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Hello lovelies!

Just caught up with two episodes-- 40 minutes of dragging a day jiski subaah hone mein abhi time hai ...😑😅

How does one spot an actual conspiracy from a conspiracy theory?

Ask two questions:

1. Who wanted something to happen?

2. Who wanted to ensure that things don't happen the way that somebody wanted them to happen?

What is the difference between a conspiracy theory and an actual conspiracy?

A: Evidence. (period)🤷


3. What should you do when the conspiracy involves danger?

A. Run in a circle, scream and shout everything that you know? NOOOO!!!


So, the approach to investigating if a conspiracy theory is actually a conspiracy is by gathering evidence -- the existence of a plot is only a hypotethical situation in absence of proof. If the evidence contradicts the claim of conspiracy, it cannot be automatically seen as a cover-up as per the rule.

Anyone who gets involved in considering mutliple conspiracy theories, sooner or later, faces a conundrum i.e. a brain teaser or a riddle. If you can solve it to find the answer -- like simplifying an anagram -- you would probably be able to prove that the conspiracy theory is not hypothetical but a real conspiracy.

I am disappointed in Sai (but sufficiently excited about the way the track is playing out). She is overwhelmed and alone, I get it but she's actually being a blindly obstinate. She has lost her goal post and it has suddenly changed from helping Pulkit and Devyani to convincing Bhavani and proving Pulkit (and herself) right. I am sorry to say this but that is how it appears although that is not her intention. Of course, she's latching on to the "chance" that Bhavani has given her and it is her hope that she will be able to smoothly pave way for Devyani's wedding. But one can see how desperate and lost she is feeling that she is unable to think cleverly, unable to pause and process before blurting out every single piece of information or thought in front of the gang that she should be wary of. Even Bhavani mentioned how "clever" she can be if she catches on to the clues, but no, Sai is not thinking yet despite the puzzle being in front of her with just one missing piece.

One must also consider, of course, that she is all of 19 and so, that is how a 19 year old would deal with a situation that is actually too big for the 'chhote chhote kandhe' -- it really resonates Virat's words and warnings to her even when she was being foolhardy during Amey's exposure. She was being as stubborn about proving the (her) point that Shivani is innocent. That time, although utterly annoyed and cross, he was there to protect her, cover up for her and rebuke her where needed but now, he's not around and she's actually sinking deeper into the quick sand that the gang has thrown at her...🥺

First things first, WHY is she trying to convince people like Bhavani, Sonali and the two men, giving out ALL the information needed for her to process, when she hasn't even stopped to think "Who is it that doesn't want Pulkit to come?" She has been manipulated in such a way by the one act of concern by Bhavani that she's actually given them all a clean chit despite having evident clues in front of her eyes! Now, if someone like Sai can give them a clean chit in one moment -- and not even suspect the fact that Bhavani went from a vehement no to an imploring yes to a menacing no again in a matter of hours, I really don't blame Ashwini for becoming blind.

Ashwini's outburst, no matter how harsh it sounded, was only her concern -- for Devyani and also Sai. Yes, she's suddenly feeling 'touched' by the sweet talking trio (that, in itself should ring a bell) and she's not been able to spot their lying eyes or faces turning pale. I would still let it pass -- she's a mother and she is not adept at handling crisis, it seems. She has lost her intiution completely and she is powerless without Virat around. She's concerned for Devyani's condition and she feels Sai is being mullish by taking on the vengeful trio that will go to any lengths to humiliate her soon enough. Her anger came out in hurtful words but at the end, with absolutely no evidence to substantiate Sai's "belief", one cannot blame Ashwini or Usha from asking her to pause, think and let go... In the end, Ashwini and Usha are also concerned about Sai's own wellbeing and happiness.

(I know I am late and it must have already been discussed but: Sonali almost seemed to have agreed and understood what Sai was trying to say, before Ashwini began chastising Sai. Also, I loved how Ashwini asked Sonali to shut up because she was talking to Sai and no one else needed to interfere -- that is what her son, Virat, has to do, in that exact tone, when any one butts in with special aag mein ghee in matters involving Sai and WOW WOW Karishma heard the Makad Sena conspiring!!😦 Sonali must have found out that her "Aaho" has hidden things from her😅)

Sai's intentions are so pure that she actually thinks that all she has to do is "convince Bhavani Kaku" and Devyani's happiness will be back... In the process, she has not even spared a thought for Pulkit's safety, except that he is in museebat and his phone is not with him--- the voice message also changed that perspective. But what if he's at gunpoint and maybe not even alive at all? How have Sai or Madhuri not thought about the worst-case scenarios!?😓 If she realised that SMSes can be sent "by force" then so can a 'voice message', especially insisting on not going to the police... Itna bhi nahi socha?🙄 And what's even funny is that Madhuri has not received a single message from him asking about Harini (Is she even around anymore in the story😐😣?) and they have found his 'abandoned' car, but Madhuri is not concerned. Why does she need Sai to file a police complaint?! And they even let the car remain with the traffic brigade?! (Logic ko bhool jaao...) Also, isn't it now evident to Pulkit also who has got him abducted?! Who would want him to record this kind of a voice message for Sai!? It's a no-brainer.

