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Posted: 14 years ago
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Talli's sagai is on its way.. so far so good. Even the bad things (Raman's plan) is going good.
I was watching and wondering when they shot the scene without Gulaal and later shot her separately, one instance was the day before sagai with 5 suhagans. The body double chunari had a different border and completely covered her head whereas Gulaal's chunari border was different and her head was not fully covered. I wonder if they cannot cater for such continuity details, how can they maintain continuity in their dialogs and storyline. Gulaal kabhi pal mein tola aur kabhi pal mein maasha..We as viewers try and fill the gap with our imagination. BTW if now you run thru the earlier episodes you can now see how things are changing and contradicting with earlier characterization, but you can still say 'well times are a changing!!!'

Kesar Dhol scene and memories..
As far as I recall, Vasant and Gulaal interaction period was around a month or two?? His going to her village, her coming to Talsagra and then their marriage and Vasant's death immediately after the marriage.
Gulaal got her 10 year old flashback. Does anyone recall Gulaal having a flashback how much she loved Kesar or Kesar having a FB about Gulaal??

2-3 months of interaction and 10 years passing by, even memories fade away. But she has her scenes ready for the FB. Gulaal behavior can be termed as abnormal. Although the entire show she's been praised that she has been living for other's and does not care about her own life or future. But unfortunately its opposite of that. She decides what she thinks is right and does notcare for others. When it comes to the person whom she loved for more than the period she loved Vasant, she simply disregards everyone's feelings. She has a habit of dealing everything at her own. She does not care whether it is right or wrong, morally correct or incorrect, jhoot or succh. She labels that as right (or justifies in her own way) and does it as if thats the right thing to do. Why has SD made her to think that she should not break her heart and continue with posing this husband and wife. She never cared that much for MotaBha feeling when he said tere baghair ye ghar khali ho jayega'. We can say that when she is convinced... then she is right!!!. I don't want to give all the past examples of her decision making. There is a lot of conflict in her personality, what she says and does and why!!!. I even recall that when Kesar saves her from drowning and he is angry at her.. she tells Talli to tell him, no matter what is the reason for his anger, even if everything is true, iss ke liye mera pyaar kam nahin hoga... Now what happened to that claim of her.

Gulaal and Kesar
In my opinion there is not much left in this track. Their interaction is left to 1-2 minutes of dialogs or forced 'fight' scenes in every episode and if we have a Maha Episode only about Kesar and Gulaal. They would have nothing to show in the second half i.e. if they don't have songs or dance.
Thats why they are now relying on other tracks to reach their end date with a decent viewer ship.

Still when I really want to enjoy the show I watch from the beginning till the leap. You find yourself being throughly entertained by the engrossing fast-paced storyline and real high-class acting of the actors. Its so amazing. You don't have to interpret anything, you straight away feel it as and thats the beauty of Gulaal pre-leap.

...and now???





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Posted: 14 years ago
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So did you mean that they are just dragging the show to reach its end in someway or the other without a solid story?


"BTW if now you run thru the earlier episodes you can now see how things are changing and contradicting with earlier characterization, but you can still say 'well times are a changing!!!'"


Would you plz explain?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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he he he we are in bad mood naa...gullu gullu nahi rahi kesu kesu nahi raha...cv ab hum tera aitbaar naa rahaa...
ya exactly the potential passionate lovestory is somewhat ruined by the mindblowing creative heads of star plus...they are more interested to show saas bahu dahej compromise marriage rather showing the tension of a deeyarvattu...oh boy look what they have done to my fav novel "ek chaddar maili si...trust to sp they can even turn lamhe...wuthering heights...anna karenina into a uninteresting drama ...shocking kesar was once passionate lover then obsessed lover then mad lover then kiddo and now he is cool happy go lucky guy ...forgetting he has loved someone so deeply that he wrote her name in the paper sketch her in the wall run after her beg her plead her stand outside her window in bare foot...and now that obsession and passion disappeared its strange how can a passionate and obssessed lover like him behave normally...that something that irked me...yup u and me were here to see the uniqueness of the strange alliance but now its lost in kunnu shayyari, talli batiissi, ramu muchi, Jk planning and gullu and kesu's senseless fightining...
p.s. i m frustrated with the storyline so pouring out my frustration here...plz no chappal and i m still demon not a angle
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

he he he we are in bad mood naa...gullu gullu nahi rahi kesu kesu nahi raha...cv ab hum tera aitbaar naa rahaa...

