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Posted: 2 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

I would say that Stockholm syndrome is not the right word for Sai's feelings for Virat. You all are saying that Sai had no choice but to fall in love with her abuser Virat. This was the same Sai who humiliated Virat and his family in front of their neighbors and left them. When Virat apologized to her and asked her to come back she refused to come. She did come back few days later but only to take care of Virat after he was shot and then leave him again. She was ready to leave Virat again but stayed back only after Virat's reassurance.

This is just a small example. What I'm trying to say is Sai is not that type of a person who can fall in love with her abuser because she has no choice. I know the makers have butchered Virat so much that we all have forgotten his good sides as well as all those happy moments of Sairat. Sai had her good, happy and enjoyable moments with Virat too and that was when she had fallen in love with him. She appreciated him when she saw his good side and band bajaoed him when she saw his bad side. I guess during the college competition track and MiMo track she was genuinely happy with him. These two phases were the only two happy phases of their lives where they enjoyed each and every moment together. Sai has always proved she can never live in a toxic relationship no matter what. Post Shruti track she tried to make her marriage work but after a certain point of time gave up when she saw no signs from Virat to spend his life with her. If Virat had rejected her love due to anger after she confessed in front of the entire world she would have surely left him again.

I'm so sorry dear but Sai isn't a type of person who will take abuse isn't a save you think it is

Alot of times vitcms in domestic abusive relationship don't even realize that they are being abused

& being stuck in a abusive relationship doesn't mean that person is weak


What you think an abusive relationship is

A abusive relationship can have normal happy moments too

But with those normal happy moments there is emotional manipulation, emotional abuse , disrespectful behavior, humiliation on daily basis

Virat is a perfect example of an abusive man

He will abuse , violet Sai , disrespect her shout at her sometimes even manhandle her and when she would try to leave he would gaslight her that she is making a scene

Apologies act good for 2 days and then will go back to behaving to his orginals self that is abusive

Be abusive act apologetic then again be abusive and apologize

rinse, repeat

cycle of abuse

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Posted: 2 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: NayaNehaD31

A Good post indeed. You do have a valid point. In any normal situation: this applies—- absolutely 👍🏼 Loved it. Keep it up. Good review.


You know a lot of people that i know personally have experienced this 😔 it’s just sad.

Thanks for tagging me❤️

Also keep tagging me❤️ love your POV!

Omg im soo sorry to hear about that

:(

I know abusive relationship are very common in our society I really hope they are safe and get out of these

Praying for them

Thanks soo much

I really hope this post spread awareness to people out there seeking help :))

I sometimes get serious

Sorry if this made you sad

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Posted: 2 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: badgarlriri

Omg im soo sorry to hear about that

:(

I know abusive relationship are very common in our society I really hope they are safe and get out of these

Praying for them

Thanks soo much

I really hope this post spread awareness to people out there seeking help :))

I sometimes get serious

Sorry if this made you sad

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No, it didn't made me sad.🤗

Good post. 👍🏼❤️

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Posted: 2 years ago
#24

There were two instances where Sai could have escaped this relationship.

First was during mirchi peesing kaand.

And the next was during Pulkit lunch kaand.

These two incidents Sai had strength & showed good resolve

After that, Sai went too deep into the relationship. She was young & vulnerable - with practically not a single supportive relationship.

This is the original Sai I'm talking about.


Since Shruthi track, none of the characters including Sai make sense. It's just mindless toxicity & torture p*rn.

Edited by nethraa_99 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

There were two instances where Sai could have escaped this relationship.

First was during mirchi peesing kaand.

And the next was during Pulkit lunch kaand.

These two incidents Sai had strength & showed good resolve

After that, Sai went too deep into the relationship. She was young & vulnerable - with practically not a single supportive relationship.

This is the original Sai I'm talking about.


Since Shruthi track, none of the characters including Sai make sense. It's just mindless toxicity & torture p*rn.

This makes me sooo sad

Now she is stuck with this man for life

Be it even as co parents she still have interact with him

This whole show was a torture p@@n

But what is disturbing is even after escaping this said realtionship the torture haven't stopped

It's soo sad brutal and disgusting

:(

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Posted: 2 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: asmi_ekaa

I so agree with ur views on the marriage Sai has with Virat, for a long time i have been calling it Stockholm Syndrome.

