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Laila Banu

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: Gman
I quite agree with all your view points but she has some faults too that can not be ignored.

Firstly, she dreamt the dream of others but not of her own.

Seconduy, She knew that Kesar did not reciprocate her feelings yet she hanged around him getting hurt on her own choice.

Thirdly, She knew that Kesar was married to Gulaal, yet still harbour the dream to getting married with him. Lets say Kesar has brought girlfriend from city, how she would react then. That is possibility she must think. How can she think that he will be come single and she will snatch him at first chance?

Its just Gulsar were destined to be together thus Kesar fell in love with his wife.

Fouthly, She knew Kesar did not loved her, yet went ahead with marriage proposal without even reading Kesar's loveletter she stole

Fifthly, she got chunar from Gulaal knowing that It was not meant for her as Kesar has told him clearly. How can you be so lost and wear chunar as his gift as he did not hand him the gift at all? She did not even think about her respect for taking away gift not given?

Finally, Kesar did make mistake of getting married to her but did save her from loveless marriage if marriage went ahead. In some way, kesar stopped himself from great mistake that would end up hurting her even more.

Gulaal has been selfishly misused her and Kesar for own purpose though she may think it is genuine for her.

So she is not only victim of others' choice but of her own choice too. But I do have sympathy for her that her mother sudha did not properly look after her and forced her into loveless marriage without second thoughts knowing she herself was suffering from loveless marriage for many years.

I notice that on each of your points you blame Taali for making the mistake of loving someone. That's something she was entitled too. She hung around him because Kesar sent her MIXED messages to her and Gulaal filled her brain with the idea she was destined to marry him. You want Taali to be rationale but not Kesar? You feel saddened for Kesar getting rejected by Gulaal and don't blame him, but Taali is at fault for loving Kesar? Kesar broke her heart by taking her right to the point of doing the pheras and then backing away. IF he did not have ANY intentions, then he could have done the decent thing and told her, yes, you're right, I don't love you, instead of leading her own for some any years. How can you blame someone when you, yourself ADMIT that Gulaal has been selfishly misused her and Kesar for own purpose though she may think it is genuine for her.

There is nothing wrong with her mother Sudha either. No-one would have thought Kesar and her would NOT get married. No-one even acknowledged the child marriage of Kesar and Gulaal as a REAL marriage. And how was Sudha to know? She never forced Taali into anything. She is and has been a good mother to her by defending her and protecting her and focusing on what SHE wants. Sorry, but she's a good mother and her loyalty towards her shows.

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: shyams
Well all 3 Talli,Gulaal and Kesar have their own share of griefs and while Talli has been unfortunate to go through all this, neither gulaal nor kesar have tried to hurt her on purpose 🤔

I ditto u , all three are suffering , and If KG are finding happiness in their relation , Talli will also have her share of happiness and marrying someone is more or less a step on that route, just caz she is marrying someone for G doesnt mean she will have loveless life , it will be same if she married Kesar and all , well Ppl say , U fall more for a person when u LIVE with them thats when u get to know them more and u will LOVE them for wat they are , most of the arrange marriages goes on this same lines ...

Though , i blame G for hurting Talli more as sometimes it was giving false hopes which Talli pointed out and no one can deny as G was doing it as per her Zid and alll

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: nureat01
1) Her name is not TAAli i.e CLAP...her name is TALLI.

2) Gulaal is most definitely not her AUNT and neither is Dushyant her UNCLE😆...Where exactly has this ever been mentioned in the show? I'm trying to recall an incident where "Taali" as you call her has referred to Gulaal as KAAKI...has she?? Please do enlighten me then.

Miss Spellchecker, if all you got from the post is a need to correct my spelling, then that's about all you will be able to discuss.

Gulaal is her aunt and Dushyant is her uncle unless you do not consider that adoptive children are part of a family. Are one of those persons who has no problem if a man sleeps with his adoptive child once she is an adult. If so, what else can I say?

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: Laila2009
Arti, Your post sadly does reek of someone who is one of those compassionless people. It basically repeats over and over again that Taali better suck up and bear the consequences of what has happened. In no part of your post do we see any wrong doing and the slight acknowledgement is brushed aside with the "O, they apologized" and let's forget what happened. You have completely MISSED the point but that was expected.