Waise:

Didn't Sai hear Bhavani whispering questions to Ashwini over the phone call in panic?🤔

Did the abductor use 'pause' and 'record' mode while giving out instructions to Pulkit ? Nahi toh uski bhi awaaz ko bhi record hona chahiye!🤔

So Aniket is making video calls to Sai, but Virat hasn't yet even messaged his zimmedari? Kahin inka bhi toh abduction hoke phone gayab nahi ho gaya?😰😬

On a serious note, this task is not meant for Sai to handle alone -- and no matter what anyone says, she absolutely has to take help of the right people -- the police. Fine, her IPS lucky charm is not contactable (and she has been told not to contact him) but she knows other policemen who can help -- her own so-called Kakas back home are in the force and even the powerful top cop, who she can call as she mentioned to Madhuri... The whole decision to wait for getting the right persons involved in the search seems so foolish.😒😒

So, it seems tomorrow Sai will 'overhear' the the plotting and realise what a fool she has been by going into the "Kaku ko batana hoga" mode... I guess the story will be sewn back to the point where it was left, by the end of next week -- basically just adding a de-tour for us and taking it back to the plot. No prizes for guessing what Sai will be told about unearthing a crime: Where exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, it is the criminals who rule. Another "yakeen nahi hota hai" moment is waiting for chaheeta IPS beta.😖

******

It reminds me how a small proportion of honesty can be a dangerous thing when we are faced with people with vested interests but a great deal of honesty is absolutely fatal when you run into unscrupulous people like the Ghar be bade, dil ke acche😥. The most dangerous monsters often lie in those who are supposed to be "believed" at all times, without questions being asked. Despite the larger outcome known, can't help but feel a kind of trepidation for Sai... How easy is it for the wolves in the world to make her believe this naive little lamb that they are taking her home?

It's too late for a☕☕☕☕☕ or 🍵🍵🍵🍵🍵 but the perfect time for 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗❤️💕❤️💕❤️

What is done today is done... Tomorrow will bring the new light from the new sun!

Love you all!

❤️J

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Hello lovelies!

Just caught up with two episodes-- 40 minutes of dragging a day jiski subaah hone mein abhi time hai ...😑😅

How does one spot an actual conspiracy from a conspiracy theory?

Ask two questions:

1. Who wanted something to happen?

2. Who wanted to ensure that things don't happen the way that somebody wanted them to happen?

What is the difference between a conspiracy theory and an actual conspiracy?

A: Evidence. (period)🤷


3. What should you do when the conspiracy involves danger?

A. Run in a circle, scream and shout everything that you know? NOOOO!!!


So, the approach to investigating if a conspiracy theory is actually a conspiracy is by gathering evidence -- the existence of a plot is only a hypotethical situation in absence of proof. If the evidence contradicts the claim of conspiracy, it cannot be automatically seen as a cover-up as per the rule.

Anyone who gets involved in considering mutliple conspiracy theories, sooner or later, faces a conundrum i.e. a brain teaser or a riddle. If you can solve it to find the answer -- like simplifying an anagram -- you would probably be able to prove that the conspiracy theory is not hypothetical but a real conspiracy.

I am disappointed in Sai (but sufficiently excited about the way the track is playing out). She is overwhelmed and alone, I get it but she's actually being a blindly obstinate. She has lost her goal post and it has suddenly changed from helping Pulkit and Devyani to convincing Bhavani and proving Pulkit (and herself) right. I am sorry to say this but that is how it appears although that is not her intention. Of course, she's latching on to the "chance" that Bhavani has given her and it is her hope that she will be able to smoothly pave way for Devyani's wedding. But one can see how desperate and lost she is feeling that she is unable to think cleverly, unable to pause and process before blurting out every single piece of information or thought in front of the gang that she should be wary of. Even Bhavani mentioned how "clever" she can be if she catches on to the clues, but no, Sai is not thinking yet despite the puzzle being in front of her with just one missing piece.

