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Posted: 13 years ago
Samana🤗

Loved ur loong take😆. I think i started watching Geet from epi 21? I definitely remember MSK's grand entry in Hand Haveli. He said i am Maan Khurana. He dindnt say the signature Maan Singh Khurana though but said it with so much attitude😎. I was glued to the show😛. Like u i also think MSK/GC looked his best in HP n had better casual clothes. In HP i didnt realise he is so rich n in delhi i was CONfused😕 was he really rich? Thanks to the PH😳. I wish i could come daily n discuss but i hardly manage to visit the den.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Had seen the episode on Friday but just got the time to pen my thoughts on it. Will read everyones takes soon.
GEET Episode 25:

Geet is smart and earnest. She somehow gets Dev's number. I thought the number in the register started with 0091 which is the code for India whereas the country code for Canada is 001.😕😕 Did I miss something or does it just go to prove that small details were not looked into right from the beginning?Also if all his family was with him why would Dev have called his Canada number?😕 I will give him the benefit of doubt and assume it was to retrieve his messages.

Geet at least gets to know that the number is the right one when she hears them talk but unfortunately that will just give her more false hope of tracing them.😔 NT looks really pretty though her blouses with straps suit her better. And less said about Dev the better. So he is a serial womanizer. 😡😡Had many girlfriends before ( and I am sure after) marriage.😡😡 No wonder NT is on her toes. And that tone of NT suggests that she thinks that Dev, in one of his myriad weak moments ,must have given it to Geet. Otherwise she can't think of how a simpleton like Geet could have gotten hold of their number. Just unplugging the phone does not matter NT and as it was near the pool I am sure that was an extension. Our Sherni Geet is not that easily discouraged .I am sure NT will have the sense to change the number.😊😊

I thought Geet left with only one small shoulder bag which had that yellow salwar. Then how come her mother says most of her clothes are missing? Was that another blooper or am I again missing something?😕😕

So Brij does find Geet and gives her a good chase. But Geet is faster and more desperate and of course fate again puts her in our Hot Hot AYM's jeep which does not put her in a necessarily safer place but a beter one neverthless.😳😳 I was feeling very bad that Brij was slapping and hurting Rajji in the middle of the street and not one person comes to her help.😭😭

I loved having only Geet and Maan side by side for the last freeze shot.❤️ Looking forward to the next episode.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@ Priyachand Maan not confronting anyone from the Handa family for such a long stretch of time when he was shown really eager to close the deal is I am sure a blooper. 😕 Also I was thinking the same thing when I saw Geet jump right in front of Brij's jeep. When she had seen Brij and knew he was coming why would she jump right in front of him so he can see her? Maybe she did it to distract Brij from Rajji but she looked too surprised for it to have been planned .😕😕
@Sia That they used their real names and that too with the real surname seems really stupid when they have planned the rest of the things so diligently. Not only Dev but everyone else too uses their real name. One reason could be that it would be difficult for people like silly Kamya and nervous Pammi to remember the fake names and it would look even fishier if Pammi called her own son a wrong name. But they could have at least changed their surnames. No one addresses them with that name.😕 And you were right about the jeeps.😆 But didn't you know anyone in that province of Punjab is supposed to only drive that particular brand of jeep.😆
@Samana At the airport when they were teasing about Dev's fear of "flying" I too was thinking that it carried some double meaning. Your explanation kind of clarifies it.(Though my dirty mind was thinking of some other meaning which somehow did not fit in 😳).
But I still feel you are being quite generous with Dev when it comes to his guilt. He could have assuaged his guilt and avoided spilling the beans by taking a separate room or staying away from Geet for the night . He could have given a very convincing explanation of giving her space because it was too early and that I am sure would have impressed her more without hurting her. But he chose to satisfy his lust. And each time we even think remotely about him feeling guilty he proves it wrong with a villanous smirk that makes his intensions crystal clear. Also he did not seem weak when he slapped NT for doubting him and ordered her back nor later on when he calmly enquires from NT about how she has managed to dispose of all the "valuables" they cheated Geet out of. Having said that I am not saying that there was no way he could have had second thoughts later on. But we have to wait and see what explanation is given for his transformation because if I remember right even during the Kurbaan Hua scene it is shown that he seems to have a very low opinion of women especially a secretary when he teases Maan.
@ Mila It is no wonder you were confused about Maan's economic condition when he was in HP. Because he is shown hammering his own board.Also though I do realise he has come camping and must have not carried an extensive wardrobe and he looks really hot in black but to wear the same black shirt for such a long time is wierd. In all his shots he is shown in the black shirt.😆 So he does seem to have limited means.😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Paro: I think I need to elaborate on my stance re. Dev a little more. I am in no way giving him any leeway or credit, but I see his character as much more complex than just a villainous pervert and if not guilt then I do think he is feeling discomfort at what he is doing. Why didn't he book another room or stay away? Simply because he wasn't thinking that much. Like I mentioned before, he took the easiest and most attractive route to convincing Geet that everything was normal when he clearly felt a jolt when she mentioned living in Canada. It is of course despicable and I think even worse than out and out villainy like NT. NT is the brains in that couple but being a manipulative person, she lets Dev think that he has power over her. I think Dev sort of knows this and accepts it. I also think that may be why he is so angry when the car breaks down. He knows he can't keep his cool without NT around to manage him.

