Kesar is still a little boy!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I just watched yesterday day's confrontation between Gulaal and Kesar this morning and had to write about them. On an acting front both actors deserve 10/10 for that scene. The emotions, facial expressions, music, dialogues and the delivery of the dialogues etc were all exquisitely written and delivered by both. Enough said.

My topic is about Kesar and his immaturity.

The scene revealed that even though Kesar now looks like a man, underneath it all he is still a little boy who hasn't grown up emotionally. Like a child he threw a tantrum when Gulaal left the house. He cried, he begged, he manipulated, he tried to use every arsenal at his disposal to get Gulaal to come back. When that failed he allowed Raman to mislead him and went to the punchayat to force Gulaal to come back.

When she comes back and offers him when she thinks he wants he is totally taken aback. What are you doing in my room? Of course I didn't want "that"!!! I don't want to live "with" you just be "near" you. While Gulaal has been shown to give this situation a lot of thought Kesar has just reacted. He said he considers Gulaal his wife but he hasn't thought about exactly what that means and what he wants from the relationship. He still thinks of her as his possession...his love, his thoughts are those of a child. Maybe the early marriage has never allowed him to think beyond a child.

Kesar may love Gulaal but that love is still very childlike, immature. He still thinks of Gulaal from a child's view. He probably knows everything about her likes and dislikes but he doesn't know her as a woman. Her grief, her sadness, her maturity, her loneliness. He sees it but I don't think he quiet gets it at the deep fundamental level.

Yesterday's scene was a wake up call for Kesar and almost a cleanse for Gulaal. Those tears and her collapsing yesterday seemed somewhat therapeutic. If leaving the house was closure for Vasant...yesterday's tears and confrontation were her first step towards Kesar.

Kesar has a lot of growing up to do before he is ready to love and accept Gulaal and his marriage to her as an adult with everything it entails. On the other hand Gulaal has to still let go of Vasant and see Kesar as an adult.

As wonderful as yesterday was it was a revelation to us as a viewers how far apart they still are. It also gave me new respect for the CVs of Gulaal and trust that they will give us a wonderful ride as we see Gulaal and Kesar become GULSAR!!!!!

-Shelly
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kesar may love Gulaal but that love is still very childlike, immature. He still thinks of Gulaal from a child's view. He probably knows everything about her likes and dislikes but he doesn't know her as a woman. Her grief, her sadness, her maturity, her loneliness. He sees it but I don't think he quiet gets it at the deep fundamental level.


hey...shelly...agree with all ur points..but how come his love is childlike..n immature..?from paanba n kesar's conversation...we know...na...he loves her as a widow...aren't widows are lonely n sad in every phase of life?n kesar sees himself as a man n gulaal as a woman..he wants to be her support...in d future...he respects her love towards vasant...that's y...doesn't want to force himself on her..but yesterday...she was talking all disgusting things...I agree to d point that he doesn't get d pain of her at d deep...but he is always takes her opinion..na..now what more wanted from his side...he is working at d factory...na...but he has to be more responsible...and his way of approach is immature...not his love...😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Chweetu! Excellent. You're going make me defend my words. I will. I have to go run an errand and will as soon as I come back!

-Shelly
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Posted: 14 years ago
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As far as I see, he was forced to be away in a boarding school. He went with the devastating truth and HIS Gulaal's involvement. He believed deep in his hearts it can't be true. The early influence has allowed him to grow up with mixed feelings.
What I find now is that he is looking for the quality time he lost out with her in these 10 years. When he keeps repeating "Sab kuch teekh ho jaayega", that is the impression I get. What he missed, he wants to forcibly get back. He wants to enjoy all the pampering and exclusiveness he once enjoyed.
Though he very well knows he is attracted to her, otherwise he would not try to cover up in that Bangle scene. He feels about his responsibility by remembering the promise he gave her as a child that he is her shield/kavach. He voiced it out to his mother.
What repulsed him yesterday was the fact that she thought that he needed her only for physical needs. When actually his personality is layered between the lonely,lost child seeking support from her by saying everything will fall in place once she returns to the extremes of defending for her, be it the guys at the temple or Sudha Babhi at home.
Basically he wants to make up for the lost moments of the fun-filled days he spent with her. If he is assured of that love he has missed in these 10 years, probably he would be able to realise the true meaning of life and the responsibilities he is expected to shoulder. When he becomes focussed, he can then dwell on the "husband" factor. Currently, he believes in his love for her, at the same time he is lost like a child, longing for love, hurt at the (adult) accusations, lonely and confused.
The story is about Gulaal. So, it is time that Gulaal carry on her promise to Vasant to guide Kesar and make him the person that Vasant wanted to see him as. When I say this, it goes without saying that in the process of shouldering the responsibilities that come along, in being a son, brother and last, a husband, he has to be KESAR without compromising on his individuality in his attempt to mould himself as Vasant just because Gulaal needs to be impressed.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovtv

@Chweetu! Excellent. You're going make me defend my words. I will. I have to go run an errand and will as soon as I come back!

