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Posted: 4 years ago
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Sai kam se kam do dhai kitaab toh padthi hai. Yeh na books padta hai, na logon ko.

I am sorry to say that I have always been disappointed with him in this regards.


If he had to, he would have already. If he didn't, then he will have to learn his lessons and that day, I won't feel sorry for Virat.

If he did and trying to ignore it is wrong.

Trying to ignore her thoughts, her advances for any reason is wrong. She stays in CN or not, whether he promised or her not, brother's wife or not, he has been encouraging her thoughts indirectly and hence wrong.


He is married and so is she. She is married to his brother. I have always been confused, though I have been surprised with his statements. I was confused if I should be happy or angry with him. I have had a mixed feeling about it.


"Tumhaari sacchai kya hai, mujhe nahi pata, yeh meri sacchai hai."


What does it mean? That you doubt she could have something in her mind? You have a doubt that she hasn't come out of her past? Or what is it?


"Mein aur Sai pati patni hai, humarey rishtey ka izzat karna seekho, ACCEPT kar lo"


I understand, "ACCEPT" karlo, though sounded too good, raises a lot of questions in my mind.


He thinks she is not able to accept it, is fair enough. Does he think she isn't doing it because of waada or because of their past?

And if it is their past, he is referring to, then even if his intentions are right, he shouldn't have ever spoken to Pakhi the way he has been. He shouldn't have said, chalo Pakhi tum Samrat ke baare mein kuch baat karna chahthi thi na and take her out to go and talk.


Just like how I am having a mixed feeling about his understanding of Pakhi, looks like he too is having it. If he has it, he shouldn't barge to her room even to complain about Sai in his jealousy. He wouldn't look at his mom and Pakhi shocked, when his mom said, that he need not be having his food in her room.


These mixed feelings of whether he knows about her thoughts or not has been there since long, not only when he uttered these dialogues, from his expressions and many things that he spoke in past. Even on the day of admission, he said, no one should have a problem if me and Sai spend time together and looked at Pakhi. That day, I really liked it and he did draw a line. He wasn't to be blamed for her mistakes and advances. Especially those days, he was very clear. Would have been good if he continued to be that way.


The night after Amay's incident, he was too emotional, but please, a simple statement, leave me and my wife alone would do. Even if she means that she will pack her suitcase, let it be. If he has so many expectations from his wife, that he had just expressed in anger, he then should also know how to build a foundation in that relationship. Asking a 3rd person to stay out of it, just the way he did to Bua or Aai earlier.


And do you know the most hated dialogue by Virat for me?

"Do dhai books padne se kuch nahi hota hai, logon ko padhna aana chahiye." This is why I started with that statement too.


I hardly use 18year old tag for Sai. Use it when she was broken after her Dad's death, not to justify her behavior, but to feel her pain, her grief.

In this case again, I am using it. Dude, she is 18 years old and you expect her to be able to read people, you are 28 or 29, and you don't even know to read people? Read the person who keeps roaming around you like a bee roams around a flower? I am supposed to look at it and ignore it as a flaw in him? Look at him as an innocent guy? Just let it go because he is loyal to his wife?

He is in police and his senses would be alert in every way.


Grow up dude, first understand who are friends and how to make friendship. I understand his waada, his motive behind making her a friend, his guilt but I will never be able to understand or approve if he continues to befriend her if he has an inkling of what is in her mind.


I have looked at it in two ways. It is not like I did not give him a chance. I did. This is how I had tried to understand him, but even then, not quite convincing.

He has accepted her as his friend. Friend is someone whom we would extend support under any circumstances. May be, he thinks that he should help her come out of the past being a friend. He thinks that it is the duty of the friend to stand by her even if she was developing an obsession, to stand by her and help her in making her face the reality that he is married.


Another way to look at it, I have promised to be her friend, I have already broken my other promise, cannot afford to or will not break this way. Or that he has not even thought, just doing it all in a flow, naturally continuing to consider her as a friend because he has made her his friend, ignoring her thoughts and her state (unable to move on from the past).


