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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightnow

There is nothing wrong if bhabhi and devar fall in love and marry when they do it at a certain common age, some years more or less, but belonging to the same age group. In this case, Kesar was shown as a child in the beginning when gulal entered with Vasant. And at that time, she must have nurtured motherly or sisterly feelings towards Kesar. Like the film Lamhe where a child of Sridevi starts loving Anil Kapoor. Which was rejected at the box office.


You must be referring to Astitva Ek Prem Kahani which is one of my most favourite serials. Simran suffered when an younger woman entered the husband's life and simran's life went haywire.

Gulal at such an young age showed so much maturity and responsibility. But now she is at cross roads. It is not simply loving an younger man which by itself is not disputable. Our Sachin Tendulkar himself is a shining example. And Nargis sunil dutt, Ash and Abhi all of them are celebrities and make it easy for many to take decisions.

Gulal must first gather courage to express her feelings. For that first her burden of Talli's feelings must be taken care of by Talli herself. When everything is settled, What will happen if Vasant returns at the wrong time How Motaba will take all these things??



Hmm, I really don't like the idea of vasant rising from the dead. That would be way cliched. But yes, that is a possibility!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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If Gulaal was genuinely happy living by Vasant's memories alone then we could say that she most probably will never fall for another man. But we have seen her loneliness, we have seen how she secretly craves for something more and unconsciously from Kesar (the second imli scene).

Bringing Vasant back would way too Ektaish and I'd like to think the Gulaal creatives are quite unique and wouldn't bother treading that path.

So instead of killing off Gulaal, why not just show her falling in love with the grown up Kesar? No they weren't like mother-son. Their relationship never had a clear definition and that is why its so beautiful!
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ rightnow why is always that love stories end in tragedy...all i ask as viewer...is for Kesar to love Gulal and Talli to find her love...

and believe you me..this is what we are gearing up for... Talli will marry Dushayant when she finds out that Keasr loves Gulal and Gulala loves Kesar...she will marry Dushyant and revenge game will begin between the friends and lovers... Rajneeti! a true melodrama of lives... but the true lovers will unite Kesar and Gulal! well! this is my prediction

as for the age factor... i think today 8/10 is not big gap! even the prince married a princess in front of the world five month elder woman

so Older women and younger man is the rage ...and i rather see Gulal with Kesar than Vasant! he dead!!! let him lie in peace ...if he come back... Gulal goes down the drain...

the show just picked up... lets not see and wish for it being packed up...what say?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightnow

I respect your viewpoint.

At that time, Gulaal did not marry Dushyant because she did not want marriage in the real sense that is sexual Marrying a full man like Dushyant means accepting Dushyant as sexual partner.

Many women when they enter their in laws house, have young devars who will eventually grow up into young men. But Bhabhis still consider devars as sons. that is why that term Bhabhima has come into existence. In YRKKH, we have Varsha and her young devar. Can Varsha ever think of marrying him at any point of time? There are scores of such situations.

Gulal is shown to be very particular about her promises. And she always promised Talli that Kesar would marry her.

I also believe that once a woman loves so deeply a person like Vasant, she just cant think of another person taking his place though Vasant might have died. One can live with memories.

Dushyant also loved her from the beginning and went to the extent of killing Vasant.

Love and feelings are good as long as they also ensure some sort of responsibility.

