discuss what to do, now that the marriage of Siddharth and Ayesha has been cancelled they can deal with this Lakhil matter now, before perhaps they were busy with arrangements for the wedding but as that has fallen through, they can with the Lakhil situation now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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you have raised some very valid points about Barakha... and to some extend one can understand her meanness towards Lajoo... but then she is equally mean towards Nikhil blaming him for Akash's death... and she even emotionally blackmail Nikhil to leave Lajo if he want her to forgive him for Akash's death... so she does come across as a mean and selfish manipulative person...
Ayesh is self centered person... and is ridding on her high horse... the only thing matters to her is her own happiness... for argument sake lets just say Lajoo tried to lure Sid... but why did Sid went to Lajo's room? or just because he is Man his actions are justifies... Ayesha need to think about that...

What you are suggesting Nikhil should do about Lajo is right and is a very valid suggestion...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good post
I like the part about taking Lajjo out of that house and to some place where she can breath a fresh air.

Thing is Nikhil is too young to think such things, his uncle can help him by giving a good advice, Nikhil needs help.

About Barkha, I think after Akash's death she has gone through some kind of depression, she needs professional help to forget Akash and forgive Nikhil.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You have raised very good points here...I actually understand how Barkha is she has grown up like that u can see her mother who cares about wordly pleasures and societal norms which has been nurtured into Barkha and Ayesha as well. She can't accept the very fact that a girl from a village can live here, I don't think she likes going to her husband's place either. Everyone forms certain biases as u said all of them hve prejudices against Lajjo but the fact is they should start understanding her at the human level forget about the bahu part. About the the other son's death, Barkha hasn't moved on she is still on that time loop when it comes to that aspect she will find it very difficult to accept what has happened.
I liked ur suggestion very much, am really hoping Lajjo gets to study and even become independent that will be a good social message
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lotus8

So far the story is going good though slow. I admire allof you when I read your perspectives on each character of the soap. We all hate Barkha, we all love Nikhil for standing up for Lajjo and for trying to do the right thing, we all love innocence of Lajjo and we all hate Ayesha and Sid.

But if you would think logistically and put yourself in to Barkha's s shoes, her background, her education and the affluent lifestyle where her housekeeper also has a high standard of living, how difficult it is for her to bless nikhil and Lajjo as a couple especially when Nikhil has not accepted Lajjo either.
If we talk about a normal human to human behavior, don't we all have biases on how we treat others depending on how much we like or not like them. Here Barkha is unable to see Lajjo as being a part of her family and so is her reaction which I find to be very normal. she wants her out no matter what. When unacceptance rules the heart, it does not matter how much Lajjo could bend to please her, Barkha can not recognize Lajjo as another woman with a heart or understand Lajjo's situation. She will only melt for Lajjo ( as another human/woman) when and if she gets to accept her presence in her lifecycle.

Ayesha could be a little less **itchy with Lajjo, being a younger generation could be more accepting of Lajjo just staying inher house as a guest but somewhere she is scared and jealous of Lajjo's simplistic beauty and is only seeing her as Nikhil's wife. In her arrogance she is not able to see Lajjo's pain and is unaccepting of Lajjo in her social circle. If I would put myself in Ayesha's shoes, I could be hurt with Nikhil's action of marrying Lajjo but being who I am I would direct my anger on Nikhil and not Lajjo and leave her alone.


The only way, Nikhil could save the situation and pay for his nonacceptance of Lajjo as his wife is to take Lajjo out to a woman's hostel/other safe atmosphere and give her all the opportunities to have good education and to be on her two feet. He can live his live the way he wants to live then.

He could be cute and gentle and understanding but he has wronged many people and has to take steps to rectify and win everyone back. He can't shuttle between the two woman depending on his mood swings.

Would love to hear your perspectives-




Nice post!!!👍🏼


While I agree with you on your points the one in bold is what sticks out for me. Barka has not (for me at least) had normal human to human behaviour when it comes to her son Nikhil. Everyone has recognized that Akash death was an accident but for her to choose to continue blaming Nikhil for something that happened a decade ago (what was he 10-11 years old at the time?) is past normal behaviour. I could understand her reacting this way had the incident just occurred OR Nikhil was an adult but even then it was still just an accident. He didn't commit murder hence the name "accident". As long as she behaves in this manner towards Nikhil I can never see things from her side as a "normal human to human interactions". She seems to take everything to the extreme. Even the way she behaves toward Inder, grates on me.
What I don't get in this whole scenario though (as per her behaviour) is her acceptance of Ishana. You would think she would not accept Ishana as she is/was Nikhil's GF. I can only make the assumption that she likes her since she has known her since childhood - otherwise that piece of the puzzle doesn't fit😆.

As for Ayesha? She's just the product of her mom and Nani. Had she been raised more tolerant perhaps she would not have turned out that way. Gunja seems fine and was raised in that household however would not have had as much interactions with Barka and Nani as Ayesha did. Plus her dad seems very down to earth and who knows when/how her mom ended up leaving them, so that could have been why she is different as well...


