GHKPM WU & episode daily discussion thread #111| DT NOTE p.113 - Page 112

Originally posted by: Nja91

I would like to disagree. Imo its not ok to keep saying "Sai is fine with abuse". She is not. she hasnt been able to do what is perhaps the best step- file a case, get him arrested. but that does not mean she likes being abused. she has repeatedly walked out when treated with disrespect but she is reeled back in due to the kids. she has called out his behaviour as harrasment, zabardasti and sadakchaap romeogiri. she has told V to back off and she has reinforced it while talking to Satya also that she does not appreciate his coercion. so no, she is not fine with any of the things she has endured. but she has tolerated it and there are many reasons why.

Given how she started, given what she was, given how she revolted at the sight of abuse in the house, the way she never questions it, anymore never tells him to not touch her anymore, i don't think is not "being able to". There is no reason she should tolerate, it. Given she goes on to slap men who abuse their wife, make their wives file a police case against abusive men. Ab toh she does not even tell Virat that she would put him behind bars when he barges into her work place and physically hurts her colleague.

She just is used to it and she does not have it in her, the required strength to call it out, to punish the man in picture..Also the love she has for him, is uncalled for.

In any case, we can agree to disagree. 👍

Originally posted by: badgarlriri

I think Sai doesn't realize to the extened how much virat abuse her

And I can't blame her because she is kid that got married to this nonsense man she doesn't know better

Satya treating her well will definitely make her realize that and probably make her understand virat

Sai need help in this

I'm counting on Satya to draw line with virat for Sai

Because the way he manhandled her today you could see Satya was soo angry

But he didn't say anything because of Sai

Once they married I'm sure this will be addressed

I disagree...This narrative would have worked when she was young.. Not when she has seen the ways of world, when she has made women stand against their abusive husband, made them file a case against them.

She had more understanding of abuse before she fell in love with Virat.

Satya i am counting on too.

Originally posted by: asmi_ekaa

I disagree...This narrative would have worked when she was young.. Not when she has seen the ways of world, when she has made women stand against their abusive husband, made them file a case against them.

She had more understanding of abuse before she fell in love with Virat.

Satya i am counting on too.

That not how abuse works

You can have PhD on abusive realtionships and when you are in one you can't see it

Because human brain does not differentiate between logic and emotions

That's the reason women for soo long are stuck in abusive relationship and most of the time they don't even realize it

Amd I understand where you coming from

Sai need to see things from 3rd person pov

Satya will need to stand if not today then tomorrow for Sai

Amd draw line on sands for Chavan's

And he will do it not because he will boss Sai or want to control her but because protecting her from everyone will be Satya responsibility

He promised himself that he will do everything for the person he marries

And I understand you too but

Abusive cycle is very very complex thing

Human emotions are complex and we should refrain from victim blaming

Originally posted by: asmi_ekaa

Given how she started, given what she was, given how she revolted at the sight of abuse in the house, the way she never questions it, anymore never tells him to not touch her anymore, i don't think is not "being able to". There is no reason she should tolerate, it. Given she goes on to slap men who abuse their wife, make their wives file a police case against abusive men. Ab toh she does not even tell Virat that she would put him behind bars when he barges into her work place and physically hurts her colleague.

She just is used to it and she does not have it in her, the required strength to call it out, to punish the man in picture..Also the love she has for him, is uncalled for.

In any case, we can agree to disagree. 👍

Thats precisely the point. V is not some random guy in her life. She invested a LOT in the relationship. She loved him. Her whole world revolved around him. He was her everything. She has 2 kids with the man. She was a different person before marriage and now shes different. It is much easier for her or anyone to revolt or speak up for a stranger but harder to speak for herself. When someone at the tender age of 18 is orphaned and she finds people like V and CN as her "family", its incredibly tough. When she didn't know them she could be a brash teenager. With every passing day she realized that they were her official "family" and she'd have to get used to them. They also manipulated her. Constantly hearing about how she's stubborn, she's problematic impacted her personality and the result is a mellowed down Sai. She now weighs her words. As a single mother with limited finances and no support she's really not in the frame of mind to wager a war like she should. Her priority is just to find peace and make sure her children are protected from the harsh truth. She doesn't want the bitterness of her past to affect them. She also has realized that some comflicts are useless. She has spent her time away from V wondering about all the "what-ifs". Now she has to factor in both kids. What she wants to do is to take both her kids and go far away from Vs reach and live peacefully but she can't. She's doing her best in the circumstances to hold onto as much as she can. She has threatened V with consequences but she knows the truth - the man is a DCP. Bk is MLA. Nothing will ever come out of her threats to him. Rather they will out of spite make her life harder like they always have. P had filed fake court case. Next BK, V will do some nonsense. She doesn't have the bandwidth to handle more pointless conflicts. Yet she doesn't back off. She does speak up. When she was locked she did what Sai Joshi at 18 would have done- climb down the window. When she is being forced to marry, she has categorically refused over and over again not giving into manipulation.