I have no issues with his friendship with Pakhi because I never can even think or doubt Virat's intentions or loyalty. Till date, I have never done that. But, there is only so much a person should do and when needed, lines have to be drawn or even relationship should be broken. He can become her friends later.


In real life, there are many I know of, who have had this issue of ex and then becoming friends, when they notice the ex hasn't moved on or not able to move on or still thinking about them and pursuing them, they end their friendship. Not exactly end, it is like making them face the reality. That is also friendship, their duty. By ending it, they are still being a friend showing them the right path when it is needed. Otherwise, there is no stopping, this is exactly what is happening in case of Virat and Pakhi. There is no stopping Pakhi.


And in real life, when they see their ex has actually moved on or they are not trying to pursue them, they start moving with them and start to extend support as a friend.

It might look like it is too early for Virat, nevertheless, he could have and should be doing it. Please let's not even bring the tag that he is an emotional, kind hearted person.


Emotional and kind hearted person should also know how to be stern, really really stern and if it is needed to be harsh, have to be harsh. He would be doing good, not for him, but to Pakhi. And being a friend, he should do this for her. He is not the lone supporter of Pakhi. Pakhi is not all alone in the world. If she would leave the house, so be it. If he has to answer his brother, face it and answer it.


I am not sure if I even answered your question or if this is what your question was, I started to write and then wrote and wrote 🤣🤣.


There are a few qualities in Virat, which I do not like and won't support him in it, just like how I wouldn't support Sai in all her actions. We want to play fair, play fair. Point out and accept all the qualities in a character, good or bad, rightful ones or flaws of the characters, favourite or not.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I just added another bit in it, don't miss that part. I have spoken about Amays incident 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

I just added another bit in it, don't miss that part. I have spoken about Amays incident 🤣

Damn ,you are fab at this. Mujhe laga maine essay ka topic post kiya hai.😆But beautiful analysis👏

Agreed with all your points, gunaah karna hi nahi,gunaah sehna bhi sahi nahi hai. And IPS should know this.

As you said ,he himself thinks she is stuck at a point and is not ready to move ,so as a friend he should make her move on, or discover the reason(I feel he knows it,but still) why she is not able to move on and enlighten her to the reality. But ,Virat's actions have somewhere or the other supported didi's imaginary world she has built around herself. He is not understanding that both the woman in his life are triggered not because of the other woman which they think is in their life,but it is beacuse of him somewhere or the other.

This much naiveness and confusion is not good, I said yesterday in another post, pure gold has value, but it cannot survive, it has to be contaminated as an ore if yiu need jewellery from it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The doubt is there in his mind, he is very well aware. Its just that he does not dwell on it and thinks too much.

Currently, if you see his actions and reactions are limited to Sai.

I liked the scene today when vahini was talking nonsense, all he had was his back to her. He did not even turn around once (good direction). Also his dialogue was note worthy, had it been only about me then i might given in but its about my sister, that's what changes everything.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

Sometimes I feel virat already know but he hesitate saying this in order not to insult her as he think she will start her drama of leaving house or maybe it his assumption but when he will speak up when she will try to cross d limit with him .


I agree with this, he just lets it be until she does not cross her line.


Not sure if you have watched the original, i dont understand the language so cannot watch. But isnt there a scene between Vahini and Virat, when Sai is outside the house. I mean what Vahini was waiting her to leave the room so that she gets access to it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Damn ,you are fab at this. Mujhe laga maine essay ka topic post kiya hai.😆But beautiful analysis👏

Bahut lamba ho gaya tha kya 🤣


Agreed with all your points, gunaah karna hi nahi,gunaah sehna bhi sahi nahi hai. And IPS should know this.

Exactly, kanoon mein ho ya na ho, itna toh har koi jaanta hai. Pakhi gunah nahi kar rahi hai ya thi, uski galtiyon ko nazar andaaz karta raha, yeh galtiyaan kab gunah ban jayegi, pata bhi nahi chalega.


