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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Rosyme

New Male actor can be atleast as Sai s friend n hospital or something.

I had enjoyed Sai Pulkit scenes quite a bit intially when he was her professor. Sai had somebody to talk to and have lunch, tea etc. Those scenes were good before she know about his relationship with Devi.

Yes. Atleast a male friend who protects Sai and Savi.

Virat needs to go through the same insecurities he put Sai through...

As a husband he failed to understand her insecurities and fear of losing her child. There should be some incidents to make his understand where he missed out on being a husband.

Apart from love , trust is the most imp factor which SaiRat don't yet have. V has never done anything to allay Sai's fears rather his actions have made her more insecure.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

anil guy is PL ka bhakt. He has ridiculed Ayesha so many times. But he does that to rile up Twitter.


It took me a second to realize who y'all were talking about 🤣


Itni izzat se naam liya na.. 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago

These are my observations of the story and how it is being perceived by audience and why their viewing experience is ruined. 😲


As far as I understand the story, it is so close to real life marriage. There is love, there are expectations and heartbreak when they are not met. Especially when two good people with their own mind, who are equal partners come together there is bound to be friction. This is the story of any modern working couple where they live together in a joint family.


the good thing about both Sai and Virat is that they don’t change themselves at the core due to the other person. They are highly individualistic people. They have their own way of looking at things. Their actions never caused difficulties to others but while pursuing their choices they hurt each other. They fail to work as a team! And that’s how a couple in marriage eventually learn, to work as a team by understanding what the other ‘expects’ from them. For all other people they might be givers, but they become takers inside their relationship. It is impossible to behave the same with your spouse as you behave with others. Because of the ownership that you get over the person. That’s when you cross the boundaries of abuse.. emotional is easy to cross .

Sai for all her selflessness does expect virat to prioritize her! She expects her father kind of involvement in her life. Also not being his first choice, being younger to him which is identified as her immaturity by virat and hence it plays with her mind too! Living with Pakhi had aggravated her insecurities. She competes with pakhi subconsciously not knowing that Virat never compares them! Just imagine why she will not return to him when they lost the baby?! As nutty said, the fight would have resolved if virat had come to take her back in the bus station and assured about pakhi not involving with the baby. It is simple. But the way she was made to feel in this whole mess needs a deeper understanding of her fears and lack of trust on him. She sees him as a member of Chavan family, as a father who craved for the child, a husband who is mad at her but not as someone who finds meaning in her existence, that irrespective of everything he will still want her!

Virat who is so sensitive about others issues, their feelings and thoughts becomes utterly insensitive to sai’s. He expects her to understand him because he doesn’t cheat or they are good in bed!! For Sai kind of woman, it doesn’t matter unless you don’t give the respect and importance that she deserves in a relationship. Sai was constantly sidelined when he went and helped others . He never made her a partner in his actions! She was made to feel like the third person who gets all his affection but not the importance. For a person like sai this can be humiliating. She cannot tolerate it after some point and threatens to leave hoping that he will stop and show her what she is to him. That’s why when he stopped her by force and right after his bullet wound, she was elated. She needs that assurance that he needs her. Not just as a lover but confidante. Virat doesn’t understand this. And whenever she leaves him he feels she never wanted him as a romantic partner or husband. That she could leave him anytime she wants, even after being conjugal with him and bore his children. He doesn’t understand no amount of his love can fulfill the negligence she is meted out. She is leaving him not because she loves him any less, but she needs more respect to keep her tied to him and his toxic family. It is easy to not respect your wife in a marriage.

this is what KD is all about! It is how you communicate and understand what the other person in the marriage wants. I think this separation will bring that realization in both. That’s why pakhi was never an issue. Their own unresolved expectations was the issue. And this happens in every marriage. Leena brought this out very well. Rono craves physical relationship, not limited to only s*x. The fact that she stays with him, irrespective of circumstances gives him confidence and security. He feels threatened or disposable if she leave him. He doesnt understand no amount of physical love or affection or care can assure Emon of her place in his life. she wants a bigger role in his life. The need to feel that she is worthy of sharing his emotions, his promises to others. The respect that comes from prioritizing her in his every decision. Similarly, Virat should stop worrying that leaving him doesnt mean she loves him or desires him any less. That she can find another man in his place. Instead he needs to understand why she came back to him everytime, why she does so much to his family if he is nothing to her!!


I was going through post ujjanpur track sequences, and the first thing Rono asks Emon after they meet is to spend the night with him. He needs that assurance. Emon feels disappointed that he didnt ask her to come to the house but when he leaves the decision to her, not force her, accept that she has been hurt by his actions, then she herself will say she will stay with him. They kind of understand what each other wanted from them. Rono wants her to stay with him, and Emon wants him to consider her decisions in their life. I dont know how they will show all these here, but one thing the separation should do to Virat is to understand her value in his life. Going by that, he will NOT be mad at her. He lost her to death, not anything less. Sai will understand that, he might look happy and unbothered by her non existence but he will live a half life without her. That she completes him.


Having said all this, Vankar was unsuccessful in bringing these raw feelings in traslation. Not sure whether they can show a man like Rono to Hindi audience. May be showing him too amorous for his wife is offlimits?!. Rono is misunderstood as MCP in KD because he comes across as physically demanding...we forget that he was the man who was ready to let her go at one point of time. Vankar doesnt bring this side of Rono in Virat. His raw passion is lost in the softer Virat. The softer Virat confuses us when he behaves harshly with Sai. If you show his raw passion, then you understand when he accuses her of affair everytime she wants to leave him. You will see his insecurities, his reason to tie her down with a child. Sai is not so much lost in translation, but her jealous side, her fear of not being the most important person in his life is also lost. Emon fights with Rono wildly when she was sidelined by him. Here Sai is shown more enduring. Basically, their issues are lost and the focus shifts to third angle. Pakhi was just a conflict. She was there to highlight the real issues in SaiRat's marriage. Added to that, offscreen equations damages the plot beyond imagination.


