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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bechain_Bulbul

You are right in a way but when i look back now to all those forced virakhi scenes cvs gave us in the name od creativity, i find it actually necessary to fit in to the synopsis of show. Pakhi is giv3n importance because of virat. Uske bahut sare solo scenea nahi hote wo actually virakhi scenes hote hain jaha she is constantly trying to guilt trip him or blame him for her condition to get empathy and ultimately love but virat always stands firm. He never falls in her trap. Yes feels bad for her because its an undeniable fact that she is chavan niwas because of him and he feels guilty because while he has moved ahead with sai pakhi ia still alone waiting for samrat.


And his behavior with sai is very much of a husband. All that questioning her about her whereabouts, haq jatana, trip par le jana all this screams a lot about his love but obviously he is under false pretense of doing all this as a zimmedari and thats his confusion. He doesnt realize it that he has gone beyomd zimmedari and now in love with her. He wants same behavior from sai but when she misunderstands his feelings, keep bringing pakhi between them, and purposefully picks up fights with family then it puts him off and in his mind he wants sai to accept his family and vice versa because he don't have any intention to let her go after 5 years.


Yes he is super confused, flawed character but thats how he is, and he will change and find confidence to confess his love. Thats the story and it should go on like that. Ofcourse cvs are being lazy and copying too much but what can we expect from itv


everything you said is right, what am saying is as he is the main character here like u mentioned, they should show us his inner thoughts, his feelings and his confusion. as sai is also a flawed character, we understand her as she bluntly tells what she feels, so sai keliye we dont need inner voices or separate scenes to know what she feels, even pakhi we know what she wants and what her intentions her. but here as u said virat is the main character in hindi version they should show his 'confusion' to the audience, we understand one's feelings and thoughts through their actions or thoughts. here his actions were shown confident and expressions didnt show any confusion and thoughts tho kabhi dikhate nay. only in recent episode they showed him saying 'main sai ko lunch pe lejaana chahta tha but usne mere saat yeh kiya, pata nay main kabhi usse maaf kar bhi paaoonga ya nay' those are his thoughts and that's how they need to show which will make us understand what is going on his mind, but 99% of times his monologues and inner voice is not shown. which makes it difficult to connect to the 'main character' here. as u said it is about 'his' journey. 😃

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


Now that he has realised what he done, has got a chance to correct his mistakes. Anyone can make mistakes but what bothered audience was the mistake was him denying food and not letting her buy food for herself. He himself told Kaku kisikey mooh se niwala chinna agar galat hai toh galat hai. Just because he didn't snatch morsel of food or plate from her, doesn't mean he hasn't done the same.


Yeah true and he did it thrice. First himself then when Sai wanted to buy her own food and then Mohit. Ek hi mistake thrice in the same episode.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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First in comparison of Sai not having any issues of going Virakhi together to Ladakh. That came from her trust that Virat will never cross his line. She heard that dialogue when he gave rose to Didi.


In our case, PD is unknown to Virat. How many more students, purpose. He was concerned for her. But her refusal to answer him. Made him suspicious as if something was wrong. Knowing how stubborn she is. He stopped her by force and a warning.


This girl could have lied, but Sai being Sai. digged further into argument and later all family enjoyed the show.


Even when she returned, she was unapologetic with " I am hungry give me food". While hubby was hungry. Boys don't show their emotions in open but they do care. I have never seen an 18 year old who talks disrespectful to her father,prof, husband and others.


Somewhere, a volcano would burst . Virat tried to neutralize situation in their first fight. He repented later. When she was back, he watched her response whether she was apologetic. But her I am hungry jibe provoked him more. And he turned egoistic beyond that.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandu_500


everything you said is right, what am saying is as he is the main character here like u mentioned, they should show us his inner thoughts, his feelings and his confusion. as sai is also a flawed character, we understand her as she bluntly tells what she feels, so sai keliye we dont need inner voices or separate scenes to know what she feels, even pakhi we know what she wants and what her intentions her. but here as u said virat is the main character in hindi version they should show his 'confusion' to the audience, we understand one's feelings and thoughts through their actions or thoughts. here his actions were shown confident and expressions didnt show any confusion and thoughts tho kabhi dikhate nay. only in recent episode they showed him saying 'main sai ko lunch pe lejaana chahta tha but usne mere saat yeh kiya, pata nay main kabhi usse maaf kar bhi paaoonga ya nay' those are his thoughts and that's how they need to show which will make us understand what is going on his mind, but 99% of times his monologues and inner voice is not shown. which makes it difficult to connect to the 'main character' here. as u said it is about 'his' journey. 😃

Ok now i got it what you are saying. Actually its highly needed to include his inner voice and thoughts to further clarify where he stands. I remember during GC days his dream about he being chained in vaada and sai drowning was so clear and impactful and it did established his basis of taking the decision. We need it more.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: njain16385

First in comparison of Sai not having any issues of going Virakhi together to Ladakh. That came from her trust that Virat will never cross his line. She heard that dialogue when he gave rose to Didi.

