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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Stardust91

Somewhere I agree with this; however I have learnt to sift through things and literally ignore what I do not want to read and only read what I want to and interact with whoever I want to, whenever I want to.

I have my own opinion on most characters and everything else and that will not change regardless of whatever essays or pages are written from whichever side.

I wasn’t sure whether to click on love emotion or laughing emotion seeing the bold part .
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I wasn’t sure whether to click on love emotion or laughing emotion seeing the bold part .

I m just saying what I really feel...I honestly have no malice against anyone...everyone's opinions are their own and are perhaps a result of their experiences. However, I am not going to spend my time reading the same thing said in 6373728292 different ways in essays that are IN MY VIEW only one side of the SAME coin.

I am tired.. I want to enjoy this show and I came to IF to have fun...not to write a PhD thesis on my personal favourite character although it's quite possible considering the characterisation.

I wonder if I was to apply to a university to do a PhD in film and television studies, would I get funding to research my favourite character in Ghum?

Can you imagine calling Star Plus and Vanku and being like, guys I am doing a PhD and I need information on this character. Vanku would burst with happiness that someone in a university in a G7 country was researching a character written by him.

Or actually naaahhhh...maybe Billu will be better to research....I mean at least he won't ask me who the hell I am....

Anyways I digress. .....

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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Athiraachu

Truth is truth...his truth and her truth...virat knows everything...but he has never been honest...he has tied his brother to a psycho woman by hiding every truth from his brother...so how will he wash hands now..very convenient...did virat give samrat the choice ? Did he tell samrat truth ? Did he have any remorse ? He gave pakhi too much leniency before...and now it's the end result...


I really wish Virat would stop trying to play match-maker between his brother and his deewani pakhi. How on earth has it not occurred to him that he is doing wrong by his brother by trying to convince pakhi to live as samrat's wife even despite knowing she has no interest in samrat but only in him? Even after this cafe convo he will still continue to advocate for samrat-pakhi pairing and it's just ridiculous. He is not doing his brother any favours by forcing pakhi on to him. Does he really think that it will make him a great brother by setting his brother up with a girl like pakhi? It's not fair that even now virat is refusing to be truthful to samrat about pakhi's intentions and desires and just pushing the idea that pakhi is ideal for samrat. It's insanity.


Samrat deserves to have all the facts about pakhi out on the table in front of him so he can make the best decision for himself, not his little brother going behind his back and making all his life decisions for him, and worst thing is that virat is repeating the exact same mistake again for the second time by not telling everyone that pakhi loves him and is not interested in samrat but still maintaining this façade that pakhi is ready to be samrat's wife.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Samrat Pakhi decided to marry even before Virat came to attend their marriage. He didn’t force anyone at gun point to marry . Pakhi married for her selfish reason and Samrat ignored all the red flags in their relationship before marriage. Why is it Virat responsibility to tell the truth when his brother is least interested in hearing his side . His brother is ready to talk to his wife so let her talk about her real feelings. His brother has blamed Virat alone and is ready to give his wife a chance to move on . Before declaring that he should have understood what she wants . High time the couple take some responsibility in life


Samrat Pakhi took wedding vows so it’s on them to respect it and understand each other . Virat is not responsible for them .

Seriously you can make all the excuses in the world for Virat and put the blame on others but one thing won’t change. If Virat hasn’t made that stupid promise to Pakhi and in return didn’t ask her to marry his brother NO ONE would be in this situation today. If Virat didn’t want Pakhi he could’ve just tell her to move on. He had no right to give her promises so she can get married to Samrat. Virat single-handledly ruined his life, Sai, and Samrat. Stop conveniently forgetting that Pakhi married Samrat because Virat gave her a stupid promise.


And yes his brother had every right to know that Pakhi is Virat’s EX especially after knowing Pakhi wants to cancel the wedding and be with Virat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Samrat Pakhi decided to marry even before Virat came to attend their marriage. He didn’t force anyone at gun point to marry . Pakhi married for her selfish reason and Samrat ignored all the red flags in their relationship before marriage. Why is it Virat responsibility to tell the truth when his brother is least interested in hearing his side . His brother is ready to talk to his wife so let her talk about her real feelings. His brother has blamed Virat alone and is ready to give his wife a chance to move on . Before declaring that he should have understood what she wants . High time the couple take some responsibility in life


Samrat Pakhi took wedding vows so it’s on them to respect it and understand each other . Virat is not responsible for them .