As for leaving her in a hostel? Nay, I don't want that😆. I want their love story to move forward, not backward😆😆. Although that would solve some of the problems in his life right now BUT unless he is willing to divorce her it will just be a "bandaid" solution. Now, if he wants to leave with Laajo and then encourage her to study, I'm right on board😉



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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with you on certain points...MAINLY nikhil should have taken Lajjo to a hostel for her to complete her education...instead he does not think about her at all.
Coming to Barkha she's too modern as a mom, know it is difficult for her to give a sudden acceptance to Lajjo as her DIl firstly she already accepted Ishana and now Lajjo stepped in... But Barkha Problem is only because Lajjo is from a village ands so is Indur her hubby...
Ayesha I don't understand her so can't talk about her...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ALUJNA21

I agree with you on certain points...MAINLY nikhil should have taken Lajjo to a hostel for her to complete her education...instead he does not think about her at all.
Coming to Barkha she's too modern as a mom, know it is difficult for her to give a sudden acceptance to Lajjo as her DIl firstly she already accepted Ishana and now Lajjo stepped in... But Barkha Problem is only because Lajjo is from a village ands so is Indur her hubby...
Ayesha I don't understand her so can't talk about her...



Inder, his brother and her SIL and DIL all are from the village. You'd think with almost half the family originating from the village she'd have a little easier time accepting Laajo. I still think her biggest problem is her relationship with Nikhil. If that were fixed, I'm sure they would have had an easier time accepting Laajo. Sure they may not have accepted her day one, but I don't think they would have treated her they way they currently are had the relationship between mother and son been kosher.

Also, please recall that Barka herself married a villager. If she could find it in herself to accept and fall in love with a villager than why can't she bend even a little bit for Laajo. I still say the root of the problem is that she is used to blaming Nikhil for everything and has zero relationship with him. She definitely needs help...

So lets recap:

1) Barka married a villager...(obviously she accepted him but throws out taunts whenever she feels like it)
2) Her brother married a villager... (whom unfortunately is still ridiculed by her all of her in-laws)
3) Her BIL was also raised in the village...(seems to accept him without a problem)
4) Her son married a villager...(can't accept her at all)

So as you can see from above, this is NOT her 1st run in with a villager in her family so she should not have such a big issue with it as she is making it, which is why I stress again that I think it all boils down to her crippled relationship with her son...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parm.


Nice post!!!👍🏼


While I agree with you on your points the one in bold is what sticks out for me. Barka has not (for me at least) had normal human to human behaviour when it comes to her son Nikhil. Everyone has recognized that Akash death was an accident but for her to choose to continue blaming Nikhil for something that happened a decade ago (what was he 10-11 years old at the time?) is past normal behaviour. I could understand her reacting this way had the incident just occurred OR Nikhil was an adult but even then it was still just an accident. He didn't commit murder hence the name "accident". As long as she behaves in this manner towards Nikhil I can never see things from her side as a "normal human to human interactions". She seems to take everything to the extreme. Even the way she behaves toward Inder, grates on me.
What I don't get in this whole scenario though (as per her behaviour) is her acceptance of Ishana. You would think she would not accept Ishana as she is/was Nikhil's GF. I can only make the assumption that she likes her since she has known her since childhood - otherwise that piece of the puzzle doesn't fit😆.

As for Ayesha? She's just the product of her mom and Nani. Had she been raised more tolerant perhaps she would not have turned out that way. Gunja seems fine and was raised in that household however would not have had as much interactions with Barka and Nani as Ayesha did. Plus her dad seems very down to earth and who knows when/how her mom ended up leaving them, so that could have been why she is different as well...


As for leaving her in a hostel? Nay, I don't want that😆. I want their love story to move forward, not backward😆😆. Although that would solve some of the problems in his life right now BUT unless he is willing to divorce her it will just be a "bandaid" solution. Now, if he wants to leave with Laajo and then encourage her to study, I'm right on board😉



Parm ,very true look at her judgement she can't make the difference between an accident and a murder. She's only blaming her own younger son to kill or I may say to let go the hand of his elder brother, It also began to rain so Akash hand slipped from Nikhil hand.
I also think if she does not like Nikhil that much how come Ishana is in her good book?
Parm I also agree with Lotus that for somewhile Nikhil should left Lajjo in a hostel, she will study her sense of dressing will change, she will have new friends like her hubby with whom she can hang around with😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ALUJNA21

Parm ,very true look at her judgement she can't make the difference between an accident and a murder. She's only blaming her own younger son to kill or I may say to let go the hand of his elder brother, It also began to rain so Akash hand slipped from Nikhil hand.
I also think if she does not like Nikhil that much how come Ishana is in her good book?
Parm I also agree with Lotus that for somewhile Nikhil should left Lajjo in a hostel, she will study her sense of dressing will change, she will have new friends like her hubby with whom she can hang around with😆




Not only did she blame him for his death, she insinuated that it was Nikhil that made Akash go on the roof in the first place even though in Nikhil's flashback's it was shown that Akash choose to go up himself and Nikhil even tried to dissuade him from doing. Unfortunately Nikhil was unsuccessful at trying to convince his older brother from going up on the roof so decided to follow him up... If he hadn't gone up, Akash still would have perished. Instead he tried with all his might to hold on to his older brother's hand Akash but was unable to do so with his childish strength. The whole thing is that Barka thinks her studious, non mischief making son Akash (I'm assuming that is how he was viewed by his family) was instigated by his younger brother to go up on the roof in the first place. Hence the reason she blames Nikhil for Akash's death...


As for Laajo going to a hostel...I'm not for that because that would separate LaKhil...I would be okay with them leaving the house together or just Laajo attending school but not being sent away on her own...

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