I don't think there is any comparison between the two instances. Aai brought this up to Virat to make him understand that she trusts him even after knowing about their past (though she didn't tell it explicitly but it was revealed in front of all, that they had a past) and he should also be trusting her. I believe that the only main reason trust came into picture was because he told her, Sai didn't tell why she was meeting the professor.


In our case, PD is unknown to Virat. How many more students, purpose. He was concerned for her. But her refusal to answer him. Made him suspicious as if something was wrong. Knowing how stubborn she is. He stopped her by force and a warning.

I completely understood his concern and obviously anyone would be. I understood why he was so mad at her. I had even written a post about it the first day he stopped her using force. It went out of control only when he denied her food.



This girl could have lied, but Sai being Sai. digged further into argument and later all family enjoyed the show.

I know why everyone feel she could have lied but we cannot ignore Sai's characterisation, she is not going to lie. There can be things that she tells out of misunderstanding but that doesn't mean she is lying. So, I don't think she was wrong in not lying but there could have been a better way to put it through or handle it.

But the fact that they had a fight right before this added to their issues. She was also angry with him, and it was the pent up anger that made her act this way. If Pakhi had not humiliated her or if Virat had used words like badtameezi or arrogance to Pakhi or even if Virat had not told Sai that she was egoistic or arrogant, this wouldn't have happened.

It is natural, there were sparks from the previous night's fight between them which blew up this way.


Even when she returned, she was unapologetic with " I am hungry give me food". While hubby was hungry. Boys don't show their emotions in open but they do care. I have never seen an 18 year old who talks disrespectful to her father,prof, husband and others.

She spoke to Aai, not to him. It should have been between them. Unapologetic? If he really wanted to talk to her, he could have spoken to her once she had food too. How right is it for anyone to deny food? He himself spoke against Kaku saying anyone who does that is wrong. And about showing emotions, he is more sensitive than her.

I wouldn't call how she spoke to her Dad was disrespectful, she loves him, cares a lot for him and all those was spoken in childishness and some people speak that way taking liberty. As long as it is understood by the recipient which is her Dad, I don't see what the problem is. It is the same way she once told Kaku at the dining table, shareer dekhke bata sakthi hoon kisko kitna khana chahiye. Why did you think Virat smiled, he could see her care and her taking liberty.

About professor, she was wrong. I could see an impatient childish and immatured girl who didn't know how to react when she felt disappointed that her professor was married. She had high hopes and she also went against everyone to meet him so that she helps Devi Tai and came to know that her calculations went wrong and this guy showing inquisitiveness towards Devi Tai seems to have moved on. It was purely out of anger that he has moved on whereas Devi Tai is in that state still thinking and waiting for him.

Though she shouldn't have reacted that way, she couldn't hold her emotions especially feeling miserable for Devi Tai.

Her husband? Disrespectful? All that she does or behaves with Virat is mainly to show indifference. Any problem that they have had as husband and wife was because of Amay, Aniket and now this. At all three times she couldn't understand what is he expecting from her, why should he expect things from her as a wife, about fake flirting ot dancing on someone else's song. She is under the impression he loves Pakhi. She started to get attached to him, care for him, let him get close to her whenever he tries to get close but at the same time, reality hits her hard in the form of Pakhi and her misdeeds. And that is why even when he denied there was nothing between him and Pakhi, she clearly asked him why did he then say that he is only taking her responsibility and that he cannot be her husband. She confronted him, why was he quiet?

Only if she knows that their marriage is not a deal anymore, she will be able to do a lot of things and understand his jealousy or when he tries to take liberty on her as a husband.

She respects him, she has introspected more than he has. She regretted to have brought up Pakhi's name while asking about his dinner on the day she spoke about Aniket.

I am not a blind supporter of Sai, her nature is very different from others. But that doesn't mean she doesn't respect them or care about them.

I have always liked and appreciated Virat too for how kind, generous and patient he is. But can you justify his actions to have denied her food and also claiming the money as his (which he offered her and which she accepted only as a loan).


Somewhere, a volcano would burst . Virat tried to neutralize situation in their first fight. He repented later. When she was back, he watched her response whether she was apologetic. But her I am hungry jibe provoked him more. And he turned egoistic beyond that.

It is not that, definitely not that. He had already made up his mind to teach her a lesson once she returns. He just did not like her leaving like that. He turned to see if she looks at him, she just walked out which didn't go well with him. I still never thought that it was his ego, I couldn't see it as egoistic or because he was a guy, he acted that way, no.