NeilSha successfully enacted Sai and Virat till they accepted their marriage. They were so relatable. But After remarriage, their raw and uninhibited side which we see in a couple is not translated well. It is unfair to blame the actors when the makers are not ready to show the emotions properly. Moreover, the surrogacy track is viewed from offscreen equations making it the worst track to endure...atleast in this forum. If you remove this third angle and see, the story is still about SaiRat however badly they translated it.

So my request to forum people is to not bring offscreen equations here. Enjoy the plot for what it is! :)


Edited by sadiltl - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Offscreen equations ARE responsible for ruining a good plot so how can that be ignored. They took stiry of a couple with many valid isssues, insecurities, different personalities but still a couple who were good for eeach other, loved each other and had chemistry onscreen which audience loved and made it into a joke where one person is emotionally manipulated and abused and the other perpetrator is glorified. Why has this happened- because makers had to accommodate off screen nonsense into the plot. If pp had been made irrelevant for a while like KD did to RK, then the story would have been different and unlike KD, here it could have meant permanent end of PP and perhaps in future they'd had to bring a new FL altogether just for "drama" . But they didn't do that because unprofessional couple wouldn't allow it. Even If they had copied KD verbatim like they were doing before for a long time, we would have got a lot more "palatable" V and a very intense intimate Sairat. But they didn't even stay true to the original. Emon-Rono were way more passionate, intimate, had conversations about their insecurities- struggled to, but eventually they did. It wasn't without its crap but it never was toxic and lopsided in writing.

Ghum has been ruined to a large extent because NB has been off color in MANY crucial scenes, undue importance to pp even in importabt Sairat moments like remarriage and pregnancy journey and unprofessional couple making stupid makers dance to their tunes.

And the biggest thing keeping audience curious/interested is Sai and Ayesha's likeability and popularity and now these 2 cute kids. There has been hope for redemption of V at least due to kids in picture but if they ruin it then they have to shut shop. Its high time they do something drastic to make V palatable instead of even more cringe, insensitive and pathetic. It needs to start with an ultimatum to NB and wife to stop their tantrums. High time makers stop accommodating them and focused on the story. Sairat can still be the USP if they wake up and fix V. He needs a solid, long redemption arc.

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Posted: 3 years ago

I can understand it might be taxing for those who are sensitive might get stressed out reading here same theories repeatedly on every page about Virakhi stuffs. But having said that one shouldn't be too hopeful or optimistic about the show considering this ph & real life couple involved warna age jake tumhe hee heartbreak hoga. You don't wanna think negative fine but can't completely rule out the theory either. Even TRP audience aren't naive. They too know for sure Pakhi will always be entangled with Virat's life & connected to him through some way for sure, they've got an idea too seeing the leap promo with Sai's presumed death, not revealing anything about Pakhi so far in episodes or their equation, then Sai & V ending on a bad note that too again due to bailing P out despite her kaands getting exposed, they too won't get good vibes like us, no recollection of V for Sai.



I'm not being pessimistic but I'm expecting some major bomb getting dropped for sure if they show something indigestible for a change wrt Virat & Pakhi then good. I won't deny why most people think that way. They're bound to & right in their own right cus of this ph and real life couple.


But yeah if it's affecting people here then peeps should stop with their predictions until there's some revelation either in episodes or through spoilers.

Edited by mysticriver - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Btw I think the whole village will support Sai and call her, her family for the revenge of anaath jibe.

This can happen somewhere down in the future nA.


I want a replication of KD where villagers come to kill Ronno & Shruti for Imon and Imon came to their rescue and Ronno kept on provoking and stopping them by asking them to kill him. They'll not get this chance again, I cheated my wife, left her for another woman & having another family with her and her child, just kill me when they were leaving, it was to show Imon 🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago

Really nice write up👍🏼.

Agree with you about Sai and Virat not addressing their issues and having unspoken words and expectations from each other.

Also agree with you that this time Sai and Virat will come back together for themselves. After Sai finished her final exam, Virat did the diya visarjan symbolising the end of his responsibility given by KJ. But when Sai kept it alight. It didnt give me good feeling. Its like their marriage is still based on that responsibility, he is still the one who brought them back together. Now, they will reunite and look forward to their future, their kids, not what tied them in the past.

Thanks for the tag😊

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Posted: 3 years ago

Well said! People can believe whatever they want. But my suggestion is to not speculate anything that is out of context of the story. It will ruin your own viewing experience. In my opinion, the story still has so much to offer. With Pakhi present still, there might be growth in SaiRat. who knows!

Just like Virat being content now doesnt mean he has moved on, or Sai not wearing mangalsutra doesnt mean she doesnt consider him as her husband. There is a whole back story that established their love and conflict. If after separation, there is no growth then people will switch off. They will swtich off not because of offscreen equations, but because the story is stagnant/repetitive.

Till then, go with the flow now that there is some breather in the form of kids. Just not having CN drama itself makes it lot more viewable. Isnt it?

Edited by sadiltl - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver


I want a replication of KD where villagers come to kill Ronno & Shruti for Imon and Imon came to their rescue and Ronno kept on provoking and stopping them by asking them to kill him. They'll not get this chance again, I cheated my wife, left her for another woman & having another family with her and her child, just kill me when they were leaving, it was to show Imon 🤣


wow. so emotional

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Posted: 3 years ago


This was the episode.


At starting. Shruti literally was such a despicable character despite being shown in positive light 🤢


https://www.hotstar.com/1000213103


Worst was her last confession to Ronno before she passed out.

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