Virat without Sai

Heyy Guyyss!!!

So I have been watching the old episodes, and yesterday I was watching the fight after Amey's arrest. So there is a dialogue of Patralekha, where she asks Virat ki Sai se shaadi karne ka decision lete samay tumne apne baare mein bilkul bhi nahi socha (something along those lines only).

Now, personally I believe that though Virat was a bit attracted to her, when he decided of marrying Sai, it was purely because he felt it was his Zimmedari. He had absolutely no ulterior motives, nor was it because of Villagers' pressure or because of guilt.

But I was thinking, did Virat think about himself at all when promising Pakhi to remain single his whole life? Was it not a promise given without thinking of himself, only by thinking about Samrat? That too not haven thought properly?

Lets for a bit imagine if Virat had never met Sai, never ever posted to GC. And lets also imagine Samrat never found out the truth at their wedding night.

What would have happened?

I think all of us would agree that Pakhi would definitely use Samrat to make Virat jealous. Samrat, at least at first, would have been living a lie. He is hurt and MIA now in reality, but I think its better to be sad after knowing the truth than living in fake happiness (not everyone has to agree with me). But at the same time, I think eventually Samrat would have found out the truth, even if he hadn't heard Pakhi confess. Because we have seen that Samrat is a very perceptive guy. He kept asking Patralekha if everything was okay, he had sensed something is not right. He also sensed that Virat is sad becasue of something. Eventually, he would have put two and two together. So I think the rift Pakhi has caused between Samrat and Virat now, would have actually been deeper then. There would have been a greater sense of betrayal to Samrat from both Pakhi and Virat had he lived in the lie any longer than he already did.

This also makes me think Samrat understands Virat more than Virat understands Samrat. Samrat tells Virat before his sangeet that Virat can tell him anything, yet Virat does not. Because Virat does not understand that Samrat can never be happy knowing his brother is not. Virat when giving vaada, was thinking of Samrat's happiness, yet not understanding Samrat.

Pakhi is obsessed with Virat now, she would have been then as well. She keeps guilt tripping Virat now, she would have then. She doesn't care about Samrat now, she wouldn't have then. Only difference would have been that now her main motive is downfall of Sai, it wouldn't be that way because there would have been no Sai.

But what about Virat? He was posted to GC, dealing with Sai's problems on a personal level, hence occupied. If that wouldn't have happened, how painful would it have been for Virat? For him to be sad, but put up a front for Samrat and family. How tiresome and toxic would have it been for him? Although, even if there had been no Sai, I think he would have moved on. He is so embarrassed of having had feelings for his Vahini now, he would have been then as well. But Pakhi's guilt tripping would actually work then. No matter how much Bhawani and Ashwini would have pushed him for it, vaada's guilt would not have let him marry somebody else. Because there would have been no motivation for breaking vaada, that actually came in the form of Sai. In Sai's case, he felt compelled, but he wouldn't have otherwise. He would have gotten rid of the feelings, yes.

But would he have ever moved on from the guilt of vaada to actually fall in love again and get married to someone else and embrace his happiness? What do you guys think?

During that fight after Vithal had filed complaint, he says "Jaldbaazi mein kiye gaye faisle, insaan ko zindagi bhar ka dukh de dete hain, ye baat mujhe Gadhchiroli jaa kar samajh aayi."

Would he have realized that his vaada given to Pakhi in haste and no thought for himself would become his biggest regret had there been no Sai?

When Sai came to CN first day and Ashwini while feeding her said that Virat never thinks about himself, Virat always thinks about others.

Do you guys agree that now its high time Virat realizes he has to think for himself as well?

Do drop in you views and opinions, would love to read them.

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

Heyy Guyyss!!!

So I have been watching the old episodes, and yesterday I was watching the fight after Amey's arrest. So there is a dialogue of Patralekha, where she asks Virat ki Sai se shaadi karne ka decision lete samay tumne apne baare mein bilkul bhi nahi socha (something along those lines only).

Now, personally I believe that though Virat was a bit attracted to her, when he decided of marrying Sai, it was purely because he felt it was his Zimmedari. He had absolutely no ulterior motives, nor was it because of Villagers' pressure or because of guilt.

But I was thinking, did Virat think about himself at all when promising Pakhi to remain single his whole life? Was it not a promise given without thinking of himself, only by thinking about Samrat? That too not haven thought properly?