Thats why I think its unfair to claim that she is "fine" with the abuse. As an audience, i also feel she should take legal action or slap him. But its not so easy to do so. How/what will she explain to the kids about why she's getting V arrested? If she tells them the truth, how will it impact them... She has to factor in SO much. And she's honestly tired of fighting. Her body language reeks of it. And her exhaustion is understandable. She was trying to find a compromise where everyone could just live peacefully. And thats practical. But V is such a douche , he wont let that happen.

Forgiveness isnt forgetting. Shes not forgiving V for him, but for herself. Because hanging on to the bitterness is affecting her mental health.

Anything she has tolerated has only been for kids sake. If she was a single woman with no kids, her reactions would have been different.

She cant change the fact that she got habituated and attached to V and loved him. She had him in her life as husband at a time when she was vulnerable and she loved him. She can't turn that off. But she does know what she wants and does not want. Shes clear that being with him is not an option. Thats more than most women would do in het situation. Many people will feel the need to compromise just for kids sake. But she's trying to find a middle ground where kids get their parents but separately, not as spouses. She hasn't accepted his half assed apology and proposal and his outburst today accusing her, CAing her has now made her even more certain that she shouldn't go back to him.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Thats precisely the point. V is not some random guy in her life. She invested a LOT in the relationship. She loved him. Her whole world revolved around him. He was her everything. She has 2 kids with the man. She was a different person before marriage and now shes different. It is much easier for her or anyone to revolt or speak up for a stranger but harder to speak for herself. When someone at the tender age of 18 is orphaned and she finds people like V and CN as her "family", its incredibly tough. When she didn't know them she could be a brash teenager. With every passing day she realized that they were her official "family" and she'd have to get used to them. They also manipulated her. Constantly hearing about how she's stubborn, she's problematic impacted her personality and the result is a mellowed down Sai. She now weighs her words. As a single mother with limited finances and no support she's really not in the frame of mind to wager a war like she should. Her priority is just to find peace and make sure her children are protected from the harsh truth. She doesn't want the bitterness of her past to affect them. She also has realized that some comflicts are useless. She has spent her time away from V wondering about all the "what-ifs". Now she has to factor in both kids. What she wants to do is to take both her kids and go far away from Vs reach and live peacefully but she can't. She's doing her best in the circumstances to hold onto as much as she can. She has threatened V with consequences but she knows the truth - the man is a DCP. Bk is MLA. Nothing will ever come out of her threats to him. Rather they will out of spite make her life harder like they always have. P had filed fake court case. Next BK, V will do some nonsense. She doesn't have the bandwidth to handle more pointless conflicts. Yet she doesn't back off. She does speak up. When she was locked she did what Sai Joshi at 18 would have done- climb down the window. When she is being forced to marry, she has categorically refused over and over again not giving into manipulation.

Thats why I think its unfair to claim that she is "fine" with the abuse. As an audience, i also feel she should take legal action or slap him. But its not so easy to do so. How/what will she explain to the kids about why she's getting V arrested? If she tells them the truth, how will it impact them... She has to factor in SO much. And she's honestly tired of fighting. Her body language reeks of it. And her exhaustion is understandable. She was trying to find a compromise where everyone could just live peacefully. And thats practical. But V is such a douche , he wont let that happen.

Forgiveness isnt forgetting. Shes not forgiving V for him, but for herself. Because hanging on to the bitterness is affecting her mental health.

Anything she has tolerated has only been for kids sake. If she was a single woman with no kids, her reactions would have been different.