Virat and samrat are brothers and who have had a strong friendship since childhood. He did not force anybody at gun point, but he did influence both pakhi and samrat's decisions by withholding truth from samrat whilst convincing pakhi to marry samrat. He is not responsible for pakhi;s life as she is nothing to him, but he is responsible for his brother from whom he hides the truth and who he has a duty to be honest with.


How long did samrat know pakhi before he married her to know that there was someone else in her life all by himself? Not much, but even then he had asked her on one occasion as he sensed something off with her mood but she completely denied so anybody in his place would have took her word for it. But virat had gotten to know the truth about pakhi being samrat's to-be wife on their haldi day, and he had time to tell samrat the truth between haldi and the wedding day, but he didn't. Instead he found time to convince pakhi to be part of his sacrifice for his brother.

Even then I can give virat the benefit of the doubt that he did not want to hurt his brother by going to him and telling him that the girl who he is about to marry loves his brother etc, so okay it is fine if the first time around he did not tell samrat before wedding about pakhi-virat, but bare minimum he should not have convinced pakhi either to marry samrat with that promise. He could have just said to pakhi that he cannot tell his family about her and him and neither can he marry her at the cost of his brother's and family's feelings, so whatever decision she wants to take, she can take knowing he will not marry her, regardless of whether she chooses to marry his brother or not. So even if he chose to not tell samrat the truth, he should have left pakhi to make her own decision about what she wants to do now that he refuses to marry her to break his brother's heart.


But given that he did influence her decision, and he has seen the consequences of that mistake, it is his responsibility now as a brother that he tells samrat that pakhi still is not ready to accept samrat as husband and still loves virat so that his brother does not ruin his life by making a wrong decision without knowing all the facts.


Pakhi cannot put all the onus of the decisions she took on virat, but samrat does have a right to blame virat as samrat and virat are brothers and virat should not be hiding the truth from him at least now that samrat is deciding to divorce pakhi, but yet again virat is trying to influence pakhi-samrat's situation by convincing pakhi to stay with samrat and again we all know predictably virat will still not tell samrat that pakhi's full intentions are only to divorce samrat and get with virat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Virat didn’t do anything wrong . He was at a public place and I agree he needs to clarify to the concerned people and he will do that infront of the family. Why should he clarify to a deal wife


Yeah it made sense virat did not try and clarify with sai as it really was not the place, especially with sai's awfully smug friends there enjoying it all who didn't seem to care a damn to think that sai must be hurt and feeling cheated, but they were instead getting drama from it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beautyful_Mess

Seriously you can make all the excuses in the world for Virat and put the blame on others but one thing won’t change. If Virat hasn’t made that stupid promise to Pakhi and in return didn’t ask her to marry his brother NO ONE would be in this situation today. If Virat didn’t want Pakhi he could’ve just tell her to move on. He had no right to give her promises so she can get married to Samrat. Virat single-handledly ruined his life, Sai, and Samrat. Stop conveniently forgetting that Pakhi married Samrat because Virat gave her a stupid promise.


And yes his brother had every right to know that Pakhi is Virat’s EX especially after knowing Pakhi wants to cancel the wedding and be with Virat.


I blame virat for his stupid decision of convincing pakhi to marry samrat and hiding truth from samrat, but I don't blame him for pakhi deciding to marry samrat on the basis of virat's promise. Pakhi's acceptance of it is her own stupidity as virat never put a gun to her head.... she was just being a despo lol so she ruined her own life out of her desperation. And yeah I agree he is responsible for cheating his brother by making decisions for samrat's life without telling him the truth. He will do the same thing again now that samrat is deciding to divorce pakhi by hiding from him the entire content of the cafe convo between him and pakhi.


Virat is not responsible for any of pakhi's misery as that is all her own doing, but he is responsible for forcing the wrong girl into sam's life and hiding truth from him. So virat is samrat's wrongdoer only.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beautyful_Mess

Seriously you can make all the excuses in the world for Virat and put the blame on others but one thing won’t change. If Virat hasn’t made that stupid promise to Pakhi and in return didn’t ask her to marry his brother NO ONE would be in this situation today. If Virat didn’t want Pakhi he could’ve just tell her to move on. He had no right to give her promises so she can get married to Samrat. Virat single-handledly ruined his life, Sai, and Samrat. Stop conveniently forgetting that Pakhi married Samrat because Virat gave her a stupid promise.