ya exactly the potential passionate lovestory is somewhat ruined by the mindblowing creative heads of star plus...they are more interested to show saas bahu dahej compromise marriage rather showing the tension of a deeyarvattu...oh boy look what they have done tomy fav novel "ek chaddar maili si...trust to sp they can even turn lamhe...wuthering heights...anna karenina into a uninteresting drama ...shocking kesar wasonce passionate loverthen obsessed loverthen mad lover then kiddo and nowhe iscoolhappy go lucky guy...forgetting he has loved someone so deeply that he wrote her name in the paper sketch her in the wall run after her beg her plead her stand outside her window in bare foot...and now that obsession and passion disappeared its strange how can a passionate and obssessed lover like him behave normally...that something that irked me...yupu andme were here to see the uniquenessof the strange alliance but now its lost in kunnu shayyari, tallibatiissi, ramu muchi, Jk planning and gullu and kesu'ssenseless fightining...
p.s.i m frustrated with the storylinesopouring out my frustration here...plz no chappal and im still demon not a angle

Arti I so totally and absolutely agree ith you..I 've lost interest and it is confusing how can obsession be so miraculously vanished.😳😲..Yaaar FF update kar na.😛.ha ha I have become your stalker😆love you sooo much😳

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Please don't mind in me saying this but do you just expect Kesar to be in his angry mode all the time just so he can show his obsession towards Gulaal? It would be totally out of context if he acted that way now. Yesterday we knew that Manasi wasn't shooting with everyone so how does Kesar give Gulaal attention?

In the past few episodes, we have seen Kesar turn up everywhere Gulaal is. Whether it's cleaning a room, decorating the hall or choosing bangles where all the LADIES were sitting...Kesar always turns up! Who said he isn't obsessed with her even now? He comes to the kitchen just in time to save Gulaal's finger from being cut. He knows what's going through her mind. Passion comes in different forms and even now he is so considerate towards her feelings. Sitting on a chair so she can sleep properly is passion to me, making every effort to make HER feel comfortable is obsession.

Just because we find that aggressive nature in Kesar attractive does not mean the writers just put it in for no reason! Why should he act out of line anyway when Gulaal and him are getting on fine?

The only problem is the lack of GK scenes in the past 2 episodes.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: alanta

So did you mean that they are just dragging the show to reach its end in someway or the other without a solid story?

I have mentioned it in my earlier posts, if the objective of the show is to unite Gulaal-Kesar then the show will come to an end after they unite. Showing 1-2 minutes interaction that too in repetitive mode, assuring her in every second shot what all Kesar is doing for Gulaal khushi and they have put a love-fight-argument scenes between a young man in his twenties and a middle age woman as if she is just a teenager. (She touches his hands and the viewers get their goosebumps). So what is the solid story left????? Other tracks have been introduced to fill in the time. Well if you are enjoying it, then thats fine with me, I expect much more than this. BTW, its a 3 month period for them to revisit their decision and now only one month has passed. Most of us did not know that Kesar did not sleep in the room till SD found out for us. Run through the episodes from last deeyar-vaatoo instance till today, what interaction they have had in one month.. and then there are still 2 months to go.

"BTW if now you run thru the earlier episodes you can now see how things are changing and contradicting with earlier characterization, but you can still say 'well times are a changing!!!'"


Would you plz explain?
For this you have to watch the show from the beginning. Gulaal-Kesar relationship especially and deduce for yourself. I wish someone would just put all the Gulaal-Kesar scenes together from the first interaction till preleap. Then write out the relationship which has been portrayed. It would set the things straight. One scene worth watching is when after she chooses Kesar over Dushy for deeyar-vatoo and lots of dialog, Kesar tells gulaal 'mujhay dhoop lag rahi hai' and she covers his head with her paloo.. protecting him from the sun and walks into the house. See for yourself, how she treats him and takes care of him and compare it with how its being portrayed today.

I found this scene in a compiled version, watch it from 4:30 to 6:30

the pre-leap Gulaal (before Talli and Kesar grew up) is a great show.