Lets for a bit imagine if Virat had never met Sai, never ever posted to GC. And lets also imagine Samrat never found out the truth at their wedding night.

What would have happened?

I think all of us would agree that Pakhi would definitely use Samrat to make Virat jealous. Samrat, at least at first, would have been living a lie. He is hurt and MIA now in reality, but I think its better to be sad after knowing the truth than living in fake happiness (not everyone has to agree with me). But at the same time, I think eventually Samrat would have found out the truth, even if he hadn't heard Pakhi confess. Because we have seen that Samrat is a very perceptive guy. He kept asking Patralekha if everything was okay, he had sensed something is not right. He also sensed that Virat is sad becasue of something. Eventually, he would have put two and two together. So I think the rift Pakhi has caused between Samrat and Virat now, would have actually been deeper then. There would have been a greater sense of betrayal to Samrat from both Pakhi and Virat had he lived in the lie any longer than he already did.

This also makes me think Samrat understands Virat more than Virat understands Samrat. Samrat tells Virat before his sangeet that Virat can tell him anything, yet Virat does not. Because Virat does not understand that Samrat can never be happy knowing his brother is not. Virat when giving vaada, was thinking of Samrat's happiness, yet not understanding Samrat.

Pakhi is obsessed with Virat now, she would have been then as well. She keeps guilt tripping Virat now, she would have then. She doesn't care about Samrat now, she wouldn't have then. Only difference would have been that now her main motive is downfall of Sai, it wouldn't be that way because there would have been no Sai.

But what about Virat? He was posted to GC, dealing with Sai's problems on a personal level, hence occupied. If that wouldn't have happened, how painful would it have been for Virat? For him to be sad, but put up a front for Samrat and family. How tiresome and toxic would have it been for him? Although, even if there had been no Sai, I think he would have moved on. He is so embarrassed of having had feelings for his Vahini now, he would have been then as well. But Pakhi's guilt tripping would actually work then. No matter how much Bhawani and Ashwini would have pushed him for it, vaada's guilt would not have let him marry somebody else. Because there would have been no motivation for breaking vaada, that actually came in the form of Sai. In Sai's case, he felt compelled, but he wouldn't have otherwise. He would have gotten rid of the feelings, yes.

But would he have ever moved on from the guilt of vaada to actually fall in love again and get married to someone else and embrace his happiness? What do you guys think?

During that fight after Vithal had filed complaint, he says "Jaldbaazi mein kiye gaye faisle, insaan ko zindagi bhar ka dukh de dete hain, ye baat mujhe Gadhchiroli jaa kar samajh aayi."

Would he have realized that his vaada given to Pakhi in haste and no thought for himself would become his biggest regret had there been no Sai?

When Sai came to CN first day and Ashwini while feeding her said that Virat never thinks about himself, Virat always thinks about others.

Do you guys agree that now its high time Virat realizes he has to think for himself as well?

Do drop in you views and opinions, would love to read them.

Not only Virat has to learn to think of himself, even Sai has to learn to think of herself. Rather I hope they think for themselves as a couple. The show would be more interesting if they were shown as a couple that put this relationship at top rather than every other person. Beautiful marriages happen only when both partners make each other and their relationship the top priority.

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

Heyy Guyyss!!!

So I have been watching the old episodes, and yesterday I was watching the fight after Amey's arrest. So there is a dialogue of Patralekha, where she asks Virat ki Sai se shaadi karne ka decision lete samay tumne apne baare mein bilkul bhi nahi socha (something along those lines only).

Aur isko waada dene se pehle socha tha? Aur jab Pakhi ne woh waada sweekara tha, tab usne Virat ke baare mein socha? She is a hypocrite and we know it.

Now, personally I believe that though Virat was a bit attracted to her, when he decided of marrying Sai, it was purely because he felt it was his Zimmedari. He had absolutely no ulterior motives, nor was it because of Villagers' pressure or because of guilt.

😲I didn't catch this. U mean he was attracted to Pakhi right?

Yes, he married Sai because it was his responsibility to take care of her.

@bold ofcourse not

What ulterior motives?

Villagers pressure made him to think about marriage as an option, otherwise he never would have thought of marrying Sai.

But I was thinking, did Virat think about himself at all when promising Pakhi to remain single his whole life? Was it not a promise given without thinking of himself, only by thinking about Samrat? That too not haven thought properly?

