Utterly disheartened. - Page 4

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Hmm Asmi as you know, i am the one who is convinced totally of his love for Sai. So i am not going to talk about it. Him having recollections of sai or not doesnt matter to me as long as I can connect to his emotions.

But I do have reservations on how he is dealing with this situation especially his reason around staying in this house with Sruthi. If he wanted to help them, then let it come across like that. if they wanted to show, he doesnt have money to take another house as he lost his job, say it too. But that shirt scene comes from nowhere. It has no head or tail except to show that sruthi is invading his privacy and he is not interested. Why to show a supposedly strong woman like this? If she is clinging to him, as a woman who has seen so may emotional lows recently, show it explicitely. Even sruthi falling for him so soon without a strong reason like PP depression or her anxiety related to future would have made sense. Logical. Hence my question to you people whether something is shown to justify his stay with Sruthi.

Point is exactly that , whether he loves or not, if he cant maintain the distance it makes no sense, love or not. Again what Shruti does , she does, what was he doing there changing infront of her, its not like he went in or asked her to go out when she pointed the shirt is ulta. Which man, my husband or yours would be fine doing it infront of a friend's wife? One thing is to be caught off-guard and the other to actually do it. To any new viewer it would look like a banter between husband and wife when husband is a bit pissed off over something. What love and loyalty are we talking about here anyway?

All strong women Pakhi, Sai and Shruti have been butchered in order to elevate Virat. I keep mentioning it for a while. They made Pakhi go very low in the cafe scene, felt really uncomfortable as a woman watching it. They made her sniff his shirt, something that RK never did. RK felt she was betrayed emotionally and rightly so, because she never got a proper clsure, it was all sudden for her..

Him deciding to move in with Shruthi rather than letting his family know and move in Chavan's house is the most illogical thing ever. Also immoral. We discussed once that we will not accept him giving his name to Saahas without Sai's permission and we did think he has a plan up his sleeve. See here now he is in a house with another woman and comfortably changing clothes and we are still trying to find meanings and understanding his love for Sai.

What is the point now anyway , for not letting them know, so that sach sabke saamen aaye and they beg on his feet? Should she not end his parents, his wife's sufferings , let them know and then play the I will not forgive you all card?

ALso its not about recollections of Sai, its about not being bothered about her, her feelings, its about just letting Shruti know the negative aspects of Sai and not the positive ones at all. Bitching about the wife to another woman, you see it kind of gives them hope, it leads them on. Psychologically so much has been talked about it all. When women or men complain about their partners with others who are romantically interested in them, they indirectly lead them on, they give them hopes. He did it with Pakhi, he is doing it with Shruti.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Thank you for summing up the joke that is the script.

Forget Virat for the moment. Unlike the hug today, the shirt changing scene did not even serve the purpose of a MU because they were alone in the room. What is the point of this creativity? Is it lack of intellect on the part of the writers or are they actually trying to tell us that Virat doesn't maintain boundaries with women? What are we to assume from these contradictory dialogues and scenes? Is it to show that Virat enjoys the attentions of women or that he is slower than an amoeba or that ghum is taking place in an alternate universe where his actions are okay? Leena had sense. Whatever be Rono's shortcomings, he was whatever he was presented as to the audience. No confusion or contradictions. Just as I find it hard to believe that Virat didn't get Shruthi's feelings today, I find it hard to believe that ghum script is written by human beings; it's got to be a bot. 🤪

If writers want to say Virat enjoys the attention of women, then be consistent on that and don't make a maryada purushottam out of him. And if you actually want to show him as "one woman man" then don't make him come across as someone with questionable morals. Is that so hard? Ghosh, how are these guys no 3?

I have a different way of looking at things yaar. So not going to bring them in here as it is not correct time and space with this track :)

But yes as I said, there is a disconnect in some things so I was trying to understand. Virat giving his name to the kid, was legally incorrect and morally too because he was a husband to another woman and he did not take her consent. But the makers are not giving any logic around legality. So I stopped seeing Virat through that lens. I bought the explanation that the makers gave that Sruthi will be exempted from questioning about her ID if only she is presented as someone's wife. I took it as ground truth (even though it might not be correct in reality) and proceeded. Having said that, Virat staying with Sruthi is not shown strong motivation nor the shirt changing scene served any purpose. Just trying to connect things there. 🤔 from KD perspective.

I don't understand the 'why' of anything anymore. 😆

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I have a different way of looking at things yaar. So not going to bring them in here as it is not correct time and space with this track :)

But yes as I said, there is a disconnect in some things so I was trying to understand. Virat giving his name to the kid, was legally incorrect and morally too because he was a husband to another woman and he did not take her consent. But the makers are not giving any logic around legality. So I stopped seeing Virat through that lens. I bought the explanation that the makers gave that Sruthi will be exempted from questioning about her ID if only she is presented as someone's wife. I took it as ground truth (even though it might not be correct in reality) and proceeded. Having said that, Virat staying with Sruthi is not shown strong motivation nor the shirt changing scene served any purpose. Just trying to connect things there. 🤔 from KD perspective.

Okay but how does he coming across I am right , I have done nothing wrong and you will all regret not trusting me works here. Just because he says he loves Sai.

KD had a lot of logic in this track, from Shruthi being not a criminal, Shruthi hating her husbands job, to Emon being pregnant , to Rono maintaining a distance he should maintain with any other woman. He never crossed his physical boundaries with Shruti or emotional as well for that matter. He was not shielding a criminal but a criminal's wife, Virat here is shielding a criminal. There is no aspect here in Ghum as far as story and characters are concerned. They are just earing money because the show is doing well. bas.

