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Posted: 14 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Anjalg

Dudettes...to each her own right? Ganga and I are not just bothered by Vasant or the accident because all that stuff is superficial...I have always championed Gulaal but since the janmashtmi episode...nahhh...not liking her. She can see through him at times and when it is convenient she will look right at him. Family comes first, good for you then you should have no problems letting him move on...like Ganga said, she is not a kid...she knows what she feels and she knows she is in love with him and that is where Vasant and the gang come in. Is Kesu's love not enough or powerful enough for her to acknowledge it? Why does she need a push...of any kind at all?? Does he have to be on his death bed for her to realize?

Like I said...to each her own😊



Ofcourse to each their own, Anjal😊

But I'm honestly wondering why so much anger TODAY at why she needs the push...we've known this since a week now...and we know the show is coming to an end...there's very less options anyways...so I personally wonder why we fixate on the WHY of the push at this point...everyone gets their push in different ways...Why did Kesar wait until the very LAST phera to get the 'push' so to speak to not go ahead with his wedding to Talli??


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



@bold: Very valid point👏...That's what it all basically comes down to.

And like you said, Kesar himself has asked her this many times but she has no answers...this is just the way she is. ...

And honestly to me, the fact that she couldn't go meet Kesar today DOES make him her priority...if he wasn't, she would have easily gone and met him...he is her priority in a sense without either of them realizing it...she just has a different way of showing it.


Reemz: He was her priority as a child so the moment he said : I love you Gulaal...she does not want to give him priority anymore?? Dushy said that to her yet she protected the secret and made him a priority in terms of making him a better person and turning his life around...?? She will love, cherish and respect everyone except Kesar...why is that again?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Anjalg

Dudettes...to each her own right? Ganga and I are not just bothered by Vasant or the accident because all that stuff is superficial...I have always championed Gulaal but since the janmashtmi episode...nahhh...not liking her. She can see through him at times and when it is convenient she will look right at him. Family comes first, good for you then you should have no problems letting him move on...like Ganga said, she is not a kid...she knows what she feels and she knows she is in love with him and that is where Vasant and the gang come in. Is Kesu's love not enough or powerful enough for her to acknowledge it? Why does she need a push...of any kind at all?? Does he have to be on his death bed for her to realize?

Like I said...to each her own😊


Ofcourse man! It's just a healthy debate that's all :)


Kesar's love is obviously SO powerful that it got through to a woman like Gulaal but it's that mental block which she has to surpass. Let's think about it...she took care of him when he was a kid, he was Vasant's brother, she monitored herself over the past 10 years to stay 'loyal' as Vasant's wife. Yet Kesar got past all those barriers!

This time it wasn't her leaving Kesar but Kesar leaving her, it makes a difference :)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



@bold: Very valid point👏...That's what it all basically comes down to.

And like you said, Kesar himself has asked her this many times but she has no answers...this is just the way she is. ...

And honestly to me, the fact that she couldn't go meet Kesar today DOES make him her priority...if he wasn't, she would have easily gone and met him...he is her priority in a sense without either of them realizing it...she just has a different way of showing it.


Yeh true. Gulaal ultimately returning to the house because of Kesar proves where her priority lies :)
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Posted: 14 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: nureat01



Ofcourse to each their own, Anjal😊

But I'm honestly wondering why so much anger TODAY at why she needs the push...we've known this since a week now...and we know the show is coming to an end...there's very less options anyways...so I personally wonder why we fixate on the WHY of the push at this point...everyone gets their push in different ways...Why did Kesar wait until the very LAST phera to get the 'push' so to speak to not go ahead with his wedding to Talli??



Nur...I am not angry!! The show ends in a day...Kesu had his push and he got the time (episode wise) to go from the dark side (when he was all pushy and aggressive with Gulaal) to the good side. Just two days back she accepted flowers from him, a day later she would not even ask about him and today she still won't accept it when he is leaving. One episode to make a stubborn woman like Gulaal realize what she feels for Kesar when we have been waiting for a couple of months? I don't like the way she is with Kesar is all...I don't like the fact that the CV's had to put the character through an accident for Gulaal to realize...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalg


Reemz: He was her priority as a child so the moment he said : I love you Gulaal...she does not want to give him priority anymore?? Dushy said that to her yet she protected the secret and made him a priority in terms of making him a better person and turning his life around...?? She will love, cherish and respect everyone except Kesar...why is that again?



