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without-fathom

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Posted: 14 years ago

So here's an angle I think we all missed - unless I've missed someone's comments about this on some thread...

What if the introduction of SF track was not just about playing a cupid between GK, but also to play savior in the impending showdown this week?

SF has been shown as the elder of the house - someone who can overrule the likes of MB and PB even. We all know her special affections for Gulaal - and for the pair of Gulaal and Kesar. In all our debates over the murder mystery pandemonium with Dushyant getting himself arrested and Gulaal leaving the house - we have missed the fact that SF as fact has it does not know about the DV situation. If Gulaal is asked to leave the house, obviously, even the DV matter itself will come to fore.

So unless SF already knew about the DV truth (as I'd personally thought likely all of last week, but am hoping against now) I personally think she can be the one to step forward in Gulaal's defense. Not to justify what she has done, but in being the elder to talk MB and PB out of their shock and disappointment, and explain to them, that packing off Gulaal is in fact a very bad idea for the future of the house. If anyone can explain to them, the design of Gulaal's always well meant intention despite her error of ways in implementing the same - it should be SF. And the kind of person she is shown to be - I expect her to be just as grieved upon learning the truth of the murder, but I also think she is capable of rising to greater sanity and foreseeing the mistake in packing off Gulaal from the house for a matter, that very frankly speaking is a closed chapter now. Because Vasant is gone; with Dushyant handing himself in, the prospect of sending Gulaal away not only takes away from the house a pillar like her - someone who has withstood all storms for the favor of this house, but also plays up with the future of their only current heir, Kesar, and any chances of future progeny for the entire house - Raman out, Dushyant out, Vasant out... who's left?! Kesar.

So yeh. Just a thought that struck, over the question of who will play instrumental in bringing GK back. I think, and suppose, that SF does have a greater role to play after all, than simply being cupid... in a way, even her baby talks make sense then. She's the only one among the elders who actually thinks that far into the future of the household... So she's probably the only one capable of looking beyond Gulaal's grave even if unintended betrayal, and still understanding both her honesty, and her role for the future of this house.

What say people?! I opened a new thread cause I wasn't sure the debate wont get missed in the old threads from Friday-Saturday. Do post in your thoughts about this possibility, or any variable version of it.

JZee

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EXOL

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Posted: 14 years ago

Oh yes well pointed out Jzee..

I think we all missed about the possible role of SF in the upcoming track..guess everyone is deeply saddened by all the floating articles in the weekend.

As you mentioned, now I feel SF will be the only person instrumental in bringing GK back together as MB and PB's thought process will definitely be clouded by the murder revelation. More than SF this week am looking forward to my JK's reaction.

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Sree

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Posted: 14 years ago

ya SF n JK track has to see. becos play bring GK together. i doubt she knows KT marriage but not DV it's stange. if she knows n came for union of GK she will support them.i think kesar n SF will be with gulaal.
if she doesn't know abt DV then she will come to knew abt it now n mostly support gulaal for good of the family very least may go against or be silent. have to see how much she holds in the house as it is said.now we come to know the imp of SF than just saying in words.
then how jk react. her n her family are always problematic to gulaal.
she lost almost life n living becos of thses people for sake of good of family.in real life these type of ppl never cahnge they just see waysn escape. have to see in serial wat they show abt jk n raman characters.
for happy ending they ve to show that they ve changed n all r united.
as kesar hinted he will stay for gulaal in tough times so here comes testing for his words. till now he didn't stand for her in real sense.
by his actions we come to knew abt his reliability.
major drama is going to start 😃

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soapbubble

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Posted: 14 years ago

yes, I think Saru Fui will have a major palliative effect on MB and PB after they have come to terms with Dushyant's and also Gulaal's betrayal.

Also I think there will be remorse from Kesar. His hot-headedness in outing Dushyant will be so cataclysmic - Dushyant, of course because he will be vilified in spite of half a lifetime of repentence - but there will also be a split along the family lines, that is, between this family and Giga kaka, Jamna Kaki, Sudha -
Kesar will understand in one instance WHY Gulaal thought it wise to store that dreadful poison in her throat intead of letting it corrode the family structure.

More urgently for Kesar the outcome will be that his precious Gulaal is placed in the dock. He has questioned her himself but surely he doesn't want to see her pilloried by the family for what she saw as her duty. It was a difficult decision, perhaps a presumptuous one, but she felt compelled to make it. There was no swaarth, nothing in it for her - it was just nobility.

