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Posted: 14 years ago
Jyo just read this from your post in the previous den
CON/SR is open for debate just like last time as in the morning Geet was sleeping alone and dreaming about previous night moments when a fully covered MSK puts rose petals on her and tells her about their new start where he always wants to see her smile since he does not know whether he will remember anything ever or not ..So somewhere they dont really talk about whether they went all the way last night or it was just few passionate moments they spent together 😛 ;I will say its a smart policy by the CVs to keep this debate open on whether they did it or not as it gives them the opportunity to show another CON in the near future in a different setting like mayb in their own bedroom this time
Yes, it is a smart policy by the CVs indeed because they managed to hoodwink you a second time over. Remember you were not convinced that they conned in the jungle and were hopeful of getting a bedroom con once they reached Delhi? Did we get that? No. Instead they conned us with one more tabela con. The morning after is more or less similar in both the scenes, with both leads fully clothed and the female lead waking up after the sun has risen high, glowing with memories of the previous night. So they have been very consistent in this. If at all they show us one more con it will be similar to this one.
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Opti:Well whatever is the case but u will hv to admit one thing that this monday tabela was 100 times better and hotter than the lantern tabela 😆..so mayb next time CON whether its in tabela or bedroom will b 200 times hotter than this 😆..my point is they hv always kept that door open for debate to better it the next time 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Samana one reason why I m pressing for RC is to get rid of MP only because see to get a fresh new writer like Swati pandey or Vincent back ,we need a complete makeover of the show because they wont come back in middle and continue from where this MP hv left the mess ...they wont b interested to continue the mess but will prefer to write a new story of Maaneet altogether because thats how the writers do ..

We've had several changes in writers during the current show. Each have brought in some new characters, like AA by Ved Raj and Amritsar circus by MP but the existing leads continued. So why should the old writers not want to return especially if they can revive some of the characters they indicated like Sam or Vicky? Why should the leads be killed off for that? In fact there is no guarantee that MP will not be gotten rid off if an RC track is brought in. If the PH and Channel are serious about increasing the trps of the show, they should get rid of him pronto and have either old writers or some new writers for the remaining 2 1/2 months of the show so as to improve its chances of continuance in SD.
See when new set of writers came for Amritsar track ,they wrapped up the old tracks of Dev and baby na because new writers wanted to start things in a new way with a new set up and all ...
Similarly if today Swati or Vincent is made to come back ,they will prefer writing a story in their own way rather than continuing with current phase of Maaneet ...
They should write the story their own way and who better than they who know Maaneet better? LEt the Amritsar circus be packed off like how AA were done.
As far as I know Swati or Vincent ,they wont b able to relate to this current MSK or Geet and so they will definitely demand for a new story ...so to get our old writers back a new story of Maaneet is needed
Once the Amritsar circus is off, the old Maaneet can be revived and viewers can immmediately connect with them because they have been waiting to get them back. An RC would mean a totally new set of Maaneet and their characterisations will not be the same. We may or may not like that. I have seen what Swati and Neeshi did in KYM. The preposterous ghost cum hypnosis track was under them. So there is no guarantee we will get a sensible story line in future. It is best to work with the current story line which still has a lot of unclosed loops which they had opened up in the first place. So they are the best people to close it.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Opti:Well whatever is the case but u will hv to admit one thing that this monday tabela was 100 times better and hotter than the lantern tabela 😆..so mayb next time CON whether its in tabela or bedroom will b 200 times hotter than this 😆..my point is they hv always kept that door open for debate to better it the next time 😳

I dont think they have kept any doors open. As to this one being better I wouldn't fully agree with you. Yes, it was longer and more symbolic but there was a better flow with the earlier one than this one. Moreover the difference is because the directors are different. You will still get a well adorned Maaneet both for the con night and the morning after. For me I am happy to see aesthetically done foreplay with suggestiveness of con. So it is fine by me.
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Jyoti: I see your point about sensible writers not wanting to pick up from the pits of hell, where MP has dragged the show. So I guess an RC would make sense on that level, but to be honest, I don't think I could stomach the idea of Maan and Geet dying and being reborn to get that fresh start. It feels so needlessly desperate. It would be one thing if we were guaranteed better writers, but would the kind of writers we want be willing to deal with a far-fetched track like RC in the first place?

As much as MP has butchered Maan and Geet I don't think it would be too hard to resurrect their essence. I have even seen it lately during the BR track, Teej, the file fiasco and the episode that followed it with the movie, and of course, the whole lorry-gunda-tabela mini-track that led up to Monday's sublime episode. The Maan and Geet we love are not hard to get back. All we need is a good story and a writer who is not afraid to deal with real issues and real drama.

The same way MP has neatly packed off AA, almost all the office staff and even Dadi 😭 a new writer could easily send these jokers off to United States of America/Amritsar and go for a fresh track with a new supporting cast. The fact that they are not doing this, despite all our dissatisfaction does not bode well for MP (male and female) ever leaving, as much as I hate to say it.

PS: I just realised the Amritsar track was so much better than this because kam se kam we got shirtless Maan at least once a week. We haven't seen the goods since then!