As you said ,he himself thinks she is stuck at a point and is not ready to move ,so as a friend he should make her move on, or discover the reason(I feel he knows it,but still) why she is not able to move on and enlighten her to the reality.

He knows why she is not able to move on if he thinks she hasn't moved on. He told her on the alta day that she hardly spent time with Samrat and once he returns things will become fine. He started off the conversation, thinking she is feeling lonely and left out but he later realised from her reply, that she is mainly hurt with him moving on with Sai and that Samrat doesn't matter to her at all.


But ,Virat's actions have somewhere or the other supported didi's imaginary world she has built around herself.

Yes, everytime our intentions being in the right place alone isn't enough, our actions should be in line with the demanding situation.


He is not understanding that both the woman in his life are triggered not because of the other woman which they think is in their life,but it is beacuse of him somewhere or the other.

I don't know what you mean by this. He is doing certain things time and again, to let Pakhi know who she is to him. But yes, that alone isn't enough. My only problem is that Virat thinks, that it is not okay for Pakhi to leave the house and she is their responsibility. If Pakhi was not his friend and if he had no guilt, would he have still asked Pakhi to stay back? There are many bahus who would return to their maayka in a situation like this. Why should one hold them in sasuraal? It is not like the bahu is divorcing. Even if they do, shouldn't it be the girl's choice and her parent's choice? It made sense in the initial days, wouldn't be in future. Kaku had a reason, the pension, otherwise, I don't see why anyone should convince her or force her to be the bahu of this house.

The day he went to meet her at her parent's place, she looked fine, I mean, was just doing yoga and he also noticed how her parents were supporting her. It is not like she was broken or didn't wish to live or anything 🤷‍♀️. He called her that day because he felt it was because of him and Sai, she left, that is okay. But that is enough. People who does tasks in guilt always end up doing wrong things or things that they need not be. It doesn't make them good, it only can make them wrong.


This much naiveness and confusion is not good,

Exactly

I said yesterday in another post, pure gold has value, but it cannot survive, it has to be contaminated as an ore if yiu need jewellery from it.

😆 very true Shristhi. The house he grew up and his elders cannot be an excuse always. Certain traits, we should correct on our own. If Sai's actions has consequences, so will his actions be too. Both are learning it the hard way.


Replied in green dear. Accha topic tha, I don't feel like creating any serious topic these days. The forum is not in a good mood and people are all upset either with Virat or with Sai. So I refrain from creating one 😣😆.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

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A bit more formal way, Mrs.Salunkhe😆


You don't have to go to that extent.

Just calling her Patralekha is enough 🤣🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: notaquitter

Then the doubt should have already come. She has given out so many contradictions during the Ladakh trip, even aai questioned her during Maharshivratri about why she created drama when Sai wanted to join. So many instances her action indicated that and he didn’t doubt it.


He has always been in his limits except for taking her words for truth. Which he does because he feels STILL feels she is mature and cares for his family.


Your last line cracked me up 🤣🤣

Virat should purge the dictionary in his head and build it from scratch again 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Expecting so much from Virat. 😆 What I think is that Virat is maintaining one sided friendship. He f**ng doesn't care what's in Pakhi's mind. Remember that day when he said Sai thinks he loves her. The way Pakhi got happy. A normal guy would have seen her happiness or expectations but Raja Babu didn't. 😳 Instead he said "I don't know about your feelings but for me you are just my brother's wife and a good friend of mine". So he doesn't care about her intentions, he wants to maintain the friendship from his side. And so far Pakhi didn't harass him so he can't even go away from her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Yep have seen in crime patrol. But ,Virat is a damn loyal guy and he will be emotionally vulnerable as well. So he might not step back. Beizzati confirmed hai😈


You are watching crime patrol. Virat would have watched it live right, in his duty? 🤣

I didn't want to add it in my reply and divert the topic.

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