She cant change the fact that she got habituated and attached to V and loved him. She had him in her life as husband at a time when she was vulnerable and she loved him. She can't turn that off. But she does know what she wants and does not want. Shes clear that being with him is not an option. Thats more than most women would do in het situation. Many people will feel the need to compromise just for kids sake. But she's trying to find a middle ground where kids get their parents but separately, not as spouses. She hasn't accepted his half assed apology and proposal and his outburst today accusing her, CAing her has now made her even more certain that she shouldn't go back to him.

I would maintain she is used to it and does not get offended with it anymore..Her issue was never his abuse, but being dusro aurat. She had enough chance to let him know that his abusive nature is an issue, that he is not a good person..Also its wrong on her part, to let a colleague be physically harmed and do nothing about it, twice, by someone she has "issues" with. The colleague is being nice does not mean that you do nothing about it just because you are " majboor" .

Vulnerability k naam pr not everything can be justified. She has been reduced to a vulnerable woman, who just gives khokhli dhamkis, not even her dhamkis are worth watching anymore, given how strong and powerful her character was..Given how she fought against injustice..This is the same woman who wanted to leave the house because he forcefully held her hands... Sai can be justified for everything but not for constantly taking in all the abuse and still giving heart eyes to this man, because of he was her first love and husband "once".

There is a famous saying, in Geeta , "anyay karne se jiyada anyay sehna paap hai".

Also I am not in support of her letting her child believe the father is good, she herself believes the father is a good after, after him locking a small child with her in a room..what is she teaching Sai that Papa can lock them in a room kyuki game chal raha hai? The child should know that her father is not a good human being, rather we get her saying, Virat bahut ache pita hain ...we get oh i don't want to be another woman and not oh i don't want to get back to an abusive and harassing husband.

I am sorry i get your love for Sai and attachment as well. i do see that you understand her the most probably..but what's wrong is wrong!!

Originally posted by: Mayagujral

So, virat is gonna go back to his angry/hulk mode with sai? All the deewanapan and pyar will be gone.?

He literally is blaming sai and acting so abusive and cruel. Wow and what about when you got married to pakhi? Lol.

He's the type of guy who'd be all crazy over a girl but then will abuse and blame her that she rejected him.

I cannot watch the hulk mode, psycho virat is much better.

Can't watch posh mb, post shruti and post leap virat. Who'd benefit pakhi while being angry at sai.

Ugh how do we tolerate post leap Pakrat scenes again😭😡

No idea...just another one of 101 reasons by vankar for the next twist 🤣🤣

Keep your expectations zero👍🏼 otherwise like me selective viewing. It's rinse repeat

Originally posted by: badgarlriri

That not how abuse works

You can have PhD on abusive realtionships and when you are in one you can't see it

Because human brain does not differentiate between logic and emotions

That's the reason women for soo long are stuck in abusive relationship and most of the time they don't even realize it

Amd I understand where you coming from

Sai need to see things from 3rd person pov

Satya will need to stand if not today then tomorrow for Sai

Amd draw line on sands for Chavan's

And he will do it not because he will boss Sai or want to control her but because protecting her from everyone will be Satya responsibility

He promised himself that he will do everything for the person he marries

And I understand you too but

Abusive cycle is very very complex thing

Human emotions are complex and we should refrain from victim blaming

Isiliye i spoke about how until it's abt her, it's fine, you can quote the whole Stolcholm Syndrome , but when a colleague at hospital is being harassed, beaten up, harmed ,the second time at your workplace and you do nothing about it, knowing the colleague is just not dragging the matter for you, respecting you, you are wrong. Satya has been treated so unfairly by her ex husband because of her...sirf sorry bolne se kya hoga?

All is cool. I get every reasoning of Sai marrying Satya not going back to DCP but the main elephant in the room isn't being addressed & obviously his preleap ke last actions before Sai left and post leap antics isn't being addressed at all that should be highlighted. I'm definitely annoyed because of that!

Can you tell me in which plot has the audience got fully satisfied with the outcome. I can still never count a single one to date. Every track end had some or the other collateral damage. Some small, some big. One of the reasons, that I don’t count on this show to give a satisfactory result of anything.

Cheap thrills bhar bhar ke milega but sensationalism loving makers will never think of anything sensitive

ok i havent watched since maybe 2-3 weeks. anyone can fill me up whats happening pls. the last i watched was sai getting puran poli or kothambirwadi from satyas house. i was assuming she will marry satya because vinu will ask her to leave his mon dad alone & not break their family. is that the case or something else