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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalg



You know, I am sure MB will be really angry at Kesar as well. Think back to the scene where MB lectured Gulaal and Kesar about taking monumental decisions about making and breaking the DV and not even consulting him. The truth about Vasant's murder is a thousand times more serious than that...MB will be so angry that once again Kes and Gulaal hid all this from him...this will really shatter him!


We still have to wait to see when the truth will be revealed. Maybe, everyone will keep silent till the wedding is over but then we'll get to see a lot of undercurrents...Oh I am so glad its Monday!!


That's true. While Gulaal had only selflessness and family unity at the bottom of her intention, her nature of taking reigns of problems in her hands, and that alone, has rarely been a clean act. From decisions like the DV, to keeping this secret of the Dushyant's murder role... somewhere I think she has underestimated the sensibility of an elder like MB, and been rather unfair to him in that regard. There is a period of shock - but then there is a period of recovery, and although now when the things will be revealed in this unfavorable manner, much will backfire, if Gulal had actually taken the initiative a decade ago to take only MB into confidence if no one else and told him the truth - he may have yet, like her, swallowed the truth and kept the family intact. But Gulaal being Gulaal has always found herself singularly responsible in the face of any sacrifice or selflessness needed - and like everything else, the extreme of her 'doing for others' is serving more harm than good in the long run. It's what Kesar told her once in the anger of the moment about learning her lesson to not make decisions for everyone else's life... I think this will be the biggest eye opener for Gulaal in that respect - hopefully!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

I was also thinking the same thing.⭐️.Another mota cupid in the mota cupid trio..JK,POOBA,AND NOW SF😛

Jzee I really love your long post...I read these lines in hamlet...that brevity is the soul of wisdom..something something by polonius..shyad..see I am not good at this but This seems so untrue ..when it comes to your analysis..I mean Like I can read pages and pages if the content is interesting.which is always in your case...SO KEEP IT COMING...😳


Piu! Brevity is a genius play - I'm a long way to go... so yes, the Bard says it right!

As for the triumvirate of mota cupids 😆 they constitute a team of their own, don't they?! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lennie

I do see SF being the one to make sense of this, see somehow Gulaal's pov in all this - esp if SF gives her a chance to explain all to her, and see her reasons and why and also talk MB and PB as well, about the situation and lets see it from this angle, or this angle etc but then they always made a point to say that SF loved and adored Vasant the most, and couldnt handle him going - so who knows but her love for Gulaal is great as well, with much respect attached to it
Is Durgesh even needed now, i mean the secret is out - and i kinda thought he would be the one telling all, but no - but on the whole he is the one who cause the accident in the first place, even if D was the one who finished Vasant off at the end
I think on the whole after everything - Gulaal's plight and Gulaal's pain has to be highlighted in how hard it was for her to do what she did (and how she lived with it) and who for, and for this family... this family even wouldnt be standing or all together today if not for Gulaal and deep down if they think about it when the get over their shock and grief - Vasant would of wanted and done the same thing in a way


Hola Lenn, long time, I don't see you around anymore ?! 😒

Anyway - tbh while I see SF bveing the person to look at long term future and do the explaining for MB and PB - I don't equate her 'understanding' of the gravity of the matter to empathizing with Gulaal. Her intentions were noble, and nobody can deny her that - even if they are upset with her at this point they will see it in time. But noble intentions are no guarantee of right actions. A fact that is testified by Gulaal's character. The extreme of her goodness or selflessness, or intention of not causing anyone pain, other than herself, is in fact going to lead to the most painful chapter in the history of this house - perhaps even more than the real loss of their son himself! This sense of betrayal will raise the loss quotient many times over, and no one but Gulaal's noble decision can be to blame! Like I said to Anjali - I personally think Gulaal not having taken MB into confidence a decade ago was her greatest error... the fact that she assumes herself in position for all the pain bearing is a naturally wrong concept. And even though she has lived with great secret pain for so long, keeping a secret like that buried within - the kind of pain it will cause esp MB and PB now, the parents of Vasant, and the betrayed guardians of Dushyant and Gulaal - will be just as immeasurable. Somehow, she lived with the idea that she could bury the hatchet and live her life like that forever - a secret, that she should not have forgotten, was known to others beyond Dushyant and herself- and those others were pure evil. Put aside the fact that Kesar has spiled the beans - why and how did she assume Durgesh never would take his bid?! If in not telling directly, then in finding a way to bring back the skeletons?! He was doing that in secretly promoting Kesar's search when he got back after 10 years... and although things have unfolded in a different way, there is no way Gulaal lived with the idea that nothing would ever bring out the truth! If she had tried to measure the extent of consequences then, she might have actually considered talking to MB long ago. TBH, I even think she got her alarm alert when she learned that Kesar knew the truth. In a way, that should have served as a sign for her - that one day, like Kesar, everyone would know, and everyone would inevitably raise fingers, because she has hidden from them a truth they deserved to know... that her decision, even if proven noble, was greatly presumptuous of mass good! When she had come back and almost been on the verge of telling MB the truth, before Kesar intervened and mentioned his decision to marry Talli - Gulaal should not just have buried the matter all over again...