One must also consider, of course, that she is all of 19 and so, that is how a 19 year old would deal with a situation that is actually too big for the 'chhote chhote kandhe' -- it really resonates Virat's words and warnings to her even when she was being foolhardy during Amey's exposure. She was being as stubborn about proving the (her) point that Shivani is innocent. That time, although utterly annoyed and cross, he was there to protect her, cover up for her and rebuke her where needed but now, he's not around and she's actually sinking deeper into the quick sand that the gang has thrown at her...🥺

First things first, WHY is she trying to convince people like Bhavani, Sonali and the two men, giving out ALL the information needed for her to process, when she hasn't even stopped to think "Who is it that doesn't want Pulkit to come?" She has been manipulated in such a way by the one act of concern by Bhavani that she's actually given them all a clean chit despite having evident clues in front of her eyes! Now, if someone like Sai can give them a clean chit in one moment -- and not even suspect the fact that Bhavani went from a vehement no to an imploring yes to a menacing no again in a matter of hours, I really don't blame Ashwini for becoming blind.

Ashwini's outburst, no matter how harsh it sounded, was only her concern -- for Devyani and also Sai. Yes, she's suddenly feeling 'touched' by the sweet talking trio (that, in itself should ring a bell) and she's not been able to spot their lying eyes or faces turning pale. I would still let it pass -- she's a mother and she is not adept at handling crisis, it seems. She has lost her intiution completely and she is powerless without Virat around. She's concerned for Devyani's condition and she feels Sai is being mullish by taking on the vengeful trio that will go to any lengths to humiliate her soon enough. Her anger came out in hurtful words but at the end, with absolutely no evidence to substantiate Sai's "belief", one cannot blame Ashwini or Usha from asking her to pause, think and let go... In the end, Ashwini and Usha are also concerned about Sai's own wellbeing and happiness.

(I know I am late and it must have already been discussed but: Sonali almost seemed to have agreed and understood what Sai was trying to say, before Ashwini began chastising Sai. Also, I loved how Ashwini asked Sonali to shut up because she was talking to Sai and no one else needed to interfere -- that is what her son, Virat, has to do, in that exact tone, when any one butts in with special aag mein ghee in matters involving Sai and WOW WOW Karishma heard the Makad Sena conspiring!!😦 Sonali must have found out that her "Aaho" has hidden things from her😅)

Sai's intentions are so pure that she actually thinks that all she has to do is "convince Bhavani Kaku" and Devyani's happiness will be back... In the process, she has not even spared a thought for Pulkit's safety, except that he is in museebat and his phone is not with him--- the voice message also changed that perspective. But what if he's at gunpoint and maybe not even alive at all? How have Sai or Madhuri not thought about the worst-case scenarios!?😓 If she realised that SMSes can be sent "by force" then so can a 'voice message', especially insisting on not going to the police... Itna bhi nahi socha?🙄 And what's even funny is that Madhuri has not received a single message from him asking about Harini (Is she even around anymore in the story😐😣?) and they have found his 'abandoned' car, but Madhuri is not concerned. Why does she need Sai to file a police complaint?! And they even let the car remain with the traffic brigade?! (Logic ko bhool jaao...) Also, isn't it now evident to Pulkit also who has got him abducted?! Who would want him to record this kind of a voice message for Sai!? It's a no-brainer.

Waise:

Didn't Sai hear Bhavani whispering questions to Ashwini over the phone call in panic?🤔

Did the abductor use 'pause' and 'record' mode while giving out instructions to Pulkit ? Nahi toh uski bhi awaaz ko bhi record hona chahiye!🤔

So Aniket is making video calls to Sai, but Virat hasn't yet even messaged his zimmedari? Kahin inka bhi toh abduction hoke phone gayab nahi ho gaya?😰😬

On a serious note, this task is not meant for Sai to handle alone -- and no matter what anyone says, she absolutely has to take help of the right people -- the police. Fine, her IPS lucky charm is not contactable (and she has been told not to contact him) but she knows other policemen who can help -- her own so-called Kakas back home are in the force and even the powerful top cop, who she can call as she mentioned to Madhuri... The whole decision to wait for getting the right persons involved in the search seems so foolish.😒😒

So, it seems tomorrow Sai will 'overhear' the the plotting and realise what a fool she has been by going into the "Kaku ko batana hoga" mode... I guess the story will be sewn back to the point where it was left, by the end of next week -- basically just adding a de-tour for us and taking it back to the plot. No prizes for guessing what Sai will be told about unearthing a crime: Where exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, it is the criminals who rule. Another "yakeen nahi hota hai" moment is waiting for chaheeta IPS beta.😖

******

It reminds me how a small proportion of honesty can be a dangerous thing when we are faced with people with vested interests but a great deal of honesty is absolutely fatal when you run into unscrupulous people like the Ghar be bade, dil ke acche😥. The most dangerous monsters often lie in those who are supposed to be "believed" at all times, without questions being asked. Despite the larger outcome known, can't help but feel a kind of trepidation for Sai... How easy is it for the wolves in the world to make her believe this naive little lamb that they are taking her home?