In real life , an ideal situation ,Sai being an empathetic doctor she is she would have realised that the young Sai suffered from it given she had no real family to back her...

But then this is a tv show and this is not real. The makers have always established Virat and Sai as lovers and Sai's denials as something that she does in anger..Virat has gone back to being in I love Sai mode after his us aurat ki shakal nahi dekhni, after leading on Pakhi..So i am sure Sai will too have that phase, "where she gets back to Virat bahut ache pita or pati hain aur maine apni zindagi mei sirf unse mohabbat ki hai ".😒

Moreover If Sai does not go back to Virat, there is nothing for Virat or Pakhi in the show..The only good part abt Virat is that Sai loves him, his children love him. I am sure makers won't take that away from the lead.

I agree with you in all that

But I don't differentiate in my morals even if that's a show

If I want to ship people or get entertainment there are alot of show that have healthy relationships ( not in Itv ) sadly

But I consider TV as a mirror to reality soo if they showing a abusive relationship as couple goals and abusive partners as lovers I have problem with that

Because what kind of messages it is sending to society to people that it's OK to be abusive and that people should take abuse from there partner or family

And you are right in the end

They will brush every deed of virat under the rugg and call it a day by making the female character forgive his every abuse criminal behavior 😆

It's sad but butter truth about itv

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Posted: 2 years ago
#27

Thanks for tagging, this is interesting because the points you make are valid, Sai was too young when she got married and it wasn't under the most ideal or favourable of circumstances.

The age difference definitely plays a major role, it could have been maybe overlooked if Virat wasn't the aggressive or manipulative guy but unfortunately he is. Sai wasn't equipped to deal with being thrown into this, a lot of her emotions were influenced by the 'marriage', if she were to find love then it had to be within it. Her morals would never allow her to consider anything else (rightly so) + divorce had never been discussed in any of their fights as much as I can recall it was always walking away and separation etc.

All of this definitely points towards love under specific circumstances and limitations.

As a viewer I have not always followed the show regularly, I cannot stand Virat Or Sairat as a romantic couple. Never could from the beginning because I have never been convinced with the falling in love phase, it was badly written and executed in my opinion.

So I am just going to assume that given the fact that they are married Sai grew to like certain aspects of Virat, focused or leaned more towards it making her fall for him. I am not sure if I see it as a form of stockholm syndrome as my knowledge on the topic is definitely limited. Irrespective of all this, Sai's marriage to Virat is not a healthy one. There was always a third person in their marriage and neither of them could agree on how to deal with it. Virat who actually should have been dealing with it never did and there were clear double standards here because what didn't apply to him applied to Sai given his reaction to Aniket, Ajinkya etc.


I am looking at it as Sai having fallen in love once but getting out of the marriage nevertheless . This makes sense to me as it doesn't invalidate her agency and decisions. People fall in love with the wrong person often, only to realise it as a mistake or fall out of love and move on. If they show this with Sai I would be more than happy.

Her marriage was an abusive on no ifs and buts about it. She can do much better on her own or someone else of her choice. Going back to Virat without him showing any remorse (in action) and him earning her love or trust back, well this time she wouldn't have anybody to blame for what follows because this time it wouldn't have been circumstances leading her to Virat but a clear, well informed choice.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: badgarlriri

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Sai really confessed what she really felt about her past marriage .

We all have been back and forth about what Sai feel about her ex husband now but I have always wonder what she think about her feeling now as a Matured women about her past marriage.

Let be elaborate

Sai was child when she got married to Virat barely legal. A teenager

She was put into a situation where she has no control over her life no protection , no support

She got married to this man who was in his late 20's who was got an opportunity to be an independent adult who had life experience , control over his life support of his family while she had non of these.

Sai faced alot of abuse from her husband family in all this her husband also abused her in alot of ways disrespect her, etc

But sometimes he would be sweet to her and claim to care for her

In a situation where no one has your back this adult supposedly your husband claim that he cares for you

Because you are desperate for that care that no one else will give you . You believe him and Slowly you started have feeling for him.