And this CHI CHI CHI, where is this when you we watch Kesear doing the horizontal tango with his sister-in-law and Yashoda Gulaal? Mmm? Or are you more into these kinds of relationships? Sounds rather hypocritical. 🤗

exactly dear this story is about kes-gul still i wonder y cv wants compassionless people.to sympathize with her... everone has problem in life its better she is moving ahead ..go ahead talli we will bid adieu...and..if sister in law and devar getting married is considered as chiii...then kesar and talli who r now cousin brother and sister or uncle neice...their .love relationship is maha chii...and sweety dont worry about my relationships... u r not my phan... r u????...we are talking about the show and gullu talli realtionship...babes u sound like a loser..."oh my gosh i dont have any valid reason to argue no problem i will attack on personal life try to make phun out of it"... still if wish go on with your hypocritcal statement ...as if i care😉

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Gman

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Posted: 14 years ago

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I notice that on each of your points you blame Taali for making the mistake of loving someone. That's something she was entitled too. She hung around him because Kesar sent her MIXED messages to her and Gulaal filled her brain with the idea she was destined to marry him. You want Taali to be rationale but not Kesar? You feel saddened for Kesar getting rejected by Gulaal and don't blame him, but Taali is at fault for loving Kesar? Kesar broke her heart by taking her right to the point of doing the pheras and then backing away. IF he did not have ANY intentions, then he could have done the decent thing and told her, yes, you're right, I don't love you, instead of leading her own for some any years. How can you blame someone when you, yourself ADMIT that Gulaal has been selfishly misused her and Kesar for own purpose though she may think it is genuine for her.

There is nothing wrong with her mother Sudha either. No-one would have thought Kesar and her would NOT get married. No-one even acknowledged the child marriage of Kesar and Gulaal as a REAL marriage. And how was Sudha to know? She never forced Taali into anything. She is and has been a good mother to her by defending her and protecting her and focusing on what SHE wants. Sorry, but she's a good mother and her loyalty towards her shows.

Only to clarify here that I am not arguing against Talli nor for Gulaal or Kesar. They all have good points and bad points.

I think you quite misunderstood me here as I am telling that she is not only victim of other choice but of her own too. I am not blaming only her for her condition. Some others' are too be blamed for that namely Gulaal, Sudha and Kesar.

Gulaal has been and is her first culprit. She should not have encourage her to dream a false dreams. I have never appraised Gulaal for her behaviour.

Coming to Kesar, kesar may have mislead her but he did not confirm her that he loved her, he never did. She was believing that Kesar loved her on false assumption which did not have strong base i.e., for chunar case.

Lets be honest, by the time he proposed to her, did not she feel weird that out of blue the marriage proposal came from him all of sudden knowing she had been quite miserable from past Kesar's behaviour. Night before proposal, she knew that he did not love her and did not bother to read the letters. She let herself be played by Kesar's game. This is not love but called stupidity. Which she realised later on after wedding was called off but was too late.

He did made mistake of proposing to her for his selfish purpose ie. to punish Gulaal, but he did apologies for his misbehavior. Through Talli's insight, he learnt that if you love someone, you do not love expecting that the person will reciprocate but you just love the person unconditionally. So Kesar's has learnt his mistake and moved on.

I totally disagree with your view points towards Sudha.She too encouraged her to live in false hopes. I equally blame Gulaal and Sudha for the Tallis' condition. How can you decide someone's else life decision and how can you agree to it knowing you don't have consent from right person? Sudha is more matured and experienced to Talli. She is suffering from loveless marriage and still too. She has seen Talli being suffered from Kesar's misbehaviour in past. she agreed to get her married to him, why? Just because Talli wants too. Hence, she never looked back and asked even once in past why talli got hurt nor thought about Talli - kesar's future after marriage . She went ahead with this marriage decision blindly. Therefore, she is too her culprit.

Finally, I have previously mentioned why Talli too landed herself in condition. Loving someone is not mistake but acting stupidly in love is definitely mistake.

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: Laila2009

Miss Spellchecker, if all you got from the post is a need to correct my spelling, then that's about all you will be able to discuss.

Gulaal is her aunt and Dushyant is her uncle unless you do not consider that adoptive children are part of a family. Are one of those persons who has no problem if a man sleeps with his adoptive child once she is an adult. If so, what else can I say?