It's too late for a☕☕☕☕☕ or 🍵🍵🍵🍵🍵 but the perfect time for 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗❤️💕❤️💕❤️

What is done today is done... Tomorrow will bring the new light from the new sun!

Love you all!

❤️J

welcome back jankiii ur analysis always open a new perspective of the story for us .. Hope u are fine u seemed to be MIA since last few days

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Hello lovelies!

Janaki ... I miss you so much

Just caught up with two episodes-- 40 minutes of dragging a day jiski subaah hone mein abhi time hai ...😑😅

How does one spot an actual conspiracy from a conspiracy theory?

Ask two questions:

1. Who wanted something to happen?

2. Who wanted to ensure that things don't happen the way that somebody wanted them to happen?

What is the difference between a conspiracy theory and an actual conspiracy?

A: Evidence. (period)🤷


3. What should you do when the conspiracy involves danger?

A. Run in a circle, scream and shout everything that you know? NOOOO!!!


So, the approach to investigating if a conspiracy theory is actually a conspiracy is by gathering evidence -- the existence of a plot is only a hypotethical situation in absence of proof. If the evidence contradicts the claim of conspiracy, it cannot be automatically seen as a cover-up as per the rule.

Anyone who gets involved in considering mutliple conspiracy theories, sooner or later, faces a conundrum i.e. a brain teaser or a riddle. If you can solve it to find the answer -- like simplifying an anagram -- you would probably be able to prove that the conspiracy theory is not hypothetical but a real conspiracy.

I am disappointed in Sai (but sufficiently excited about the way the track is playing out). She is overwhelmed and alone, I get it but she's actually being a blindly obstinate. She has lost her goal post and it has suddenly changed from helping Pulkit and Devyani to convincing Bhavani and proving Pulkit (and herself) right. I am sorry to say this but that is how it appears although that is not her intention. Of course, she's latching on to the "chance" that Bhavani has given her and it is her hope that she will be able to smoothly pave way for Devyani's wedding. But one can see how desperate and lost she is feeling that she is unable to think cleverly, unable to pause and process before blurting out every single piece of information or thought in front of the gang that she should be wary of. Even Bhavani mentioned how "clever" she can be if she catches on to the clues, but no, Sai is not thinking yet despite the puzzle being in front of her with just one missing piece.

This is where, she is failing, she is blindly arguing with everyone to prove pulkit innocent instead I really want her to sit calmly and collect evidence

One must also consider, of course, that she is all of 19 and so, that is how a 19 year old would deal with a situation that is actually too big for the 'chhote chhote kandhe' -- it really resonates Virat's words and warnings to her even when she was being foolhardy during Amey's exposure. She was being as stubborn about proving the (her) point that Shivani is innocent. That time, although utterly annoyed and cross, he was there to protect her, cover up for her and rebuke her where needed but now, he's not around and she's actually sinking deeper into the quick sand that the gang has thrown at her...🥺

I agree with this, I mentioned this before also... If virat was around he might not completely support sai but he would have protected her... Atleast to protect her he would have tried to enquire about pulkit...and this makad Sena would have think twice before doing anything.q..

Even now , I feel if they really want they can send sai out or do something wrong with her but... They are not doing it ( only trying to convince her) because if sai is hurt or in danger then virat will get involved directly... Then they can't stop him

First things first, WHY is she trying to convince people like Bhavani, Sonali and the two men, giving out ALL the information needed for her to process, when she hasn't even stopped to think "Who is it that doesn't want Pulkit to come?" She has been manipulated in such a way by the one act of concern by Bhavani that she's actually given them all a clean chit despite having evident clues in front of her eyes! Now, if someone like Sai can give them a clean chit in one moment -- and not even suspect the fact that Bhavani went from a vehement no to an imploring yes to a menacing no again in a matter of hours, I really don't blame Ashwini for becoming blind.

Ashwini's outburst, no matter how harsh it sounded, was only her concern -- for Devyani and also Sai. Yes, she's suddenly feeling 'touched' by the sweet talking trio (that, in itself should ring a bell) and she's not been able to spot their lying eyes or faces turning pale. I would still let it pass -- she's a mother and she is not adept at handling crisis, it seems. She has lost her intiution completely and she is powerless without Virat around. She's concerned for Devyani's condition and she feels Sai is being mullish by taking on the vengeful trio that will go to any lengths to humiliate her soon enough. Her anger came out in hurtful words but at the end, with absolutely no evidence to substantiate Sai's "belief", one cannot blame Ashwini or Usha from asking her to pause, think and let go... In the end, Ashwini and Usha are also concerned about Sai's own wellbeing and happiness.