Again, not taking away Gulaal's well meant intention - just saying she ignored too many signs of why her decision could backfire much worse one day - as it now will. And the worst part is not that she's being shown the door, the worst part is the permanence of rift that is now likely to occur in that house between the two families, will be worse than it could ever have been before, perhaps!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr


Piu! Brevity is a genius play - I'm a long way to go... so yes, the Bard says it right!

As for the triumvirate of mota cupids😆they constitute a team of their own, don't they?!😆

Jzee..IMO this angle of gulaal keeping away such a secret away from the family was a bit too much for me to digest..not that we have not seen such cases where crimes in family are hided...but in that case also family as a group decides what has to be done...What is particularly interesting is that though she sacrificed so much in life yet she could not handle everything alone..and most of her plans were ruined...like...Kesar -talli marriage and now this...I absolutely adore the striking contrast in GULAAL AND kESAR'S CHARACTERIZATION...they are diammetrically opposite people..when it comes to their perception to a particualar situation...May be yes SF being the elder one in the family and as we see that she has such an important role in MB AND GIKAKA life..I am definitely sure that she might support Gulaal..and play a pivotal role in keeping her back in the house...And kesar will actually stand by her side...next step would be interesting coz till now We have seen Gulaal as an extremely independent character..who lives life with utmost devotion to her family..It is also noteworthy that even after Her marriage to Vasant..she never depended on him to make any choices...I would love to see her looking for Kesar's support and maybe for the first time in her life she accepts this fact that every human being needs support and care...Marriage is a sacred bonding that demands lot of devotion from both sides...even the sacred vows of marriage mention that both ppl will support each other...So irrespective of the fact..that women should have independence and make their own choices..but yes..even for making those choices..one needs a strong support system...Whether or not she leaves the house...THE CHANGE IN KG DYNAMICS WOULD BE INTERESTING TO WATCH

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Jzee..IMO this angle of gulaal keeping away such a secret away from the family was a bit too much for me to digest..not that we have not seen such cases where crimes in family are hided...but in that case also family as a group decides what has to be done...What is particularly interesting is that though she sacrificed so much in life yet she could not handle everything alone..and most of her plans were ruined...like...Kesar -talli marriage and now this...I absolutely adore the striking contrast in GULAAL AND kESAR'S CHARACTERIZATION...they are diammetrically opposite people..when it comes to their perception to a particualar situation...May be yes SF being the elder one in the family and as we see that she has such an important role in MB AND GIKAKA life..I am definitely sure that she might support Gulaal..and play a pivotal role in keeping her back in the house...And kesar will actually stand by her side...next step would be interesting coz till now We have seen Gulaal as an extremely independent character..who lives life with utmost devotion to her family..It is also noteworthy that even after Her marriage to Vasant..she never depended on him to make any choices...I would love to see her looking for Kesar's support and maybe for the first time in her life she accepts this fact that every human being needs support and care...Marriage is a sacred bonding that demands lot of devotion from both sides...even the sacred vows of marriage mention that both ppl will support each other...So irrespective of the fact..that women should have independence and make their own choices..but yes..even for making those choices..one needs a strong support system...Whether or not she leaves the house...THE CHANGE IN KG DYNAMICS WOULD BE INTERESTING TO WATCH

Piu, that is beautifully written. Perfect. I love it how you worded it. Dependance even while being independant. There lies a thin line between what we term as independance and dependance in terms of a marriage. Lot of misunderstandings and ego issues arise because the people involved do lack this understanding.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

It is also noteworthy that even after Her marriage to Vasant..she never depended on him to make any choices...I would love to see her looking for Kesar's support and maybe for the first time in her life she accepts this fact that every human being needs support and care...Marriage is a sacred bonding that demands lot of devotion from both sides...even the sacred vows of marriage mention that both ppl will support each other...So irrespective of the fact..that women should have independence and make their own choices..but yes..even for making those choices..one needs a strong support system...