thanks for aknowledgement ! @ bold yes gulaal and kesar may have shared thatt bhabhima and devar relation as kesar has this relation with his sudha bhabhi if gulaal and kesar didnt knew each other ...but they were frns what about a best friend turning as wife of older brother...can he treat her as bhabhi ma then ????? they were frns first and she later turned his bhabhi hence kesar didnt changed his mind and one more point this bhabhi eventually turned his wife later and kesar has grown up considering gulaal as his wife.even gulaal did deeyarvatu with her own choice with whatever reason she doesnt treat keasr as her husband but that doesnt mean she consider him as her son ...imagine a girl doing deeyarvatu with his devar and considerinf him as her son all these year she may have other emotions she is caretaker a companion a guardian but considering son is wierd 😕 ...its not that their relation is build suddenly there was always love between them which made kesar to say u r mine ( in innocence ) ...we value a childhood love if two person love each other in childhood its accepted but here keasar feeling is interpretaed as odeiupus complex strange ...just coz she is 10 year older to him ! gulaal loved him too and acknowledged it she said it to kesar today she said it to dushyant y he want to take her love away from her reffereing to kesar (old epi) clearly she didnt stated he is my son or so... ya gulaal have turmoil to accept him as her husband but its not that she cant do or its wrong against tradition or culture now kesar is at 21 he is in love with gulaal he is her husband she may fall in love with a person who was once her little frn ..i dont know anything about YRKKH never heard of it ...cant comment on that...but i know many serial are based on the age difference where man was 45-52 and girl at 18-19 almost equal to the age of men duaghter still they form a relationship and ppl appreciated them...but here women is 10 yar old so its not acceptable not fair
Edited by arti07 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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ok! kesar was 12 and gulal 16/ 17 max when she married vasat! so only 4/5 years same generation...so no problem here...its kes gul love story!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ arti
I will agree with each and every one's point of view to some extent. We are all seeing this realtionship from GULAAL'S angle only. why is that ?
Let us see it from KESAR's point of view also .What does KESAR think of GULAAL since childhood. He has never ever considered her as his mother's substitute. she was always GULAAL for him as mentioned by arti07. He has always wanted GULAAL as his wife since childhood . he knew the difference between a mother and wife even when he was small, not what a wife meant excatly but how a wife always looks after her husband and he wanted GULAAL to look after him.
Let us not forget those letters he has been writing to her .As far as KESAR is concerned she is his wife , something he never denies even to himself.
Let us not forget why he was shifted to another room from GULAAL'S room by Motabha. He could see KESAR wanting more from her when he grew up even then.The scene when he notices them sleep close to each other with KESAR'S foot on GULAAL'S foot. He saw red immediately. KESAR was moved out after that night. Even GULAAL does not know what Motabha saw that night that made him react so violently. Motabha never thought that they shared a mother and son relationship.
Love stories end in tragedies is true but not on star plus thank god for that. Why can GULAAL not be happy in her life? She has moved on , she may not realise it but she has been moving towards KESAR in her small ways since she made him her friend years back. I will feel really bad for KESAR if all his feelings are trodded on and not taken seriously by the family members. He has been nuturing them for so many years in his heart.
I do not want it to end in any tragedy Greek or Shakespere.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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okay if there are people out there unhappy with kesr and gulaal's marriage, then i propose a suggestion for you... how about, you get him married off to me... he is about 5 years older than me and i guess that would be acceptable to you since men can only marry a woman of his age or younger than him. what say?😉

haha. but seriously, why are people having so much problem with the age gap... gulaal and kesar have about 4/5 years of age gap... that's perfectly fine... why are you guys spoiling the whole concept of love by defining it when love itself doesn't have any boundaries!😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Shalini
The line to get married to KESAR just got longer.He truly is a Krishna.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ritukaprithvi: HAHAHAHAHAHA!! but at least, these people would accept it nah! he's older than me.. 😳☺️
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bottomline is Kes-Gul are married and at that time, what Gulaal did was right coz she was in that situation and today it stands that they are married for over 10 yrs and he has grown up and so on... and to me Gulaal show has always been about Kes-Gulaal bond, they were meant to happen in anyway
If you look back on the past episodes Gul-Kes never shared an named relationship at all, he never called her bhabhi or maa or whatever, i think ppl need to see that and see how their relation was, even back then i wrote a post saying i am loving the Kes-Gul bond and this is where Vasant had died coz we saw both Kes-Gul there for each other in a way, even if the visually it was Gulaal there for Kesar but deep down we knew Kesar was there for her, he was her support and strength, coz she had to care for him and so on coz at one point Motabha and Paanbha were in hospital for days in a coma, and also be there for Reva and so on, its called support - it was nver taking on motherly duties and so on, just taking care of the house and so on coz she was the elder bahu and so on and her and Kesar were close and attached even during Vasant-Gulaal courtship
Kesar went away for 8/10 yrs, he's grown away from her and so on - if he had grown in front of her then it would be an difference (not different just a difference) in a way, but he hasnt
And yesterday we saw Kesar wanting to know why he hasnt been able to hate her and why he cant stay away from her even though he wants to and why his eyes always seek her when she isnt there, and those questions will get answers slowly on why he hasnt been able to, and all i can say its love - he loves that, thats why he does what he does and why he cant hate etc
As for Gulaal loving him in that way, well thats to be seen when the time comes and when she has dwell on it and confront it, and so on... like Reemz said there will never be a pinpoint to where love has happened or fallen in love, its just there - its always been there that love
Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago

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