No, he didn't think about himself. He thought about only Samrat's happiness.

Lets for a bit imagine if Virat had never met Sai, never ever posted to GC. And lets also imagine Samrat never found out the truth at their wedding night.

What would have happened?

I think all of us would agree that Pakhi would definitely use Samrat to make Virat jealous. Samrat, at least at first, would have been living a lie. He is hurt and MIA now in reality, but I think its better to be sad after knowing the truth than living in fake happiness (not everyone has to agree with me). But at the same time, I think eventually Samrat would have found out the truth, even if he hadn't heard Pakhi confess. Because we have seen that Samrat is a very perceptive guy. He kept asking Patralekha if everything was okay, he had sensed something is not right. He also sensed that Virat is sad becasue of something. Eventually, he would have put two and two together. So I think the rift Pakhi has caused between Samrat and Virat now, would have actually been deeper then. There would have been a greater sense of betrayal to Samrat from both Pakhi and Virat had he lived in the lie any longer than he already did.

This also makes me think Samrat understands Virat more than Virat understands Samrat. Samrat tells Virat before his sangeet that Virat can tell him anything, yet Virat does not. Because Virat does not understand that Samrat can never be happy knowing his brother is not. Virat when giving vaada, was thinking of Samrat's happiness, yet not understanding Samrat.

Pakhi is obsessed with Virat now, she would have been then as well. She keeps guilt tripping Virat now, she would have then. She doesn't care about Samrat now, she wouldn't have then. Only difference would have been that now her main motive is downfall of Sai, it wouldn't be that way because there would have been no Sai.

But what about Virat? He was posted to GC, dealing with Sai's problems on a personal level, hence occupied. If that wouldn't have happened, how painful would it have been for Virat? For him to be sad, but put up a front for Samrat and family. How tiresome and toxic would have it been for him? Although, even if there had been no Sai, I think he would have moved on. He is so embarrassed of having had feelings for his Vahini now, he would have been then as well. But Pakhi's guilt tripping would actually work then. No matter how much Bhawani and Ashwini would have pushed him for it, vaada's guilt would not have let him marry somebody else. Because there would have been no motivation for breaking vaada, that actually came in the form of Sai. In Sai's case, he felt compelled, but he wouldn't have otherwise. He would have gotten rid of the feelings, yes.

But would he have ever moved on from the guilt of vaada to actually fall in love again and get married to someone else and embrace his happiness? What do you guys think?

He would have got married only if he was compelled to or if the situation demanded like how it did during his and Sai's marriage.

There are chances that he might have fallen in love with someone but he would have never pursued it I think. Now that he is married, he sees Sai as his wife and has let himself feel for her. He wouldn't have had this freedom to experience love or express love if he had not got married.

He would have raised a wall just like how Sai has now raised.

During that fight after Vithal had filed complaint, he says "Jaldbaazi mein kiye gaye faisle, insaan ko zindagi bhar ka dukh de dete hain, ye baat mujhe Gadhchiroli jaa kar samajh aayi."

Would he have realized that his vaada given to Pakhi in haste and no thought for himself would become his biggest regret had there been no Sai?

Don't know if he would have regretted. He might only if he falls in love with someone and that girl proposes him and when he will be made to decline the proposal because of his vaada. More than him not able to marry the girl, him hurting the girl would have made him regret.

Not sure if I made any sense to you 😳.

When Sai came to CN first day and Ashwini while feeding her said that Virat never thinks about himself, Virat always thinks about others.

Do you guys agree that now its high time Virat realizes he has to think for himself as well?

I think, he has already started to. If he wasn't think about himself, he wouldn't have let himself free to feel what he is feeling for Sai now. He is liberated not chained and that shows that he has given life a chance.

Do drop in you views and opinions, would love to read them.

Have replied in green.

I think the waada was mainly for Samrat's sake and ofcourse made in haste. Sometimes, when we do things for others, we fail to assess what the consequences would be. How it is going to affect us or even others. That is why one should never take a decision in haste.

In Virat's case, he was under tremendous pressure and had no time. He was only worried that someone might enter the room and would understand that there was something between the two.

I feel, if the situation had not turned the way it did on the evening of Sangeet, Virat would have never given any waada.

He requested Pakhi not to tell about them and to marry Samrat on the day of Haldi after he confessed his love to Pakhi.

He also told Pakhi that he hopes that she will attend the sangeet. So he had clearly left the decision to her.