I wouldn't need to spellcheck if you bothered to atleast get the NAME of the character right...the character you are feeling oh so sad about😆

And CLEARLY you have NO clue about the relationships in this show if you don't even know with WHAT relationship Talli was "adopted" into the family...If nothing else, atleast try to recall that Kesar is Vasant's BROTHER...by no stretch of "logic" would an AUNT or UNCLE relationship EVER figure into any of these...Talli calls her "adoptive mother"...SUDHA Maa...She refers to Gulaal by her NAME...and has always treated her like an EQUAL.

@bold: Actually no, I'm one of those ppl who advocate "domestic abuse" because I don't start crying over one character slapping another in a TV show...clearly you are the only one with all the "mature" and "pure" thoughts in this world😆

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Nur - even at the 'risk' of getting quoted on this and ... *scared* given one brilliant pep talk on my lose morals - you're honestly wasting time here. Not like you didn't know. 😆 Btw, Talli does deserve Taali for some alter audience interest she pulls to the show - the more, the merrier (or not) ...?

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: Laila2009

And this CHI CHI CHI, where is this when you we watch Kesear doing the horizontal tango with his sister-in-law and Yashoda Gulaal? Mmm? Or are you more into these kinds of relationships? Sounds rather hypocritical. 🤗

Ahh, yes. Eventually we again get to the the crux of the problem. Gulaal is Kesar's wife, no longer his sister in law.

Okay then--- what about Talli and Kesar. Talli is the adopted daughter of Sudha, who is Kesar's Bhabhi. That makes them cousins.

What's that? They're not blood related? Cousin marriage is okay in India? There are restrictions against both situations in the US. But again, this is not the US, this is India so we'll talk about it in an Indian context.

Within the Indian context, it's also perfectly acceptable and fine for a widow to marry her brother-in-law.

Like I said before, would all this outrage happen if a man marries his younger sister-in-law? Or a man marries a younger woman?

Was there also such disgust and protestations about a woman marrying her brother-in-law Khwaish was aired?

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: nureat01

I wouldn't need to spellcheck if you bothered to atleast get the NAME of the character right...the character you are feeling oh so sad about😆

And CLEARLY you have NO clue about the relationships in this show if you don't even know with WHAT relationship Talli was "adopted" into the family...If nothing else, atleast try to recall that Kesar is Vasant's BROTHER...by no stretch of "logic" would an AUNT or UNCLE relationship EVER figure into any of these...Talli calls her "adoptive mother"...SUDHA Maa...She refers to Gulaal by her NAME...and has always treated her like an EQUAL.

@bold: Actually no, I'm one of those ppl who advocate "domestic abuse" because I don't start crying over one character slapping another in a TV show...clearly you are the only one with all the "mature" and "pure" thoughts in this world😆

Miss Spellchecker, IS not Sudha married to Vasant's first cousin? And in traditional Indian societies does not make them brothers and what is the title of your brother's wife. If you have a child through birth or adopted, then does not that make him (Vasant) your uncle and his wife (your aunt). In a funky and sick sort of way that DID make Kesar her "uncle." 😆😆

So, are you saying that it is OK for Taali to marry Dushyant or not?

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: likarsh

Ahh, yes. Eventually we again get to the this is the crux of the problem. Gulaal is Kesar's wife, no longer his sister in law.

Okay then--- what about Talli and Kesar. Talli is the adopted daughter of Sudha, who is Kesar's Bhabhi. That makes them cousins.

What's that? They're not blood related? Cousin marriage is okay in India? There are restrictions against both situations in the US. But again, this is not the US, this is India so we'll talk about it in an Indian context.

Within the Indian context, it's also perfectly acceptable and fine for a widow to marry her brother-in-law.

Like I said before, would all this outrage happen if a man marries his younger sister-in-law? Or a man marries a younger woman?

Was there also such disgust and protestations about a woman marrying her brother-in-law Khwaish was aired?

Is it ALSO okay for an adult woman to marry a 12-year old especially when the child cannot give consent? Can you show me the LAW that supports it. Second, I know NOTHING of the show Khwasih. What is gross is for an adult woman to fall in love with a boy whom loved as a child in a maternal way. You forget she was identified as Yashooda.

However, this thread is about Tali and the fact that she is a true victim, if not the real vicitm of Kesar and Gulaal's antics and the fact that people have started a "hate" campaign against her both her and FB is rather disappointing. I like her character, I hope she stays and I hope she gets some redemption. I would think that would be something you'd want to see too beyond lovey dovey scenes 🤢🤢🤢 between Kesear and Gulaal.

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