But keep in mind you are still in your early 20's

You still have dependency on this person because you are still getting a degree and financially your dependent on somewhere emotionally too

But now as a grown adult women when you look back at that equation

Was it really love ..??

Or a sick form of Stockholm syndrome



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"Mujhe Virat Chavan me Dilchaspi na thi , na haii , na hogi"


I for once really hope that they really show more of this in this show where Sai talks about her feeling on her past marriage.

She was in a very vulnerable position and her husband who vowed to protect her , married her for this reason end up abusing her the most along with his family.

Grown men marrying young women who have lack of experience and emotional maturity so they can manipulate them, emotionally torture them ,abuse them is very normalize in our society

I think it's never to late to talk about these things

This is nice! ❤️ Thanks for tagging ❤️


I agree with all that you've said.


Sai was literally an 18 year old girl when she married Virat. What does a person even know at that age? I have an 18 year old cousin and i consider her as a kid. It's such a tender age where you barely know anything about relationships, about how the world functions

Sai was way too young when she married Virat and unfortunately when she lost her Aaba who was her only support she became vulnerable. Now in that vulnerable phase of hers she became a part of Virat's life. Virat was the only wall that she could lean against for support. She had no other support. Plus she was staying with a family who constantly abused her on a daily basis 💔


She knows only a love where she was attached to the partner. It was definitely love to the young Sai. But at this point when the mature adult Sai looks back, there are 2 truths about her old relationship :

1. She was very attached to him. It was love to her at that point in time.

2. The relationship was problematic to the core and this is an undeniable fact.


You can still be in a relationship with someone, you think you love them, and still the relationship can be problematic. This is where compatibility comes into play.

Sai might have loved Virat at that point but she was too young to understand the abuse and other things which were not okay in her relationship


Now that she is a grown up lady, if ever she decides to give it a go at another relationship, she'll definitely be able to see and feel the differences

I feel if the makers go the Anupama way and show Sai get over Virat completely, that will be truly revolutionary. They can show her getting over Virat in spite of all the the love that she had for him.

However like Anu Aunty, i don't think they will make Sai say "i mistook that for love when infact it wasn't love". They will never make her say this. Because this will show the character in a wrong light. Sai is known to be this righteous character so they won't show this righteous character talk about how she made a wrong decision and thought she loved the person but it wasn't love.

Having said that, they can and will most probably show her experiencing another type of love where she will notice the differences between her two relationships. I believe they'll hit the jackpot if they choose this route 😆 because revolutionary female leads are so in right now. Also majority of the audience doesn't want to see Sai with Virat because Virat has crossed all limits. They've butchered him beyond repair


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Posted: 2 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: badgarlriri

This makes me sooo sad

Now she is stuck with this man for life

Be it even as co parents she still have interact with him

This whole show was a torture p@@n

But what is disturbing is even after escaping this said realtionship the torture haven't stopped

It's soo sad brutal and disgusting

:(

Well, I am not sad because thankfully Sai is not a real person

The real issue IMO is how such content can be prevented from being on air

Particularly in India where women empowerment is abysmal..actually it's not appropriate anywhere

I have an issue with the way Sai-Virat's relationship is portrayed as destined-for-each-other..the glorification is problematic

Viewers did complain in large numbers to governing bodies like IBF but the outcome was zero despite the huge backlash

So the reality is..in India, TV channels hold such power & clout that no one can do anything about it

That is the sad part actually

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Posted: 2 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

There were two instances where Sai could have escaped this relationship.

First was during mirchi peesing kaand.

And the next was during Pulkit lunch kaand.

These two incidents Sai had strength & showed good resolve

After that, Sai went too deep into the relationship. She was young & vulnerable - with practically not a single supportive relationship.

This is the original Sai I'm talking about.


Since Shruthi track, none of the characters including Sai make sense. It's just mindless toxicity & torture p*rn.

even today she is subject to abuse by her ex and his wife.Post landmine she should not have returned..Those episodes just are random once to increase numbers..

I did not like when sai was asked why is she still staying with her ex in laws..Imagine both Saivi and vinu growing up hearing all these from their class fellows in school

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