She went against his words, didn't trust his judgment to not meet her profssor alone, it was his concern for her that made him very angry. Also it looked like he did feel insecured and he felt Sai as acting like this only because she doesn't see him as her husband and so thinks she need not listen to him. To him it was like, would she have done the same if it was her Dad, wouldn't she have listened to her Dad. It hurt him, really hurt. He has taken her responsibility and she is not willing to even acknowledge him by answering his questions.

His helplessness and failure to stop her enraged him. All that is fine only if he had just fought with her or tried to make it a point that whatever happened today wouldn't be encouraged again and that she has to let him know and only then go out. Discipling is fine but that doesn't mean he loses his sanity while doing so. He shouldn't have lost the sense of right and wrong.




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Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandu_500

wahi tho...


he was hurt, worried and all. we understand that but that doesn't mean that he forgets what kind of person he is. it was like 360 degrees turn. which adds one more thing to his contradicting statements and acts. where he stand against 'khana na khane dena' one and the other day he himself stopes his wife from having food.


his initial act of trying to stop her can be justified, cuz he was right there. (even though holding hand tightly was wrong) his intentions and emotions were at right place.


what he did in the second half of the Hungama, not giving food and 'my money' talk made it seem like a bad human and question his values and everything by his mother and brother who loves and respects him him so much.


if they showed tamil version here dil ko sukoon miljaata nad hum bhool bhi jaate ki usne kya kiya. cuz he gets reality check there and he realises his mistake as shivani and ashwini points out his mistakes and says hum bhi ab iss ghar mein kha nay khayenge and all. that made more sense. this balcony talk seemed pale to me.


@bold exactly


@green I understand, wasn't as dramatic as it was in Tamil and not too impactful as it should have been. The reason we feel that is because, we think it is necessary that he should have been shown mirror in front of his family but I will say as long as he regrets his mistake and corrects them, it is okay. I would agree with you if it was Pakhi or someone else but it is Virat here in question. This guy truly cares for her and only has good will for her, so it is okay if he is not told off by others in front of everyone. It is not that it is going to make any difference to the other gang, so if Virat is corrected alone or in front of the gang doesn't matter 😂😂. Do you see my point? As long as the issue is addressed it is okay.

Right now, the only thing is that he has atleast realised he went overboard

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


@bold exactly


@green I understand, wasn't as dramatic as it was in Tamil and not too impactful as it should have been. The reason we feel that is because, we think it is necessary that he should have been shown mirror in front of his family but I will say as long as he regrets his mistake and corrects them, it is okay. I would agree with you if it was Pakhi or someone else but it is Virat here in question. This guy truly cares for her and only has good will for her, so it is okay if he is not told off by others in front of everyone. It is not that it is going to make any difference to the other gang, so if Virat is corrected alone or in front of the gang doesn't matter 😂😂. Do you see my point? As long as the issue is addressed it is okay.

Right now, the only thing is that he has atleast realised he went overboard


I agree 👍🏼

To be honest, agar yehi baath Saturday ko bola ho tha tho i wouldn't have agreed. Cuz i was really pissed off with his behavior. 🤣🤣His morning behavior regarding stopping her was completely 5n with me, even though he held her hand tight. Cuz he was concerned for her, and for a 'right' reason he wanted to do anything he can to stop her. So it was totally 5n with me.


But not letting eat food and that 'my money' talk was not needed, for whatever reason, cuz i understand that he was worried at that time and all but, calling himself matured and samajdaar instead of letting her know why he his that and in what senses sai was wrong, he went on doing 2nd and 3rd mistakes like ashwini said he was wrong and behaved like his father there.


And the meaning of ashwini's words were that she is more understanding and usse insaanon ke parak hai and she is saaf dil ki ladki as she trusted virat and pakhi, didn't question their going alone on the trip thing was enough to make him suddenly realize that what he did was all wrong..lol. Upar se nothing was spoke about self respect there. Where as in tamil version sai says 'isiliye humare paas kudh ke paise hone chahiye, so that ayisi situation na aaye kabhi zindagi mein' when that 'my money' thing happened. In tamil version his realization seemed more realistic as ashwini, shivani and mohit asked him the right questions and passed right comments on his behavior which made him realize ki 'aare yeh main kya kar raha hoon' type 😂😂



But abhi as beech mein ek din gap aaya and mera gussa tanda hogaya hai. So am completely ok with his 'realization private mein' 😂😂 samja tho sahi....so am ok with it now. 👌👌 waise bhi agle din poore family ke saamne maafi maangta hai, if they show it here that will be great 👏👏

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