I agree this, yes Ashwini felt happy with ninad affection but she is not completely influence of ninad,,, it's mother in her talking... Her points have logic because sai don't have proof to prove her point and there are lot of evidence against Ashwini... But some of her words are very hurtful like ashwini saying saying sai that she is creating stories.

(I know I am late and it must have already been discussed but: Sonali almost seemed to have agreed and understood what Sai was trying to say, before Ashwini began chastising Sai. Also, I loved how Ashwini asked Sonali to shut up because she was talking to Sai and no one else needed to interfere -- that is what her son, Virat, has to do, in that exact tone, when any one butts in with special aag mein ghee in matters involving Sai and WOW WOW Karishma heard the Makad Sena conspiring!!😦 Sonali must have found out that her "Aaho" has hidden things from her😅)

Yes na, when sai asked her don't you think pulkit sir will use this opportunity , sonali was little convenienced ... But unfortunately Shivani and Ashwini didn't get it... Actually I felt even Shivani agreed with sai at some points

Sai's intentions are so pure that she actually thinks that all she has to do is "convince Bhavani Kaku" and Devyani's happiness will be back... In the process, she has not even spared a thought for Pulkit's safety, except that he is in museebat and his phone is not with him--- the voice message also changed that perspective. But what if he's at gunpoint and maybe not even alive at all? How have Sai or Madhuri not thought about the worst-case scenarios!?😓 If she realised that SMSes can be sent "by force" then so can a 'voice message', especially insisting on not going to the police... Itna bhi nahi socha?🙄 And what's even funny is that Madhuri has not received a single message from him asking about Harini (Is she even around anymore in the story😐😣?) and they have found his 'abandoned' car, but Madhuri is not concerned. Why does she need Sai to file a police complaint?! And they even let the car remain with the traffic brigade?! (Logic ko bhool jaao...) Also, isn't it now evident to Pulkit also who has got him abducted?! Who would want him to record this kind of a voice message for Sai!? It's a no-brainer.

Waise:

Didn't Sai hear Bhavani whispering questions to Ashwini over the phone call in panic?🤔

Did the abductor use 'pause' and 'record' mode while giving out instructions to Pulkit ? Nahi toh uski bhi awaaz ko bhi record hona chahiye!🤔

Same questions popped up

So Aniket is making video calls to Sai, but Virat hasn't yet even messaged his zimmedari? Kahin inka bhi toh abduction hoke phone gayab nahi ho gaya?😰😬

Video call chodo... Didn't virat even tried to call sai.. that's interesting... They even couldn't like in different rooms during DIG track

On a serious note, this task is not meant for Sai to handle alone -- and no matter what anyone says, she absolutely has to take help of the right people -- the police. Fine, her IPS lucky charm is not contactable (and she has been told not to contact him) but she knows other policemen who can help -- her own so-called Kakas back home are in the force and even the powerful top cop, who she can call as she mentioned to Madhuri... The whole decision to wait for getting the right persons involved in the search seems so foolish.😒😒

So, it seems tomorrow Sai will 'overhear' the the plotting and realise what a fool she has been by going into the "Kaku ko batana hoga" mode... I guess the story will be sewn back to the point where it was left, by the end of next week -- basically just adding a de-tour for us and taking it back to the plot. No prizes for guessing what Sai will be told about unearthing a crime: Where exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, it is the criminals who rule. Another "yakeen nahi hota hai" moment is waiting for chaheeta IPS beta.😖

******

It reminds me how a small proportion of honesty can be a dangerous thing when we are faced with people with vested interests but a great deal of honesty is absolutely fatal when you run into unscrupulous people like the Ghar be bade, dil ke acche😥. The most dangerous monsters often lie in those who are supposed to be "believed" at all times, without questions being asked. Despite the larger outcome known, can't help but feel a kind of trepidation for Sai... How easy is it for the wolves in the world to make her believe this naive little lamb that they are taking her home?

It's too late for a☕☕☕☕☕ or 🍵🍵🍵🍵🍵 but the perfect time for 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗❤️💕❤️💕❤️

What is done today is done... Tomorrow will bring the new light from the new sun!

Love you all!