The same would have happened if they had not met in that room. He would have hoped she will get married to Samrat and waada would have never come into picture.

Originally posted by: laksh

Have replied in green.

I think the waada was mainly for Samrat's sake and ofcourse made in haste. Sometimes, when we do things for others, we fail to assess what the consequences would be. How it is going to affect us or even others. That is why one should never take a decision in haste.

In Virat's case, he was under tremendous pressure and had no time. He was only worried that someone might enter the room and would understand that there was something between the two.

I feel, if the situation had not turned the way it did on the evening of Sangeet, Virat would have never given any waada.

He requested Pakhi not to tell about them and to marry Samrat on the day of Haldi after he confessed his love to Pakhi.

He also told Pakhi that he hopes that she will attend the sangeet. So he had clearly left the decision to her.

The same would have happened if they had not met in that room. He would have hoped she will get married to Samrat and waada would have never come into picture.

I didn't catch this. U mean he was attracted to Pakhi right?

Yes, he married Sai because it was his responsibility to take care of her.

@bold ofcourse not

What ulterior motives?

No I meant he found Sai attractive but did not think about it, because of age and other factors.

Ulterior motives as in when Vithal said Virat had his buri nazar on Sai since day 1. I don't think that's true.

Don't know if he would have regretted. He might only if he falls in love with someone and that girl proposes him and when he will be made to decline the proposal because of his vaada. More than him not able to marry the girl, him hurting the girl would have made him regret.

Not sure if I made any sense to you .

It makes perfect sense but I think the guilt would have never let him pursue anybody, tbh.

I think, he has already started to. If he wasn't think about himself, he wouldn't have let himself free to feel what he is feeling for Sai now. He is liberated not chained and that shows that he has given life a chance.

Maybe is starting to, but he is not fully there yet. Because I think the guilt of vaada is still weighing him down. (keyword being think)

I feel, if the situation had not turned the way it did on the evening of Sangeet, Virat would have never given any waada.

I fully agree.

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

I didn't catch this. U mean he was attracted to Pakhi right?

Yes, he married Sai because it was his responsibility to take care of her.

@bold ofcourse not

What ulterior motives?

No I meant he found Sai attractive but did not think about it, because of age and other factors.

I don't know if he was attracted but was impressed. As you said age and other factors didn't let him feel or think about her in any other way.

Ulterior motives as in when Vithal said Virat had his buri nazar on Sai since day 1. I don't think that's true.

Definitely not true.

Don't know if he would have regretted. He might only if he falls in love with someone and that girl proposes him and when he will be made to decline the proposal because of his vaada. More than him not able to marry the girl, him hurting the girl would have made him regret.

Not sure if I made any sense to you .

It makes perfect sense but I think the guilt would have never let him pursue anybody, tbh.

I agree but it would have been hard to not fall for, if he had met Sai (a few years later) or anyone like Sai. But i too doubt it, only because he got married, he is not stopping himself.

I think, he has already started to. If he wasn't think about himself, he wouldn't have let himself free to feel what he is feeling for Sai now. He is liberated not chained and that shows that he has given life a chance.

Maybe is starting to, but he is not fully there yet. Because I think the guilt of vaada is still weighing him down. (keyword being think)

Could be. May be that is why he doesn't want to accept his love as love and giving it all names except love.

I feel, if the situation had not turned the way it did on the evening of Sangeet, Virat would have never given any waada.

I fully agree.

Originally posted by: laksh

Have replied in green.

I think the waada was mainly for Samrat's sake and ofcourse made in haste. Sometimes, when we do things for others, we fail to assess what the consequences would be. How it is going to affect us or even others. That is why one should never take a decision in haste.

In Virat's case, he was under tremendous pressure and had no time. He was only worried that someone might enter the room and would understand that there was something between the two.

I feel, if the situation had not turned the way it did on the evening of Sangeet, Virat would have never given any waada.

He requested Pakhi not to tell about them and to marry Samrat on the day of Haldi after he confessed his love to Pakhi.

He also told Pakhi that he hopes that she will attend the sangeet. So he had clearly left the decision to her.