Well said Piu! Gulaal needs a big lesson in understanding that a family in being a family is not about singular one man army roles, but in functioning as a unit. Where you don't depend on each other because you're weak and can't deal with things alone - but you depend on that other, because together you make a team that is stringer that strong. People in a unit compliment each other in a way such that where one falls short, the other makes up. So like Kesar needs Gulaal to keep his anger in check, to remind him to not lose his maturity at the first string of provocation, Gulaal needs Kesar to sometimes see the plainest of facts that have been staring at her but she has conveniently been blind to. And its not just about GK, but the family as a whole... she needs to understand that Vasant;s dream was not to become that single pillar which holds up the house all by itself, his dream was to see everything joint as a unit, in the real sense, where everyone was allowed to and appreciated for contributing their share to evolution. In a way, byt taking all the gore upon herself, although she has kept the people of the house together, she has lost her chance to bind them as a unit! The fact that Dushyant and she could operate as a team at any time, was because they were inevitably sharing the burden of this secret. When Kesar came int picture, he became her team mate in time, because eventually she allowed him to share the 'responsibilities'... and until she allows everyone in the house to chip in their bit like that - she's not really binding them, but only putting them together!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: MeySimi

Yes Ganga it is very true.😊..I simply do not understand the myth that if you depend on your spouse..it makes you weak.🤢..It makes you more strong providing the much needed boost to face the vageries of adverse circumstances.😳..Its always a a team work..I really feel disgusted at many fictions when they make a mockery of marriage in terms of stupid misunderstandings..the bond between a husband and wife is the most sacred bond which involves lot of mutual understanding...Though Gulaal actually was devoted to Vasant..loved him..worshipped him..still did not depend on him much...There is nothing wrong to be dependant in a relationship...It has to be mutual...that is the blessing of marriage...😃

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Agreed JZee,
Gulaal has managed to keep everyone under one roof. Physically they remain together but far away from each other in their hearts. Vasant wanted "ek desh, ek gaon, ek parivaar". His vision was that his Talsagra should shine as an example for unity even in this "kalyug".
She has nurtured his dream. her intentions are good. But her mode of implementation is wrong. What is the need of family members under one roof when their hearts don't belong together.
The family deserved the time needed for the healing process. She should have given time, some time. She knew the secret and took her time to come to be civil with Dushyant. The family, especially Vasant's parents deserved that time too.
On a lighter note, Motaba always appears as if he is counting the last minutes of his life, imagine what this devastating truth could do to him.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr


Well said Piu! Gulaal needs a big lesson in understanding that a family in being a family is not about singular one man army roles, but in functioning as a unit.
So like Kesar needs Gulaal to keep his anger in check, to remind him to not lose his maturity at the first string of provocation, Gulaal needs Kesar to sometimes see the plainest of facts that have been staring at her but she has conveniently been blind to. And its not just about GK, but the family as a whole... she needs to understand that Vasant;s dream was not to become that single pillar which holds up the house all by itself, his dream was to see everything joint as a unit, in the real sense, where everyone was allowed to and appreciated for contributing their share to evolution.

True Jzee I also feel that this one man army is a very dumb concept..🤢.It has to be team work where everyone contributes their part.⭐️...She's not a superwoman😆..remember even spiderman had his aunt and his lovely lady love as his support system..though not physically..but emotionally😆

.And meanwhile we should never forget that Vasant's dream was

Ek gaon..ek parivaar😳

and not😃

Ek gulaal supporting hazaar...😡

oops..😛.see Saying something sensible is extremely difficult for me..whenever time comes I am back to make a fool of myself😲

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Ek gaon..ek parivaar😳

and not😃

Ek gulaal supporting hazaar...😡


🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣Dame!!! This needs to go into the real show script! Someone (read: Apna Kesu, aur kaun?!) needs to say this exact sher to Gulaal and watch her expression 🤣

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