❤️J

One question that is cracked me is... Why sai is not thinking about harini... Why would pulkit leave her daughter behind... If she really believed voice note, what was she thinks why pulkit left his wallet,car , house and even daughter... Sanyas lene jharaha hai Kya.... And why sai is not revealing about harini infront of Kaku Sena when she is reveling each and every detail.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saichintalli

One question that is cracked me is... Why sai is not thinking about harini... Why would pulkit leave her daughter behind... If she really believed voice note, what was she thinks why pulkit left his wallet,car , house and even daughter... Sanyas lene jharaha hai Kya.... And why sai is not revealing about harini infront of Kaku Sena when she is reveling each and every detail.

i feel sai is really fed up right now because she is really smart she is not in her senses right now her mind is occupied

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi Janki!!!🌸🌸


I lost interest so I stopped watching the show for the last couple of weeks, but I still visit the forum every night, just to check whether you posted or not! Illogical episodes make for great reviews, you see!
Saw a snippet on tv when Sai was crying, and my heart broke for her! After all this is over, Sai and Virat really need to work on long distance communication. Scratch that, they need to work on all types of communication hahaha!


Teenagers are amazing at twisting and lying, so it amazes me that Sai just blurts out everything. Teens also tend to latch on to issues, and keep it to themselves. Shouting “You’re sus!” to the criminals, is like giving them a warning so that they can pull up their socks in time? Not a very teen thing to do. But that’s Sai ig, it’s stupid but not out of character.

Even though the forum is unhappy about Virat’s absence, no one’s missing Pakhi at all, hahahaha!
(Keeping my hate for Pakhi aside, I do hope that both Neil and Aishwarya recover, and come back in good health) A lotta people are dreading the separation, I’m honestly waiting for it. Hopefully I can resume watching the show then hahaha!

Anyway, till then, your posts can make my day🌸

Ciao😇

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Very nice, was actually waiting to read your perspective for the 2 episodes. And I must say it was worth the wait, very aptly put forward.


Sai, is not thinking straight. The points she was explaining to Virat regarding the letter conspiracy she is not adding that with Pulkit missing and hence she is being played around. Its like these guys have ganged up against her to prove her wrong, well Sai is very smart if she applies her energy on the right things. She needs proof and am sure even after finding out what has happened she wont have any.


Ashwini was right in her own way, the comments were harsher but isn't harsh when they are angry (even if its a mother). That moment of anger was plain concern for one child and frustration of the other child who was nor listening.


Madhuri/Aniket - Ye sab filler ka hissa hain, inhe apna dimaag use karne mana kiys hain.


They have done a good job with the stretch as that was the need of the hour, but now it needs to be tied down. Since Sai will have no proofs we are back to square one and then lets take it from there.

So they are just going to bring back Virat in middle of a conversation and tell him your Baiko was again misguided by Pulkit and Navra would again believe that Pulkit played with my Baiko's innocence.


Its a wait and watch game. Lets see what happens, hope our IPS comes back with a little open mind. Hope karne mein kya hain

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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Hello lovelies!

Just caught up with two episodes-- 40 minutes of dragging a day jiski subaah hone mein abhi time hai ...😑😅

How does one spot an actual conspiracy from a conspiracy theory?

Ask two questions:

1. Who wanted something to happen?

2. Who wanted to ensure that things don't happen the way that somebody wanted them to happen?

What is the difference between a conspiracy theory and an actual conspiracy?

A: Evidence. (period)🤷


3. What should you do when the conspiracy involves danger?

A. Run in a circle, scream and shout everything that you know? NOOOO!!!


So, the approach to investigating if a conspiracy theory is actually a conspiracy is by gathering evidence -- the existence of a plot is only a hypotethical situation in absence of proof. If the evidence contradicts the claim of conspiracy, it cannot be automatically seen as a cover-up as per the rule.

Anyone who gets involved in considering mutliple conspiracy theories, sooner or later, faces a conundrum i.e. a brain teaser or a riddle. If you can solve it to find the answer -- like simplifying an anagram -- you would probably be able to prove that the conspiracy theory is not hypothetical but a real conspiracy.

I am disappointed in Sai (but sufficiently excited about the way the track is playing out). She is overwhelmed and alone, I get it but she's actually being a blindly obstinate. She has lost her goal post and it has suddenly changed from helping Pulkit and Devyani to convincing Bhavani and proving Pulkit (and herself) right. I am sorry to say this but that is how it appears although that is not her intention. Of course, she's latching on to the "chance" that Bhavani has given her and it is her hope that she will be able to smoothly pave way for Devyani's wedding. But one can see how desperate and lost she is feeling that she is unable to think cleverly, unable to pause and process before blurting out every single piece of information or thought in front of the gang that she should be wary of. Even Bhavani mentioned how "clever" she can be if she catches on to the clues, but no, Sai is not thinking yet despite the puzzle being in front of her with just one missing piece.