Saru Fui will pour oil over troubled waters but I htink it will be Kesar who supports and protects Gulaal, convince MB to forgive her AND Dushyant. If Jamna Kaaki's own conscience smites her, she will reveal all about Raman's black kartoot. I htink it will be Kesar who takes back the complaint and brings Dushyant home.

Is there time yet to bring Durgesh to book? I'd like to see him suffer a bit. After all, he caused the accident, even if it was Dushyant who threw Vasant over the bridge.

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Anjalg

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Posted: 14 years ago

WOW!! I was thinking along the same lines last nite 😕

You know I mentioned JK and her reaction to the whole situation and that kinda went out the window with you and Reemz pointing out the obvious stuff! So, I was wondering who will play an instrumental role in making MB and PB realize the intentions behind Gulaal's actions?? No matter how much they love Gulaal, this revelation will be a shocker and I am sure this time around emotions will trump practical thinking...which is understandable. They have lost a gem of a son, murdered by none other than Dushyant...the person they have trusted and loved as their own son for so many years.

Dushy is probably the only practical person in that house but MB PB will obviously not listen to him, JK will be in her own shock, grieving mode plus she will hate Kesar for outing Dushy, Giga - won't be in a state to say anything, Sudha, Talli, Raman - lets not even go there, Kesar will be too dumbfounded by the consequences of his revelation. So, the only practical person left in the house is SF and she loves loves loves Gulaal unconditionally. Definitely feel that she will have a HUGE role to play in piecing everything together...that is if she stays long enough...

You know, I am sure MB will be really angry at Kesar as well. Think back to the scene where MB lectured Gulaal and Kesar about taking monumental decisions about making and breaking the DV and not even consulting him. The truth about Vasant's murder is a thousand times more serious than that...MB will be so angry that once again Kes and Gulaal hid all this from him...this will really shatter him!

We still have to wait to see when the truth will be revealed. Maybe, everyone will keep silent till the wedding is over but then we'll get to see a lot of undercurrents...Oh I am so glad its Monday!!

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Piu Chatterjee

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Posted: 14 years ago

I was also thinking the same thing.⭐️.Another mota cupid in the mota cupid trio..JK,POOBA,AND NOW SF😛

Jzee I really love your long post...I read these lines in hamlet...that brevity is the soul of wisdom..something something by polonius..shyad..see I am not good at this but This seems so untrue ..when it comes to your analysis..I mean Like I can read pages and pages if the content is interesting.which is always in your case...SO KEEP IT COMING...😳

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without-fathom

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: nneeiill
Oh yes well pointed out Jzee..

I think we all missed about the possible role of SF in the upcoming track..guess everyone is deeply saddened by all the floating articles in the weekend.

As you mentioned, now I feel SF will be the only person instrumental in bringing GK back together as MB and PB's thought process will definitely be clouded by the murder revelation. More than SF this week am looking forward to my JK's reaction.

Oh sure, JK's reaction, and consequent choice making between her sons is something we all are eagerly awaiting... this is perhaps going to be her greatest moment of test!

Originally posted by: uniquebie
ya SF n JK track has to see. becos play bring GK together. i doubt she knows KT marriage but not DV it's stange. if she knows n came for union of GK she will support them.i think kesar n SF will be with gulaal.
if she doesn't know abt DV then she will come to knew abt it now n mostly support gulaal for good of the family very least may go against or be silent. have to see how much she holds in the house as it is said.now we come to know the imp of SF than just saying in words.
then how jk react. her n her family are always problematic to gulaal.
she lost almost life n living becos of thses people for sake of good of family.in real life these type of ppl never cahnge they just see waysn escape. have to see in serial wat they show abt jk n raman characters.
for happy ending they ve to show that they ve changed n all r united.
as kesar hinted he will stay for gulaal in tough times so here comes testing for his words. till now he didn't stand for her in real sense.
by his actions we come to knew abt his reliability.
major drama is going to start 😃

I agree with the part in bold as a generic statement - its not that there are not exceptions to the rule, but mostly, I don't think a person can change the way they inherently are... With the portrayal of Dushyant's character however this show has projected one extreme case of exception where reform can take place - so completely and entirely, and yet so credibly... Like you say, I doubt JK and Raman can change much, and almost certainly never to the extent Dushyant changed anyway ... but I suppose we can expect some kind of remorse from JK at least.