-Shelly



Oh..thats so nice of u..shelly...thank u...😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kesar may love Gulaal but that love is still very childlike, immature. He still thinks of Gulaal from a child's view. He probably knows everything about her likes and dislikes but he doesn't know her as a woman. Her grief, her sadness, her maturity, her loneliness. He sees it but I don't think he quiet gets it at the deep fundamental level.


hey...shelly...agree with all ur points..but how come his love is childlike..n immature..?from paanba n kesar's conversation...we know...na...he loves her as a widow...aren't widows are lonely n sad in every phase of life?n kesar sees himself as a man n gulaal as a woman..he wants to be her support...in d future...he respects her love towards vasant...that's y...doesn't want to force himself on her..but yesterday...she was talking all disgusting things...I agree to d point that he doesn't get d pain of her at d deep...but he is always takes her opinion..na..now what more wanted from his side...he is working at d factory...na...but he has to be more responsible...and his way of approach is immature...not his love...😊



Hi chweetu,

Yes he knows all Gulaal's history and I have no doubt that he loves and he loves her to the point of obsession, so when she is not near him he goes all pagal. The maturity level comes in when you listen to the one you love and give them space and time as requested. Which he didn't understand and didn't respect. Maturity also gives you patience to understand that even though she is not near you, she can still love you. Sometimes the one you love doesn't love you back. So then you have to listen to what she says and back off. All these things come with time and patience...Which he just doesn't have yet. He will but ... right now I see Gulaal side...all she sees is a child trying stepping into her Vasant's shoes!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@MeySimi

Agree with what you're saying. He is desperately trying to recapture what had 10 years ago...but at that time he was 12 and now he is 22. Which is an adult but he is still has a lot of growing to do before he is ready for an adult relationship with a woman.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I completely agree with your view. Kesar needs to grow up to and adult husband and give time and space for Gulaal to see him as her husband whereas Gulaal needs to free herself from vasant cage and see that Kesar's love is not lust. Then only two will come to some equal understanding.
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Hi chweetu,

Yes he knows all Gulaal's history and I have no doubt that he loves and he loves her to the point of obsession, so when she is not near him he goes all pagal. The maturity level comes in when you listen to the one you love and give them space and time as requested. Which he didn't understand and didn't respect. Maturity also gives you patience to understand that even though she is not near you, she can still love you. Sometimes the one you love doesn't love you back. So then you have to listen to what she says and back off. All these things come with time and patience...Which he just doesn't have yet. He will but ... right now I see Gulaal side...all she sees is a child trying stepping into her Vasant's shoes!



hey..shelly agree with u...that kesar lacks maturity in thinking .He was misguided by d people around him...n he doesn't wanted a lover back to his home..he wants that affectionate gulaal...with whom he was attached...n d thing bothering him is...she just misunderstood his feelings...rather I'll say she purposefully avoids his genuine feelings...that's what he is trying to say in today's episode also..he doesn't want her love back...he is ok with the fact..she is around him...so, his love is safe at its own place...n agree with ur point that he needs to give space n time to Gulaal..but Gulaal ever think back..how he will be...in those 2 days...after coming back from badi haveli...that one fact makes viewers to pity kesar...😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great post, Shelly! *claps* You echoed out my thoughts perfectly in words. I was feeling the same as well.. even more so after watching Today's episode. For instance, the first scene in Today's episode with Sudha Bhabhi making such a huge commotion over "Who gets to be in the Rasoi", i just wished for once Kesar stands up to Gulaal infront of others. I don't like how he always walks away in situations like this. I mean yes, she tells you not to step in but he could have just gone ahead still. It's nice to see that he respects Gulaal ... but it's becoming more of "him always obeying her and listening to what she says" In other words, Gulaal always makes the final call. I want to see him making the decisions as well.
Also i feel Kesar becoming matured, will not be an issue ... but rather Gulaal seeing him as an adult is where the issue is and am even starting to feel it may not be possible at all. Or that it'll probably take a very very long time. Hope am proved wrong though!

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