One must also consider, of course, that she is all of 19 and so, that is how a 19 year old would deal with a situation that is actually too big for the 'chhote chhote kandhe' -- it really resonates Virat's words and warnings to her even when she was being foolhardy during Amey's exposure. She was being as stubborn about proving the (her) point that Shivani is innocent. That time, although utterly annoyed and cross, he was there to protect her, cover up for her and rebuke her where needed but now, he's not around and she's actually sinking deeper into the quick sand that the gang has thrown at her...🥺

First things first, WHY is she trying to convince people like Bhavani, Sonali and the two men, giving out ALL the information needed for her to process, when she hasn't even stopped to think "Who is it that doesn't want Pulkit to come?" She has been manipulated in such a way by the one act of concern by Bhavani that she's actually given them all a clean chit despite having evident clues in front of her eyes! Now, if someone like Sai can give them a clean chit in one moment -- and not even suspect the fact that Bhavani went from a vehement no to an imploring yes to a menacing no again in a matter of hours, I really don't blame Ashwini for becoming blind.

Ashwini's outburst, no matter how harsh it sounded, was only her concern -- for Devyani and also Sai. Yes, she's suddenly feeling 'touched' by the sweet talking trio (that, in itself should ring a bell) and she's not been able to spot their lying eyes or faces turning pale. I would still let it pass -- she's a mother and she is not adept at handling crisis, it seems. She has lost her intiution completely and she is powerless without Virat around. She's concerned for Devyani's condition and she feels Sai is being mullish by taking on the vengeful trio that will go to any lengths to humiliate her soon enough. Her anger came out in hurtful words but at the end, with absolutely no evidence to substantiate Sai's "belief", one cannot blame Ashwini or Usha from asking her to pause, think and let go... In the end, Ashwini and Usha are also concerned about Sai's own wellbeing and happiness.

(I know I am late and it must have already been discussed but: Sonali almost seemed to have agreed and understood what Sai was trying to say, before Ashwini began chastising Sai. Also, I loved how Ashwini asked Sonali to shut up because she was talking to Sai and no one else needed to interfere -- that is what her son, Virat, has to do, in that exact tone, when any one butts in with special aag mein ghee in matters involving Sai and WOW WOW Karishma heard the Makad Sena conspiring!!😦 Sonali must have found out that her "Aaho" has hidden things from her😅)

Sai's intentions are so pure that she actually thinks that all she has to do is "convince Bhavani Kaku" and Devyani's happiness will be back... In the process, she has not even spared a thought for Pulkit's safety, except that he is in museebat and his phone is not with him--- the voice message also changed that perspective. But what if he's at gunpoint and maybe not even alive at all? How have Sai or Madhuri not thought about the worst-case scenarios!?😓 If she realised that SMSes can be sent "by force" then so can a 'voice message', especially insisting on not going to the police... Itna bhi nahi socha?🙄 And what's even funny is that Madhuri has not received a single message from him asking about Harini (Is she even around anymore in the story😐😣?) and they have found his 'abandoned' car, but Madhuri is not concerned. Why does she need Sai to file a police complaint?! And they even let the car remain with the traffic brigade?! (Logic ko bhool jaao...) Also, isn't it now evident to Pulkit also who has got him abducted?! Who would want him to record this kind of a voice message for Sai!? It's a no-brainer.

Waise:

Didn't Sai hear Bhavani whispering questions to Ashwini over the phone call in panic?🤔

Did the abductor use 'pause' and 'record' mode while giving out instructions to Pulkit ? Nahi toh uski bhi awaaz ko bhi record hona chahiye!🤔

So Aniket is making video calls to Sai, but Virat hasn't yet even messaged his zimmedari? Kahin inka bhi toh abduction hoke phone gayab nahi ho gaya?😰😬

On a serious note, this task is not meant for Sai to handle alone -- and no matter what anyone says, she absolutely has to take help of the right people -- the police. Fine, her IPS lucky charm is not contactable (and she has been told not to contact him) but she knows other policemen who can help -- her own so-called Kakas back home are in the force and even the powerful top cop, who she can call as she mentioned to Madhuri... The whole decision to wait for getting the right persons involved in the search seems so foolish.😒😒

So, it seems tomorrow Sai will 'overhear' the the plotting and realise what a fool she has been by going into the "Kaku ko batana hoga" mode... I guess the story will be sewn back to the point where it was left, by the end of next week -- basically just adding a de-tour for us and taking it back to the plot. No prizes for guessing what Sai will be told about unearthing a crime: Where exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, it is the criminals who rule. Another "yakeen nahi hota hai" moment is waiting for chaheeta IPS beta.😖

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It reminds me how a small proportion of honesty can be a dangerous thing when we are faced with people with vested interests but a great deal of honesty is absolutely fatal when you run into unscrupulous people like the Ghar be bade, dil ke acche😥. The most dangerous monsters often lie in those who are supposed to be "believed" at all times, without questions being asked. Despite the larger outcome known, can't help but feel a kind of trepidation for Sai... How easy is it for the wolves in the world to make her believe this naive little lamb that they are taking her home?