Personally I don't think 'happy endings' are about every single character becoming 'saintly'. Realistically, that is not a possible scenario imo. And because this show has been grounded to reality all through, I doubt they will go into the melodrama of drastic person reforms at this point... It's going to be interesting watching them handle the challenge of showing and justifying JK hereon, especially!

I hope someone (and maybe that will be SF too) will tell JK to her face once in her life, that the 'misery' in her sons lives, and the error of their ways is something she is responsible for in the long run!

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soapbubble

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: JZephyr

Oh sure, JK's reaction, and consequent choice making between her sons is something we all are eagerly awaiting... this is perhaps going to be her greatest moment of test!

I agree with the part in bold as a generic statement - its not that there are not exceptions to the rule, but mostly, I don't think a person can change the way they inherently are... With the portrayal of Dushyant's character however this show has projected one extreme case of exception where reform can take place - so completely and entirely, and yet so credibly... Like you say, I doubt JK and Raman can change much, and almost certainly never to the extent Dushyant changed anyway ... but I suppose we can expect some kind of remorse from JK at least.

Personally I don't think 'happy endings' are about every single character becoming 'saintly'. Realistically, that is not a possible scenario imo. And because this show has been grounded to reality all through, I doubt they will go into the melodrama of drastic person reforms at this point... It's going to be interesting watching them handle the challenge of showing and justifying JK hereon, especially!

I hope someone (and maybe that will be SF too) will tell JK to her face once in her life, that the 'misery' in her sons lives, and the error of their ways is something she is responsible for in the long run!

Oh JK may not become a good person, but she needs to see that she has forced Dushyant to sacrifice his values, his ethics for a man who is a loser, and a perennial bad apple at that. She wails about having lost one son to prison but she needs to understand that her actions have contributed to having her second (and more worthy) son hauled off to prison thanks to the pressure SHE applied. [I'm surprised Dush succembed actually - seems like a writer pulling strings rather than the character behaving naturally - bit lame IMO]

Of course, JK can't be held responsible for the murder but hopefully her lifelong cribs about having received nothing from 'unka parivar' will cease or at least falter in the light of the great damage HER son has dealt the 'other family'.

What a tragedy for MB and PB! Vasant's death is STILL a raw wound - such a son taken away in the prime of his life... but to know that he was murdered, and by a brother! And one who is now in their midst, receiving love, responsibility, trust in his stead! 😲😲 How it must seem to them... what a dagger through the heart! I wish the other actor was there to play Pan ba - I miss her - what a striking face she had!

Bubble

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without-fathom

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: soapbubble
yes, I think Saru Fui will have a major palliative effect on MB and PB after they have come to terms with Dushyant's and also Gulaal's betrayal.

Also I think there will be remorse from Kesar. His hot-headedness in outing Dushyant will be so cataclysmic - Dushyant, of course because he will be vilified in spite of half a lifetime of repentence - but there will also be a split along the family lines, that is, between this family and Giga kaka, Jamna Kaki, Sudha -
Kesar will understand in one instance WHY Gulaal thought it wise to store that dreadful poison in her throat intead of letting it corrode the family structure.

More urgently for Kesar the outcome will be that his precious Gulaal is placed in the dock. He has questioned her himself but surely he doesn't want to see her pilloried by the family for what she saw as her duty. It was a difficult decision, perhaps a presumptuous one, but she felt compelled to make it. There was no swaarth, nothing in it for her - it was just nobility.

Saru Fui will pour oil over troubled waters but I htink it will be Kesar who supports and protects Gulaal, convince MB to forgive her AND Dushyant. If Jamna Kaaki's own conscience smites her, she will reveal all about Raman's black kartoot. I htink it will be Kesar who takes back the complaint and brings Dushyant home.

Is there time yet to bring Durgesh to book? I'd like to see him suffer a bit. After all, he caused the accident, even if it was Dushyant who threw Vasant over the bridge.

Bubble

Hey Bubble - firstly, your reply is very well expressed! 👏 Especially that very first part in bold about Kesar finally realizing why Gulaal was so pressed to compromise with a justice she would have died to get for her dead husband! I truly hope it happens like that - Kesar realizing of his own accord by the fallout of his temper, the reason that Gulaal had to hold back for a decade! In that one sweeping instance also, he will be bound to understand in the hardest way, what Gulaal had warned him about, days ago, in terms of anger management... something he had agreed to do for her happiness, but in lesser understanding of repercussions than he could now have a chance to perceive.