The same would have happened if they had not met in that room. He would have hoped she will get married to Samrat and waada would have never come into picture.

i actually have slight different take on it.

if samrat was around and came to know about virat and pakhi at some point, yes there would definitely be a rift between the brothers and even pakhi would bear the brunt of his anger. but virat being the person he is would have taken the blame completely on him and would have absolved pakhi of any responsibility of their situation. samrat would have eventually talked it out with pakhi. no one who have invested even a little time in a relationship would have let it go without last attempt to make it work. pakhi would have lied through her tooth about wanting to move on, that is a completely different thing.

what guilt would virat have if samrat was not mia? because he has time and again reiterated to pakhi that she would be happy if she gives samrat one chance. he would have thought that they moved on since pakhi would seemingly care for samrat if only for appearances sake.

virat and sai never planned to fall in love. for them it was marriage of convenience. but neither of them l had been able to keep away from each other. yes, sai’s walls are higher, she might not admit to missing him or caring for him but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t. she just doesn’t show them. if virat was married to someone else other than sai, even if she fit every bill of perfect chavan bahu, she would have remained just a zimmedari to him., he never had control pver the multitude of emotions he feels. she has always made him out of control of his emotions. so i don’t think it is marriage due to which he has been able to break the shackles of his vaada.

if sai and virat were not married and met in different circumstances few years down the line, i strongly feel even then he would not have been able to not fall in love with her. maybe then he would have resisted a bit more, but the fall would have come. his feelings for sai would never let him stay away from her for long. initially he would have covered his care and affection under the blanket of friendship just like zimmedari now.

not sure if i made sense to you but these are my views.

Absolutely loved your post. Well-explained 👏Yeah if Samrat did not get to know on the wedding night and virat was staying at chavan house all that time with samrat-pakhi under one roof instead of going to GC, samrat would have gotten to know very soon anyways because of pattar didi's lack of self-control when it comes to wanting Virat's attention, so if samrat had lived with pakhi for any longer with virat trying to act like nothing's wrong, samrat would have felt even more betrayed and hurt.

Even though back then he might have thought his biggest mistake was GC but now he will understand it's his stupid vaada to Pakhi which was his biggest mistake. When Sai will refuse to give them a chance thinking he is in love with Pakhi then he will definitely regret the vaada.

Loved your post. I agree with you. If Samrat had not anything on the wedding night he somehow would have come to know later since Patralekha would have still tried her best to get close to Virat. And, a guilt tripped Virat would not have been able to marry someone else either. But, now since he's married to Sayi he's feeling free to break the shackles and I'm sure he will break free from the the promise very soon. And, both Virat and Sayi have to think for themselves instead of thinking of others.

Originally posted by: raji02

i actually have slight different take on it.

if samrat was around and came to know about virat and pakhi at some point, yes there would definitely be a rift between the brothers and even pakhi would bear the brunt of his anger. but virat being the person he is would have taken the blame completely on him and would have absolved pakhi of any responsibility of their situation. samrat would have eventually talked it out with pakhi. no one who have invested even a little time in a relationship would have let it go without last attempt to make it work. pakhi would have lied through her tooth about wanting to move on, that is a completely different thing.

what guilt would virat have if samrat was not mia? because he has time and again reiterated to pakhi that she would be happy if she gives samrat one chance. he would have thought that they moved on since pakhi would seemingly care for samrat if only for appearances sake.

I feel even then Pakhi will guilt trip Virat (cause she just is petty like that), hence the guilt.

virat and sai never planned to fall in love. for them it was marriage of convenience. but neither of them l had been able to keep away from each other. yes, sai’s walls are higher, she might not admit to missing him or caring for him but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t. she just doesn’t show them. if virat was married to someone else other than sai, even if she fit every bill of perfect chavan bahu, she would have remained just a zimmedari to him., he never had control pver the multitude of emotions he feels. she has always made him out of control of his emotions. so i don’t think it is marriage due to which he has been able to break the shackles of his vaada.

Yeah, even I think that's true. Its not the marriage, its Sai.

if sai and virat were not married and met in different circumstances few years down the line, i strongly feel even then he would not have been able to not fall in love with her. maybe then he would have resisted a bit more, but the fall would have come. his feelings for sai would never let him stay away from her for long. initially he would have covered his care and affection under the blanket of friendship just like zimmedari now.

Definitely agree, which is why I only talked of a situation where he didn't even meet Sai.

not sure if i made sense to you but these are my views.

Tbh, I kinda believe in fate and destiny and believe everything happens for a reason.

Which is why I also feel no matter what circumstances Virat and Sai met under, they would have fallen for each other, because they are just meant to be.