And yes his brother had every right to know that Pakhi is Virat’s EX especially after knowing Pakhi wants to cancel the wedding and be with Virat.

Tomorrow Virat will promise something if Pakhi jumps into a well . If she does that then it’s Pakhi’s stupidity and nothing else . The fact doesn’t change that Pakhi , Samrat and Sai are adults and are responsible for their decision . If they get carried away or get influenced then it’s their problem period . They lack firm mind .


Since Pakhi doesn’t have mind of her own and blindly follow Virat .. why doesn’t she do it this time too and move on with Samrat instead of begging him to accept her . Since Samrat doesn’t have the ability to understand that the girl he was marrying and ignored all the red flags . He should listen to what Virat is trying to say instead of showing attitude .

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17


I blame virat for his stupid decision of convincing pakhi to marry samrat and hiding truth from samrat, but I don't blame him for pakhi deciding to marry samrat on the basis of virat's promise. Pakhi's acceptance of it is her own stupidity as virat never put a gun to her head.... she was just being a despo lol so she ruined her own life out of her desperation. And yeah I agree he is responsible for cheating his brother by making decisions for samrat's life without telling him the truth. He will do the same thing again now that samrat is deciding to divorce pakhi by hiding from him the entire content of the cafe convo between him and pakhi.


Virat is not responsible for any of pakhi's misery as that is all her own doing, but he is responsible for forcing the wrong girl into sam's life and hiding truth from him. So virat is samrat's wrongdoer only.

I don’t blame Virat for Pakhi, everything wrong with Pakhi’s life is only and only her fault. She could’ve walked away from Virat’s stupid promise and move on with her life. She had the choice that neither Sai nor Samrat did but she refused to take it.


Bold: Yes I very much blame him for what he did to Samrat and is still doing to him. Pakhi has CLEARLY stated to Virat that she wants nothing to do with Samrat and is very much still in love (read obsessed) with him in the last episode. There’s no marriage to save between Samrat and Pakhi and what Virat is doing is cheating his brother by withholding the fact that his brother’s wife loves/obsessed with him. 😵 He shouldn’t try to conceal the truth so their nonexistent marriage can survive. He has been gullible from the start and he’s still very much the same. His mind just doesn’t work as well as we expect of him.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Tomorrow Virat will promise something if Pakhi jumps into a well . If she does that then it’s Pakhi’s stupidity and nothing else . The fact doesn’t change that Pakhi , Samrat and Sai are adults and are responsible for their decision . If they get carried away or get influenced then it’s their problem period . They lack firm mind .

Since Pakhi doesn’t have mind of her own and blindly follow Virat .. why doesn’t she do it this time too and move on with Samrat instead of begging him to accept her . Since Samrat doesn’t have the ability to understand that the girl he was marrying and ignored all the red flags . He should listen to what Virat is trying to say instead of showing attitude .



I somehow can’t quote you so I’m posting and a reply to this here.


Bold: I never said anything about Pakhi listening to Virat or not, she can do whatever Virat tells her for all I care. What I’m saying is you can’t excuse Virat and blame others for his fault. Relationships come with great responsibilities and expectations. Virat as a brother had the responsibility to tell Samrat that Pakhi is HIS EX. He did wrong him by not disclosing this information also he did speak on his behalf and begged Pakhi to marry Samrat. What he needed to do was tell the guy everything and let HIM decide if he wanted to go ahead with the marriage or not. Virat did the opposite and decided on behalf of his brother. He’s still cheating and wronging his brother by trying to “save” his marriage by withholding the fact that Pakhi WANTS Virat and Virat only. Even friends expect this much from one another family is even closer toh is a must do. If my better half is willing to cheat on me with my sibling I would want to know, anyone would want to know. It’s Virat responsibility to tell him the truth. Pakhi asked him to meet and proposed they run away together and divorce their respective spouses. 😆 What kind of a brother still keeps this to himself and also pushes the same psycho person to the brother?? A bad or a very dumb brother indeed. Virat jaisa bhai god kaisi ko na de. 🥺

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