As for Gulaal's 'nobility' in protecting Dushyant all these years - I don't blame anyone in the family to not see through her act or not understand the goodness of her intention... because fact is, betrayal can be a strong and overpowering emotion - not just for a 10 year old boy like Kesar to change the course of his life, but even for grown up matures like MB and PB - when the matter is dealing with their beloved son's murder! SF does seem like the only sane head who could both, see beyond the betrayal to foresee the long term future, as well as at least comprehend Gulaal's objective even if not empathize with her decision to save Dushyant; while also being in a position to influence and silence and guide even the likes of MB. Like I said above, I also hope she will actually take the chance to deliver one reality check to JK as well - hit the iron while its hot and tell her that she alone is responsible for the failing fate of her sons.

As for Kesar bringing Dushyant back - I doubt it. If articles are to be believed and Dushyant's character is coming to an end, I think turning himself in is the end. It's fair enough too - we've seen Dushyant at his evil worst, then we've seen his struggle to evolve and reform - and finally we've also seen the very revised version of Dushyant - the man who plays pivotal role in bringing GK together, when he's bad, and when he's good. Technicaly he has served both the purpose of his character, and the objective of illustrating how a human in a single life can be changed by circumstances to such drastic extent - yet credibly enough! Dushyant's character has to be one of the best carved in this show - in fact but for my bias for GK themselves, I might as well place him next to the top for the complexity and layers and reality of his character. 👏 He deserves a real end like serving the sentence long due, rather than coming back to the house somewhat unceremoniously and living through another decade of winning back his position and trust and what not! While Gulaal still has all the ground and reason to get back her place in the house - given the purity of her intention no matter what else - Dushyant's evil past has to backfire. More than the penance of losing his 'love' or the guilt of killing his brother, or even living the life of a saint for ten years - the latter most of which having actually won him unadulterated respect and love from everyone!

Finally over the matter of Durgesh, I said it in my other post too - that I wonder if Kesar will be the one to reveal 'all of the truth'. If the Gulaal front will not in fact be brought to fore by Durgesh even yet? Not sure what lies for us on that front, but like you, yes, I would very much like the Durgesh end to be better resolved than just left where it is right now - dormant! He has been instrumental in the evil twist of fate - and don't know if they can get him punished or will or will not, but I hope it comes to fore that Dushyant is not all there is to the chapter! At least to clarify the fact that it was not rivalry with Vasant as a brother or a successor that made Dushyant commit his sin, but simply the lust of a woman - not that the act of murder mellows in respect - but at least the clarity of motive should be made... I think it makes a difference and goes on to say much about how and why Dushyant truly has reformed, after! If the motive had been Vasant's murder, and not getting Gulaal for himself - then Dushyant would have been another Raman.

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Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

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I did have a inkiling that it could only be SF being the one to JUST 'get' it and see all points and why Gulaal did what she did...

I do see SF being the one to make sense of this, see somehow Gulaal's pov in all this - esp if SF gives her a chance to explain all to her, and see her reasons and why and also talk MB and PB as well, about the situation and lets see it from this angle, or this angle etc but then they always made a point to say that SF loved and adored Vasant the most, and couldnt handle him going - so who knows but her love for Gulaal is great as well, with much respect attached to it

At this moment i can only see Kesar and probably SF in Gulaal's corner from the house (and coz i dont think D will even have a leg to stand on to even say anything and no one will listen to him as well), and also Kesar talking to SF about it, and how he knew and so on

And with that i hope in a way or not the truth about why Gulaal even did a DV in the first place has to come out... her reasons, and why even the DV was mentioned in the first place (which i am pretty sure JK was the cause of it )

Is Durgesh even needed now, i mean the secret is out - and i kinda thought he would be the one telling all, but no - but on the whole he is the one who cause the accident in the first place, even if D was the one who finished Vasant off at the end

I think on the whole after everything - Gulaal's plight and Gulaal's pain has to be highlighted in how hard it was for her to do what she did (and how she lived with it) and who for, and for this family... this family even wouldnt be standing or all together today if not for Gulaal and deep down if they think about it when the get over their shock and grief - Vasant would of wanted and done the same thing in a way

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