When I say weakness, it doesn't necessarily manifest that way physically but more that he gives in to knee-jerk reactions. I think him slapping NT came out of a place of weakness as well. He was petrified that she would find out about Geet so he did his best to make her feel small and stupid. He slapped her because she hit a very sensitive note in her rantings, given that she was absolutely right about him and Geet. That being said, I think he feels that hint of guilt, usually when Geet and NT are in one place. When he is with Geet alone, he can convince himself that the story he has constructed for her is real and when he is with NT he can convince himself that he is a smooth, feelingless, diabolical villain who is just as committed to the crime and intelligent as her.

So I see him as a character that can be swayed in a matter of minutes, depending on who he is with. He is a bit of a chameleon, which is what makes him such a "talented" womaniser. He can be exactly what the woman wants him to be. So when he comes to Delhi, I imagine his conscious is already pricking and he comes under the influence of Maan, Dadi and Meera, who maybe through sheer strength in numbers, make him seek their approval more than NT which is why he becomes repentant. So he moulds himself to gain the approval of who ever has the strongest influence on him at that time. But that is definitely not to say we can blame any one else for all the crap he does.

That way, I wish they had used Pammi's transformation (on which my theory still stands, btw) to make him negative again, using her influence to convince him that Maan had taken away what was rightfully his. They could have eased into it with him sticking to his saintliness for a bit and then having it wear away slowly with Pammi's arguments about Maan and Geet, especially in their physical absence, Dev could have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

I hope this makes it clearer. To be honest, like I said, to me this spineless brand of villainy is worse than if he were just a pervert. He gives in to things that are wrong, simply if they are convenient and that is really despicable. Of course this is what makes him an excellent foil for Maan, who refuses to compromise on his morals and has a conscience made of steel and works when we eventually compare the two.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Wow.. some really nice analysis done here by everyone...😊

@ Samana:

So finally u r back with ur... EXTRA-EXTRA long analysis..😆 I wanted to write abt Dev part.. but Paro has already covered most of the things which I wanted to say...And I read ur reply too...😊😊

nice analysis.. Though the fact that he slept with Geet only to divert himself is little hard to digest... coz he def had the lusty look n some really dirty thoughts when he was with Geet in the car.. n that was before the car broke down...so I feel it was his sheer pervertness... that he did it...😡
But I totally agree with u on the weakness part.. in terms of.. reacting instantly... Even I felt that when he slapped NT..when he is questioned/ oppossed he tries to avoid it instantly.. n that too by showing his dominance sp if opp person is weak... like women( I have never seen him raising his voice in front males.. like Brij or Maan).. and in that his reactions are exaggerated.. like slapping.. shouting.. the opposite person... just to avoid the confrontation...


i dont know if I made sense here.. But tried my best to put my thoughts correctly..:):-)I guess even CVs have not given this much thought while creating n writing Dev's character as much as we all are trying to analyse...😆 For them.. they just woke up one morning and decided that Dev shud be positive.. even worse MP came in and made Dev a SAINT.. with NO explanation given...😡
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

The really tall security guard that helps Geet at the airport reminds me so much of Maan, it's not even funny. He helps her when she is rational, makes fun of her for not having her own papers and not knowing how to go to Canada, he even says dialogues like "bandh karo ye natak" and "samnjhi tum?" Weird.