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

he he he we are in bad mood naa...gullu gullu nahi rahi kesu kesu nahi raha...cv ab hum tera aitbaar naa rahaa...

ya exactly the potential passionate lovestory is somewhat ruined by the mindblowing creative heads of star plus...they are more interested to show saas bahu dahej compromise marriage rather showing the tension of a deeyarvattu...oh boy look what they have done to my fav novel "ek chaddar maili si...trust to sp they can even turn lamhe...wuthering heights...anna karenina into a uninteresting drama ...shocking kesar was once passionate lover then obsessed lover then mad lover then kiddo and now he is cool happy go lucky guy ...forgetting he has loved someone so deeply that he wrote her name in the paper sketch her in the wall run after her beg her plead her stand outside her window in bare foot...and now that obsession and passion disappeared its strange how can a passionate and obssessed lover like him behave normally...that something that irked me...yup u and me were here to see the uniqueness of the strange alliance but now its lost in kunnu shayyari, talli batiissi, ramu muchi, Jk planning and gullu and kesu's senseless fightining...
p.s. i m frustrated with the storyline so pouring out my frustration here...plz no chappal and i m still demon not a angle

when I finished writing this post and in the end you see ..and now??? I deleted the line..it was actually ..and now Arty its your turn... 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I was not a regular viewer, but have seen almost all the pre leap episodes. Yes she was protective towards him, and as Gulaal has cleared to her mom, he has grown up and he can take care of himself and also others. But do you mean that you are against the love angle brought between the two? Plz do reply for both. Because seriously I want to know how a woman in 30 is called middle-aged, while a man in 30 is often called a youngster...I didnt get the logic

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree that there has been a lack of GulKes scenes and we want to see the two of them together but you can't compare the way Gulaal was with a 12 year old child with the way Gulaal is with a 22 year old boy who had professed his love for her!!

She was protective towards young Kesuda because at that time he needed the care and protection what with Raman, Dushy, JK all out to get him after Vasant's death. The show cannot go on in the same way as it had during the pre leap episodes. You also have to understand that when Kesar returned after the leap, Gulaal was extremely caring and protective towards him despite his rude behavior towards her...her attitude changed only when he turned all obsessive and possessive about her which is understandable considering she had never considered that he could ever fall in love with her!

I know we are getting major doses of Raman but I don't think the story is losing its focus...even before the leap there were so many tangled webs - Durgesh, Dushyant's obsession, JK, Raman, Sudha, Vasant's murder, Reva and her fiancee etc etc...in fact at that point THERE WAS NO LOVE STORY AT ALL (unless you consider what Dushyant felt for Gulaal to be love). Post leap, we have the same tangled webs minus a few BUT we are seeing little progressions in terms of Gulaal and Kesar!

Just my thoughts...no intent to offend anyone😊 I think all of us are just jumping on the 'Show is about to end bandwagon' but there is no real evidence. Hence all the disappointments...
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Originally posted by: Anjalg

I agree that there has been a lack of GulKes scenes and we want to see the two of them together but you can't compare the way Gulaal was with a 12 year old child with the way Gulaal is with a 22 year old boy who had professed his love for her!!

She was protective towards young Kesuda because at that time he needed the care and protection what with Raman, Dushy, JK all out to get him after Vasant's death. The show cannot go on in the same way as it had during the pre leap episodes. You also have to understand that when Kesar returned after the leap, Gulaal was extremely caring and protective towards him despite his rude behavior towards her...her attitude changed only when he turned all obsessive and possessive about her which is understandable considering she had never considered that he could ever fall in love with her!

Just this one, why should she be so hurt to find out this. The way she slapped him and cried in disbelief. She had a serious turmoil (close to nervous breakdown) and reacted so badly, never listened to anyone, went to panchayaat and walked out of the house and keeps saying ye nahin ho sakta. mein Kesar ki patni nahin ban sakti' (Paap, Bhavna..) Now do you think she should accept him as her lover (or respond to his love) in 3 months time and fall into his arms??? So it is not easy to undo the way CVs have taken this relationship to create drama. CVs will keep this track light to unwind, if they could ever do it rationally.
PS: Last episode of RBO, Khanak, slim and smart, faints and drops on the floor and few seconds later Khanak and Shaan are holding their twins. Shows can end like this too.

I know we are getting major doses of Raman but I don't think the story is losing its focus...even before the leap there were so many tangled webs - Durgesh, Dushyant's obsession, JK, Raman, Sudha, Vasant's murder, Reva and her fiancee etc etc...in fact at that point THERE WAS NO LOVE STORY AT ALL (unless you consider what Dushyant felt for Gulaal to be love). Post leap, we have the same tangled webs minus a few BUT we are seeing little progressions in terms of Gulaal and Kesar!

Just my thoughts...no intent to offend anyone😊 I think all of us are just jumping on the 'Show is about to end bandwagon' but there is no real evidence. Hence all the disappointments...
This is Gulaal's effect 'ye nahin ho sakta, ya ye show bandh nahin hoga' 😃
Aap ke munh mein ghee-shakar..

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