It's too late for a☕☕☕☕☕ or 🍵🍵🍵🍵🍵 but the perfect time for 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗❤️💕❤️💕❤️

What is done today is done... Tomorrow will bring the new light from the new sun!

Love you all!

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yay you are back :)

In a weird way I feel okay with Sai being portrayed this way. Yes she is smart but she is also young and stubborn.


She is shown more true to her character about to learn a important lesson in her life and they didn’t turn her into this mahanFL who gets everything quickly. She did have her slow start and is having trouble connecting the dots. But I hope she will eventually get the rude wake up call to realise things:


When emotional and wirh something to prove, logic flies through the window and you stop thinking . It is where Sai is and is unable to see beyond a point with adversaries far superior than her with no conscience and care for anyone apart from themselves

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Nice analysis janki as always & welcome back.


In one of my previous post I said sai ki biggest strength or weakness uski straightforwardness hi hain. Kaku did a very good homework on sai , she is using her observation against sai.


Fooling amay was easy 4 sai coz she got some idea how this amay kind people work so she trapped amay in his game only. Yes sai understand kaku very much but jo currently kaku conspiracy kar rahi hain vo sai kabhi sapne mein bhi nhi soch sakti ( koi bhi nhi soch sakta be it chavan siblings , Ashwani , Shivani ), she understood kaku dint accepted devkit coz of pulkit belonging to different caste , not her choice of groom , devkit married going against kaku , something she 2 is facing from d day she entered CN but she don't know what else happened coz Pulkit never told her whole truth, even pulkit himself wondering who kidnap him 😆kissko fayda hoga usse.


Kaku herself said no one know who she actually is coz she is not what she shows in public.


I can sound foolish but sai believe kaku my reason she wanted to make things right for devi any how , she saw some positivity in kaku ( which was fake ), so she giving her a chance , she saw how kaku treats devi but when she saw motherly feelings in kaku she don't want to harm it as she understands a parent position in a child life . As Devi condition is becoming worse do there is a guilt also in sai which is making her take impulsivd steps of trusting kaku gang .


Regarding Ashwani outburst on sai .


I know some mates sai its coz of ninad but for me it's coz of devi's condition getting worst.


Ashwani has raised devi as her daughter , she accepted sai 2 as her daughter.


2 bacho mein ma ka dhyan uss bache pe jyada hota jisko tabiyat kharab hoti hai .


Ashwani ka dimaag iss samay devi pe focussed hai , dusra Sai's adamancy is irritating her ( me 2 ) coz sai is hellbent to provd pulkit right without any proof.As sai is doing all this without proof Ashwani know it can irk virat who asked sai not do such things as it will lead her into trouble.


In saari cheezo mein mujhe ek cheez digest nhi ho rahi vo ye ki why Ashwani is again & again restricting sai not to inform virat anything


As @laksh said in one post that she don't want to stress virat Coz he is away from house , other members said phir seperation kaise hoga agar Sai bata degi Virat ko but still I m asking what is d point of keeping virat in dark that what happens behind his back I home.


Meri duniya abhi bhi umeed pe kayam hain, i m still hoping sai by mistake send this pulkit kidnapping video to virat & he returns, or sai get kidnapped by dadu kidnapper uncle .


If u noticed yesterday dadu kidnapper uncle mentioned police is waiting for dadu gang which make them wanted criminals.


As currently everyone is against sai including Ashwani , what if virat side sai😆as Cgang also wants wind up their conspiracy before virat's return.


50 thousand extra kon dega dadu kidnapper ko😆or kaha se.


Janki apne notice kiya kaku pakhi didi ko itna miss kar rahi hain ki vo apni saari conspiracy meetings pakhi didi ke kamre karti hain taki pakhi didi ki kami mehsoos na ho unhe .paku true love❤️

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Sabkuch accha raha to ho sakta hain next week virat sir ki entry ho jaye coz this Thursday Neil quarantine period will be over.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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awesome analysis janki , really loved it ,

looks like they are trying to show a parallel here regarding ameys case also making sai realise what virat meant that day ,

well tbh i really felt aais behaviour kind off weird tbh , infact in todays episode during that phone convo before that part how she was answering nervous kaku mandali , i don't know why but i feel she is playing with this kaku mandali , may be she know everything but acting , just to make them think she is in their team ,

well pulkit kaiseh beja hoga woh video to sai , but from the point when sai realises kakus strategy they will be getting back to main track ,

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I just want to say

Welcome back 🤗.

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