@Opti: I agree with you on the point that viewers will welcome back the old Maaneet with open arms if a sensible, plot driven track with ample drama is introduced. Like you said there are so many open ends left by the old writers. Who better than them to come and close them, perhaps a little differently than they had initially imagined, but I assume that is why they are called "creatives"? It may in fact be more difficult to start from scratch, with no guarantee that the new Maan and Geet will appeal to viewers as much as the old did. Well, there are a million things they could do if they are serious about increasing TRPs. There is no way they don't know how the current climate of the show is affecting viewership.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Errr I dont believe I m saying this but if CVs want parallel track then Arjun and Annie ko wapas la do and plsss devini-lucto-mama ko wapas bhej do 😆 because all said and done Annie was less irritating than Nano 🤔 ..at least she dint involve Maaneet in her mess but independently took on Arjun unlike this Nano 😡😡😡
Aaj me missing annie and arjun 😭😕...if u see Annie was much more classy and matured than this Nano in her ways of dealing with things and at least she looked like a Khurana sibling with class ..abhi these freeloaders in Khurana Mansion r all bloody classless cheap people turning the show into a circus 😡😡😡
Even a repalcement for Nikunj as Annie will work ya phir Nikunj ko hee le aaye😆 ...mayb ab tak she would hv improved in acting 🤔and also Arjun being related to NT will at least bring some drama and story element in the show which is lacking now
Nikunj good or bad had her own style of acting and dint try to copy DD at least 😡😡 ..also Arjun was one interesting character which had lots of scope in the story being NT's brother ...The actor was also good and in current scenario Arjun can b brought as Msk's business rival to get his revenge for sending NT to jail and mayb this time Arjun can ditch Annie and eye on Geet for his revenge 😈 ..just imagine kya dramatic track hoga with equal balance of main and parallel leads 😍
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Samana:But dont u think Maaneet hv already taken a rebirth with their characters being fully butchered already ..so from here on its almost impossible to get that old Maaneet back irrespective of whichever writer is brought back 😊
And few case study done by me on FB itself has proved that viewers always enjoy the pre-confession phase of any love story rather than the post-confession phase ..now tell me can that pre-confession phase be brought back in the Maaneet track at present ?..they r married ..they hv done the CON ..so all that fresh element in their relationship is already gone ...from here every show either takes a leap with kids and all or many go for RC track or season 2 or once again separation and all ...so its a saturation point for Maaneet and from here on a continuaton wont work ..but it has to b a fresh start whichever writers come ..and if a fresh start is made then automatically the writers change because so far thats the trend I hv seen in all soaps including Geet
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Errr I dont believe I m saying this but if CVs want parallel track then Arjun and Annie ko wapas la do and plsss devini-lucto-mama ko wapas bhej do 😆 because all said and done Annie was less irritating than Nano 🤔 ..at least she dint involve Maaneet in her mess but independently took on Arjun unlike this Nano 😡😡😡

Aaj me missing annie and arjun 😭😕...if u see Annie was much more classy and matured than this Nano in her ways of dealing with things and at least she looked like a Khurana sibling with class ..abhi these freeloaders in Khurana Mansion r all bloody classless cheap people turning the show into a circus 😡😡😡
Even a repalcement for Nikunj as Annie will work ya phir Nikunj ko hee le aaye😆 ...mayb ab tak she would hv improved in acting 🤔and also Arjun being related to NT will at least bring some drama and story element in the show which is lacking now
Nikunj good or bad had her own style of acting and dint try to copy DD at least 😡😡 ..also Arjun was one interesting character which had lots of scope in the story being NT's brother ...The actor was also good and in current scenario Arjun can b brought as Msk's business rival to get his revenge for sending NT to jail and mayb this time Arjun can ditch Annie and eye on Geet for his revenge 😈 ..just imagine kya dramatic track hoga with equal balance of main and parallel leads 😍

If AA has to be brought back then we have to get Ved Raj and not Swati because he was the one who introduced them. I still feel it is better to revive two characters who were only there in name, ie. Sam and Vicky. Any writer can incorporate them in their plot because they have not been physically introduced yet and their characterisations are still to be etched out. New actors can also be roped in because no one knows how these characters looked like.
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Opti:Me only thinking about possible options to get current circus out whether its AA or anybody ...😆
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Samana:But dont u think Maaneet hv already taken a rebirth with their characters being fully butchered already ..so from here on its almost impossible to get that old Maaneet back irrespective of whichever writer is brought back 😊

And few case study done by me on FB itself has proved that viewers always enjoy the pre-confession phase of any love story rather than the post-confession phase ..now tell me can that pre-confession phase be brought back in the Maaneet track at present ?..they r married ..they hv done the CON ..so all that fresh element in their relationship is already gone ...from here every show either takes a leap with kids and all or many go for RC track or season 2 or once again separation and all ...so its a saturation point for Maaneet and from here on a continuaton wont work ..but it has to b a fresh start whichever writers come ..and if a fresh start is made then automatically the writers change because so far thats the trend I hv seen in all soaps including Geet

Jyo, there is still 2 1/2 months to go before the revamp. If they continue the way they are going, there is no way the show is going to register any marked improvement in trps and SD will only have a good excuse to axe it. So the need of the hour is to revive the show with a good engrossing story line and that can happen only if MP leaves. He cannot be left to hang on till Dec. If he does he is sure to bury the show beofre he leaves. So no use talking of what can happen after Dec when the uncertainty of the show still looms large. We need the old writers now more than ever. As to a fresh start, then everything should be fresh in SD including the PH because the current PH is clearly not interested in this show. If they are dragged into continuing it post revamp I'm sure it will be an awful show. Now would SD want to experiment with a new PH for an old show when they themselves are still new? That is a pertinent question. As I see it we are damned either way.

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