U see the whole track is well planned to cash in from two shows.. If SaiRat unites then the new reality show will look cringe and audience will easily change the channel to watch rival naagin.. They are some what trying to hold the slot leader position with two shows.. They will keep SaiRat alive by filling it with dream sequence and few monologues..

Arjun fans are already disappointed because no promos for them. Winner is predecided ..hope arjun fans acts smarter

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I honestly dont get it at all, he knows Sai is sick and he shows zero consideration or even a thought on what happened to her, just those dialogues with Samrat and then done with it. He came back and told Shruti about being thrown out and not abt her being ill. He did not tell her how she sacrificed for him but has immense to tell that how his love is not reciprocated. He does not want to let Shruti go, even when she wants to go..just like he did not let Sai go in the name of Vaada...even though he has fulfilled his vaada.

What difference do you see see here emotionally from Virat's side towards Sai and Shruti.?

Physically he keeps flipping and honestly I think that is to make a point to the TRP audience, because if they dont give those dialogues he can be seen as a two timer by many.

@bold What they were trying to show through that scene is that Sai's opinion of him as a characterless guy in that hostel room scene affected him (that's what I gathered from watching the scene in KD). So Sai's fever may slip the mind. And that's ok IMO.

Not letting Shruthi go - they gave some weird reason of danger from police and Sada's men, don't know how much of it makes sense but chalo we'll take it with a mound of salt.

How he behaves with Shruthi is the real problem as far as the ickiness is concerned - the weird emotional and physical comfort he has with Shruthi. Chalo he was feeling laachaar so he confided his problems to a stranger - ok fine. But where are the boundaries bhaai? - in certain dialogues, in the lack of restraint, lack of formality while addressing her? In addition, Neil bungled it big time - and I don't think he realizes it - director is also not bothered. And the biggest red flag - he himself asks if he could stay with Shruthi while he searches for another apartment. He can't stay in a hotel? He is some helpless damsel-in-distress? Came across as looking for company...and that's bad news.

Why not copy Rono's actions as it is? Showing Virat holding Shruthi's hand, helping her in the bed - that's not the mark of an emotional or caring man, which is what I suspect the writers were aiming for. Emotional people take decisions based on their emotions, sensitive or altruistic people take effort to make sure a person receives good care - none of them cross boundaries like this.

I just got an information that the script is written by this person:-

I fear we are too dumb for their sophisticated intellect.😒

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

@bold What they were trying to show through that scene is that Sai's opinion of him as a characterless guy in that hostel room scene affected him (that's what I gathered from watching the scene in KD). So Sai's fever may slip the mind. And that's ok IMO.

Not letting Shruthi go - they gave some weird reason of danger from police and Sada's men, don't know how much of it makes sense but chalo we'll take it with a mound of salt.

How he behaves with Shruthi is the real problem as far as the ickiness is concerned - the weird emotional and physical comfort he has with Shruthi. Chalo he was feeling laachaar so he confided his problems to a stranger - ok fine. But where are the boundaries bhaai? - in certain dialogues, in the lack of restraint, lack of formality while addressing her? In addition, Neil bungled it big time - and I don't think he realizes it - director is also not bothered. And the biggest red flag - he himself asks if he could stay with Shruthi while he searches for another apartment. He can't stay in a hotel? He is some helpless damsel-in-distress? Came across as looking for company...and that's bad news.

Why not copy Rono's actions as it is? Showing Virat holding Shruthi's hand, helping her in the bed - that's not the mark of an emotional or caring man, which is what I suspect the writers were aiming for.🤪 Emotional people take decisions based on their emotions, caring or altruistic people take effort to make sure a person receives good care - none of them cross boundaries like this. All emotional and sensitive people should file a defamation case against them.😛

I just got an information that the script is written by this person:-

I fear we are too dumb for their sophisticated intellect.😒

Your narration so apt 🤣

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Okay but how does he coming across I am right , I have done nothing wrong and you will all regret not trusting me works here. Just because he says he loves Sai.

KD had a lot of logic in this track, from Shruthi being not a criminal, Shruthi hating her husbands job, to Emon being pregnant , to Rono maintaining a distance he should maintain with any other woman. He never crossed his physical boundaries with Shruti or emotional as well for that matter. He was not shielding a criminal but a criminal's wife, Virat here is shielding a criminal. There is no aspect here in Ghum as far as story and characters are concerned. They are just earing money because the show is doing well. bas.

Haven't figured out why Shruthi was changed from a civilian to a Naxal. This is called digging one's own grave. Police may be after her suspecting that she is also a naxal - so he protects her since she is heavily pregnant. So why this brainless change?

And another gem from writers - in the beginning she was as passionate as Sada on their maksad, in the hospital Shruthi was remembering how even through all the hardships of jungle life, she was happy because she had Sada's love. And few months later, Sada was too busy with his activities to care about his wife and unborn child. 🤪

Rono did maintain boundaries - but he also stayed with Shruthi - could not understand the dialogues as to why.

Not that he enjoyed the hug or anything but his logic to say he was supporting her was so ridiculous. So he'll go on consoling giving his shoulder to every random distressed women cry on? And they should've shown him getting pissed at Shruti cus of this he's misunderstanding him or doesn't he have brain to see Shruti had no reaction seeing Sada alive?

He had much better reaction when he noticed Sai saw Virakhi holding hands together in the cafe episode.