Samana... he is the same man who came as Police officer in Amritsar to arrest Maan Signh Khurana when Tej call for police... remember...😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
I had posted the promos which i loved and tried to catch it when ever it got airred and watched it in a loop on YT...😳
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sia221

nice analysis.. Though the fact that he slept with Geet only to divert himself is little hard to digest... coz he def had the lusty look n some really dirty thoughts when he was with Geet in the car.. n that was before the car broke down...so I feel it was his sheer pervertness... that he did it...😡



I agree that in the car he was feeling attracted to her and that was sheer perverseness, yes. But I think he felt safe in that nothing really could happen as they were going towards NT and the plan was going fine. He could convince himself that he was just playing the game with Geet and in no time NT would be there to take the reigns. But when the car broke down, he freaked out at such a tempting diversion from the plan. And he did ignore Geet for a while, but at some point, her innocence and trust in him got him into the game again.

So what I am trying to say was that the attraction was there, and he was well aware of it, but he acted on it only to distract himself from his own discomfort on being alone with Geet, which is selfish, and completely depraved, as he is wronging not only Geet but NT as well.

Like I said, to me this is worse than just being a pervert, which he is in any case for even feeling the attraction, as he takes advantage of situations and people to do exactly what is convenient for him at that moment, without thinking about anyone but himself. For me, even his repentance reeks of this selfishness because he just abandons NT in the lurch, after cheating on her, makes her out to be the bad guy and hides under Meera's pallu. Just thinking about it gives me the creepy crawlies. 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
@ Samana:

When the car broke down.. for a moment..Dev did get frustrated bcoz there was a halt in his plan which was going on so smoothly..in that he even ignores Geet for sometime.. But then as u said.. Her innocence takes over.. So here he takes it as an opportunity to spend the night with Geet..If he was so much afraid of spilling the beans.. So much dependent on NT that her absence made him uncomfortable.. wouldn't he have spoken to NT d moment he was alone??.. But on the contrary.. He CUTS her call.. Which clearly showed his intentions for Geet.. 😕 😕

Now I m not opposing u Samana.. In fact I like this totally new view of seeing the reason for Dev's deed.. So I m just trying to understand.. Of course in the end.. He is one selfish jerk.. Who actually doesn't deserve to live.. After what he did.. 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Sia: There is no such thing as opposing in a discussion like this because we can really only give our views as we can never really know what another person, that too a fictional one, is thinking. 😆

To answer your question, I would say, had NT called when Dev was ignoring Geet after the car broke down, I think he might have picked up but she called after Geet had unconsciously charmed him with her innocence. At that point he was already immersed in the role of the simple guy who wooed Geet and didn't want any interruptions at that point. So what I am trying to say is that he tried to avoid his guilt or discomfort, whatever you want to call it, by convincing himself of the reality of his relationship with Geet at that moment. This is especially evident to me when he says, maybe this is what fate wanted. I mean, how does that make ANY sense?!

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that all these switches in Dev's character happen to a large extent on a subconscious level. In the immediate sense, as far as the decisions he makes go, I think they are mostly whatever he wants to do at that moment, with no thought for anyone or the implications. But I think the complexity lies underneath that make him waver from a set goal so often. To me, this is why he is always looking for a short cut. He has a tendency to get distracted unless he is firmly controlled. Even in Delhi, the plan was to confess his gunah to Maan and he got distracted by Meera and never managed to do it.

Does that make any more sense? 😕

And just to be clear, I am not considering the post-Maaneet wedding Dev in my analysis. That was an entirely different character altogether. 🤢

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