She didn't really make Dushyant her priority. The family was her priority because like I said, she had monitored herself to be in the ambits of those 4 walls. She feels obliged towards everyone in the family like she has a sense of duty but with Kesar there is no such obligation. She KNOWS she can get away with murder when it comes to Kesar. It's that haq they have over each other and Kesar accepts this happily.


Ooo @Nur: Good point about Kesar and his realization at the last phera. Every love story has to have a dramatic high-point otherwise ending thora pheeka par jaata hai.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Anjal: Yaar kehne ko toh we can hope and dream for a lot of other things, a lot more fleshing out of this realization but I guess since we aren't getting that, within the time constraints toh kuch aisa hi hona tha...

Again, I'm not taking the previous two epis into consideration...so I'm not going to think about what she did in the pooja etc. scenes...Monday was on track and her reactions today were very much in sync with the way she is.

Kesar went through his turmoil in his own way and Gulaal is going through it in her own way...I guess we have to accept that difference will always be.

Honestly I'm not sure what you didn't like about her emotions towards Kesar today...there was so much pathos, poignancy...I can understand the previous two days put you off but the way she was today was so emotional I felt.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Anjali - if the priority he had for her as a child is what we're discussing - he could have it the moment she was NOT in love with him again. That priority was as a responsibility for Kesar - when he wasn't her equal. Today he is. She has come through stages and stages to finally let him be an equal. If we went back to THAT priority - it would be a shame.

Also - I'm not even going to try and justify what happened last two days - they were wrong. But that wasn't the debate here. We're talking of why this impetus is wrong here now! Kesar's love is ENOUGH to change Gulaal's heart. It has. So much, that the Gulaal who has always stood head high chin up on her decisions, can't bear to look Kesar in the eye, or deal with anything/anyone that questions her decision - an unprecedented, if you think of it. That's what Kesar's love has done!

The head needs a HEAD to fix it. Kesar is the heart here - he fixed her heart. Vasant will fix the head. In a way, it really makes sense. If Gulaal did not have this conscious subconscious permission seeking or okaying from Vasant now - I can imagine her in the middle of the mandap going ann banshee about dayum - how can I do these dayum pheras ALL over again! Ask yourself, can you not imagine that happening to Gulaal - whatever the extent of Kesar's love? That mental block in her head needs to be thrown off the highest cliff into the deepest ocean so it is shattered down to the atoms and can never never reassemble. Its not a matter of her heart. Its a matter of her head.

And you know - Kesar is her equal. If he attests what she's doing is right, to her, its like her own heart attesting it. Vasant attesting it almost becomes this greater person signing it off. Final call. I'm gald Kesar is NOT the greater person in her life. We have enough alpha males. And the one reason I never liked Vasant, is because he was always the greater thing in their bond...

BTW - about Gulaal sidelining Kesar ... I agree Reemz, she can do this, treat him JUST like herself, because they really are like that - ONE soul! Its an equal and opposite thing btw! Even Kesar has had his ridiculous phase, where he has treated Gulaal in a way, he could ONLY treat Gulaal, or himself. So yes. This is full circle - even like that.
Edited by JZephyr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#69
TBH realisations toh end mein hi hote hai which is why you wait for that high-point where it finally clicks in heroine's mind that she is in love with the hero. But of course this show is zara hatke because Gulaal very much knows that she is in love with Kesar but keeping in sync with her character, they have yet to remove that final mental block and peel that final layer.

Also, even if chota Kesar seemed like her first priority then...she did not have him on her mind 24/7 like she does now.

This looong discussion has made me very tired.!
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^ talk to me - I think I should call it night and not even try typing anymore on the phone of all things!

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